Hello, I trying to perform 100% percent of my work without using any MS tools or products. I am successful with the exception of being able to open/save MS apps. I currently use SuSE 7.3 + KOffice. Personally, I like KOffice, but the file filters are not the best, at least in my experience. I have not used StarOffice in sometime -- is this a better option? I have tried OpenOffice beta -- however, the installer locked two of my SuSE boxes, so this does not seem like a good choice for office use. Thanks, Dominic --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
I also had problems with OO 641C locking up machine, but it turns out it was caused by the video drivers. Afterupdating the video drivers and kernel in 7.3, it worked. Also I believe 641D did not have this problem. Have you tried 641D? Also version 1.0 is supposed to be released tomorrow. Art On Monday 29 April 2002 11:00, Dominic Maraglia wrote:
Hello,
I trying to perform 100% percent of my work without using any MS tools or products. I am successful with the exception of being able to open/save MS apps.
I currently use SuSE 7.3 + KOffice. Personally, I like KOffice, but the file filters are not the best, at least in my experience.
I have not used StarOffice in sometime -- is this a better option?
I have tried OpenOffice beta -- however, the installer locked two of my SuSE boxes, so this does not seem like a good choice for office use.
Thanks, Dominic --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:14:43PM -0700, Art Fore wrote:
I also had problems with OO 641C locking up machine, but it turns out it was caused by the video drivers. Afterupdating the video drivers and kernel in 7.3, it worked. Also I believe 641D did not have this problem. Have you tried 641D? Also version 1.0 is supposed to be released tomorrow.
I've been using Star Office 5.2 until Open Office 1.0 is released. While Star Office 5.2 is not pretty, it does get the job done. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
For me, a major hindrance for importing files from _any_ other text processor into SO 5.2 is that I have just a small handful of fonts to choose from - not enough to replace the original fonts in many cases. And I have not been very successful in hacking new fonts into SO 5.2. I wonder, how is that with SO 6, OO or Hancom? Do they have a "font installer" or something? SH
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:22, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
For me, a major hindrance for importing files from _any_ other text processor into SO 5.2 is that I have just a small handful of fonts to choose from - not enough to replace the original fonts in many cases. And I have not been very successful in hacking new fonts into SO 5.2.
I wonder, how is that with SO 6, OO or Hancom? Do they have a "font installer" or something?
SH
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just start with installing the msfonts with fetchmsttfonts m vr gr Frederik Vos www.vosberg.be
At 02:29 PM 4/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:
just start with installing the msfonts with fetchmsttfonts
Sorry, could you elaborate on that a bit? I have TT fonts running under KDE but all fonts look like excrement within SO. fetchmsttfonts from who? where? how? thanks in advance as this is something that really bothers me in SO.
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:34, Nick Selby wrote:
At 02:29 PM 4/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:
just start with installing the msfonts with fetchmsttfonts
Sorry, could you elaborate on that a bit? I have TT fonts running under KDE but all fonts look like excrement within SO. fetchmsttfonts from who? where? how?
thanks in advance as this is something that really bothers me in SO.
fetchmsttfonts is a suse script to download ms fonts like arial and verdana from a microsoft server .. A lot of msword docs are formatted with that fonts. btw the fonts looks much better in OpenOffice. regards Frederik Vos www.vosberg.be
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:34, Nick Selby wrote:
At 02:29 PM 4/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:
just start with installing the msfonts with fetchmsttfonts
Sorry, could you elaborate on that a bit? I have TT fonts running under KDE but all fonts look like excrement within SO. fetchmsttfonts from who? where? how?
thanks in advance as this is something that really bothers me in SO.
fetchmsttfonts is a suse script to download ms fonts like arial and verdana from a microsoft server .. A lot of msword docs are formatted with that fonts. btw the fonts looks much better in OpenOffice. regards Frederik Vos www.vosberg.be
At 02:42 PM 4/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:34, Nick Selby wrote:
At 02:29 PM 4/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:
just start with installing the msfonts with fetchmsttfonts
Sorry, could you elaborate on that a bit? I have TT fonts running under KDE but all fonts look like excrement within SO. fetchmsttfonts from who? where? how?
thanks in advance as this is something that really bothers me in SO.
fetchmsttfonts is a suse script to download ms fonts like arial and verdana from a microsoft server .. A lot of msword docs are formatted with that fonts. btw the fonts looks much better in OpenOffice.
Right. I have already used fetchmsttfonts, and have those installed. Now MOST programs under KDE look really, really nice. But Star Office doesn't see them. When the guy said he was trying to hack SO to see them , and someone suggested fetchmsttfonts, I thought that maybe that would fix the problem in SO. But you say OO is better - does 8.0 come with OO? It only lists SO56.2, which I already have, on the box. Thanks in advance, nick
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At 02:42 PM 4/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:34, Nick Selby wrote:
At 02:29 PM 4/30/2002 +0200, you wrote:
just start with installing the msfonts with fetchmsttfonts
[snip] Nick, your post wasn't clear. What is you want to know how to do....add truetype fonts so SO or OO and all other apps. can use them? Fred - -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm@cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org - --- SuSE Linux v8.0 Pro--- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjzOs28ACgkQB9vk4ichYXewcACcDPlTKboBNz07EfTbhjWhsZly GPkAnjrI7gNIvgBaBZ4HZB2HSt7Qy464 =aFIN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
At 11:08 AM 4/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Nick, your post wasn't clear. What is you want to know how to do....add truetype fonts so SO or OO and all other apps. can use them?
