On Oct 23, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:

Hi Roger,

2008/10/23 Roger Oberholtzer :

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On Oct 23, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:

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Hi,

Have just got a system back after a SATA connection snapped off the M/board. Unfortunately the m/board could not be salvaged and was replaced with a board with an Intel core 2 Dui processor. The motherboard chipset is: Intel 945GC + 1CH7 and its model is the 945GCT-M2/13333 V1.0A. Having a look on the manufacturers website for the board

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=32&DetailID=827&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=1&LanID=0 it is noticed that the board does not have a printer LPT port, as I noted when I tried to connect the parallel cable.

In a similar position, I decided to try a USB to parallel cable. It worked out of the box. Just connect the printer to a USB port with this cable and SUSE did the rest. Perhaps I was lucky and just happened to get a cable that worked. But I think there are not so many chipsets for this. So I bet many, if not all, will work.

Tnx for the quick reply. What is the name/model of the USB-Parallel device as maybe I can get one in Douth Africa?

That reply won't be as quick. I bought it at a local gadget store. They sell rather generic hardware usually made in China, labelled with the name of the store, and typically little else. I will try to get back to you tomorrow. Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 And remember: It is RSofT and there is always something under construction. It is like talking about large city with all constructions finished. Not impossible, but very unlikely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Oct 23, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:

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it is noticed that the board does not have a printer LPT port, as I noted when I tried to connect the parallel cable.

In a similar position, I decided to try a USB to parallel cable. It worked out of the box. Just connect the printer to a USB port with this cable and SUSE did the rest.

I just did the same. I had no issues at all. Cost $12.00 US. John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 08:18 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:

Hello,

On Oct 23 20:26 Roger Oberholtzer wrote (shortened):

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... I decided to try a USB to parallel cable. It worked out of the box. Just connect the printer to a USB port with this cable and SUSE did the rest. Perhaps I was lucky and just happened to get a cable that worked. But I think there are not so many chipsets for this. So I bet many, if not all, will work.

Which sum would you like to bet on "all work out of the box"? Before you risk too much of your money, have a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264219#c1 But a small amount of your money as a donation to an open source project you like is probably welcome.

Well, when I go to Vegas, I really should just deposit all my money at the door and get it over with. I was hoping the odds here were better. I'm an optimist. Except when I'm not... I see the report is for SUSE 10.2. It worked for me with 10.3. So, maybe it was fixed? I cannot say anything about 11.0. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 And remember: It is RSofT and there is always something under construction. It is like talking about large city with all constructions finished. Not impossible, but very unlikely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 14:06 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:

Hello,

On Oct 24 12:17 Roger Oberholtzer wrote (shortened):

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On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 08:18 +0200, Johannes Meixner wrote:

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On Oct 23 20:26 Roger Oberholtzer wrote (shortened):

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... I decided to try a USB to parallel cable. ... ... have a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264219#c1 ... I see the report is for SUSE 10.2. It worked for me with 10.3. So, maybe it was fixed? I cannot say anything about 11.0.

How should CUPS (or whatever software on the computer) be fixed when the root cause of the problem in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264219 is that the USB to parallel cable there did not report the connected printer as a USB printer?

I did not get that from the description. I read is as though the USB level had changed the name of the device and CUPS did not recognize these names. Perhaps the problem was not the cable, but the driver for the cable? A newer kernel could have sorted the issue. I do not know. All I know was I was pleasantly surprised that the cable 'just worked'. I bought it for use with my daughter's Windows laptop (I confess...). I just hooked it up to my Linux Laptop to see what would happen. With no more effort on my part, I was printing. Really. It is taking all the mystique out of Linux. My friends are less impressed with me these days. Damn these smart Linux distros!

If the cable reports it as a USB printer, the software on the computer where the stuff is connected to via USB will detect is as USB printer and then everything can work out of the box.

If the cable is dumb, how could any software on the computer detect what there is connected at the other end of the cable?

So you mean that a USB<->Centronics cable does not tell it is such a cable? G'd forbid:) That is what the garbage can was designed for.

In this case the workaround described in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264219#c1 should usually help but I guess there are totally broken USB to parallel cables out there where only a special driver software only for whatever special operating system would make such totally broken USB to parallel cables work.

Yep. Linux does prefer hardware that does what it says on the label. Such an unreasonable request, no? -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 And remember: It is RSofT and there is always something under construction. It is like talking about large city with all constructions finished. Not impossible, but very unlikely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Pinnacle Micro have a Sunix Parallel PCI Card - Single, Sun1888 at dealer price of R88 excl and Sunix UTP1025B Single USB to 1x Parallel Cable Converter at dealer price of R102, their number is +27 21 550 0100 Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org