Sorry for the confusion. I would like to add true type fonts to StarOffice 5.2 to allow it to display the same fonts that most people use in the Word and PowerPoint documents they send me. I HAVE got TT fonts installed under KDE and they work for a variety of apps under that including konqueror and text editors. But not under SO. Thanks.
* Nick Selby; <php@nickselby.com> on 30 Apr, 2002 wrote:
At 11:08 AM 4/30/2002 -0400, you wrote: Sorry for the confusion. I would like to add true type fonts to StarOffice 5.2 to allow it to display the same fonts that most people use in the Word and PowerPoint documents they send me. I HAVE got TT fonts installed under KDE and they work for a variety of apps under that including konqueror and text editors. But not under SO.
Well the easiest way is to use Kfontinst program to generate the AFM fonts that is needed by Staroffice 5.2 which will place the generated AFM font definitions under /opt/office52/share/xp3/fontmetrics/afm and also modify the /opt/office52/share/xp3/psstd.fonts so the printer will be able to use these fonts. I would do a backup of these directories and then use Kfontinst for the font conversion. HTH -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 02:22:52PM +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
For me, a major hindrance for importing files from _any_ other text processor into SO 5.2 is that I have just a small handful of fonts to choose from - not enough to replace the original fonts in many cases. And I have not been very successful in hacking new fonts into SO 5.2.
I wonder, how is that with SO 6, OO or Hancom? Do they have a "font installer" or something?
Openoffice 641D sees my installed system fonts and brings a few of its own to the party. I _think_ the commercial release StarOffice 6 will include additional fonts, but I'm not sure. Best Regards, Keith -- LPIC-2, MCSE, N+ Got spam? Get spastic http://spastic.sourceforge.net
Keith Winston wrote:
I myself wrote:
I wonder, how is that with SO 6, OO or Hancom? Do they have a "font installer" or something?
Openoffice 641D sees my installed system fonts and brings a few of its own to the party. I _think_ the commercial release StarOffice 6 will include additional fonts, but I'm not sure.
Surprised to hear that the system fonts are seen. Very interesting! Thanks for this information. Regards, Sjoerd
* Sjoerd Hiemstra; <shiems@wish.nl> on 30 Apr, 2002 wrote:
For me, a major hindrance for importing files from _any_ other text processor into SO 5.2 is that I have just a small handful of fonts to choose from - not enough to replace the original fonts in many cases. And I have not been very successful in hacking new fonts into SO 5.2.
There is an article in Linux Intern magazine's May-July edition which describes trutype writing and printing under Star office 5.2 page 112 -- Togan Muftuoglu Unofficial SuSE FAQ Maintainer http://dinamizm.ath.cx
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:00:25 -0700 "Dominic Maraglia" <dominic.maraglia@esd112.org> scribbled intuitively:
Hello,
I trying to perform 100% percent of my work without using any MS tools or
products. I am successful with the exception of being able to open/save MS apps.
I currently use SuSE 7.3 + KOffice. Personally, I like KOffice, but the file filters are not the best, at least in my experience.
I have not used StarOffice in sometime -- is this a better option? ==============================================
If your primary criteria is the ability to utilize working filters to import from, and export to, M$Office, yes, IMHO Mike -- "A person's true wealth is the good he or she does in the world." -- Mohammed
Dominic Maraglia wrote:
Hello,
I trying to perform 100% percent of my work without using any MS tools or products. I am successful with the exception of being able to open/save MS apps.
I currently use SuSE 7.3 + KOffice. Personally, I like KOffice, but the file filters are not the best, at least in my experience.
I have not used StarOffice in sometime -- is this a better option?
HancomOffice2 is nicer than OpenOffice, bot costs ~$50.00
HancomOffice2 is nicer than OpenOffice, bot costs ~$50.00
The cost is not the worst part. The worst is that I had great hopes it could replace SO-5.2, but my hopes were only surpassed by my disappointment. IF your needs are simple, HO will do the job. IF you need to deal with customers who, in 9 times out of 10, will come with .xls or .doc documents, don't bother. Yes, HO can _read_ an Excel spreadsheet, but won't keep the columns witdth, among other things. Worse yet, if, after you've done you work, you send it back as an .xls document... forget it. One simple test: I have a spreadsheet in which at one point there is the function to enter the current date in the format "30 April". I couldn't do it with HO, because it insists on inserting "30 April 2002". In Word, I did one try only. I imported my stationery that I had created in MS Word. Very simple logo in two colors was completely trashed by HO, to the point of no salvation. In contrast, SO was unable to match the script font I had in MS Word and substituted by an approximation; not as neat, but at least readable and recognizable. In another mail, Sjoerd Hiemstra asks, "I wonder, how is that with ... Hancom? Do they have a "font installer" or something?" The plain answer is "yes." The full answer is: my 148 IQ is not enough to master how to use it. Anyone wants to buy a very lightly used HO, still in pristine state? Regards, gr, in /usually/ sunny, balmy Florida's Suncoast. Didnut: n. A stale kind of pastry.
participants (11)
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Art Fore -
Dominic Maraglia -
Fred A. Miller -
Frederik Vos -
gilson redrick -
Jay C Vollmer -
Keith Winston -
Michael Scottaline -
Nick Selby -
Sjoerd Hiemstra -
Togan Muftuoglu