i guess the more windoze-like our linucses become, the more windoze-like they behave! Here is what i consider a pretty good example: First make sure everything is backed up and all apps are closed. Start your realplayer - i use it to hear news from the old country-, hook up to a station or something. then, for a change, forget about work and world, and click up a game of Klondike solitaire. then count the seconds or the minutes until the hard lockup. in my a7s333 - 1gb ram - ati rage pro128 it happens every time. sometimes in 10 seconds, sometimes in 10 minutes. suse 8.2 or 9.0 it reminds me of the old saying : Be careful what you wish, you might get it... it is a silly combination of apps and it is not important to me that this gets fixed, however it is amazing to me that something as simple as klondike can bring down a linux setup with 6-7 months uptime on the first try and then every single time after that... d.
Hi, something similar happens to my system (SuSE 9.0): it freezes from time to time even while idle, so the only possible solution is to press the "Reset"-button... it's quite annoying for a Linux system using an *stable* release, I must say... Greetings, Martin
-----Mensaje original----- De: plain [mailto:kanenas@hawaii.rr.com] Enviado el: miercoles, 14 de enero de 2004 12:01 Para: suse-linux-e@suse.com Asunto: [SLE] predictable crashes
i guess the more windoze-like our linucses become, the more windoze-like they behave! Here is what i consider a pretty good example: First make sure everything is backed up and all apps are closed. Start your realplayer - i use it to hear news from the old country-, hook up to a station or something. then, for a change, forget about work and world, and click up a game of Klondike solitaire. then count the seconds or the minutes until the hard lockup. in my a7s333 - 1gb ram - ati rage pro128 it happens every time. sometimes in 10 seconds, sometimes in 10 minutes. suse 8.2 or 9.0 it reminds me of the old saying : Be careful what you wish, you might get it... it is a silly combination of apps and it is not important to me that this gets fixed, however it is amazing to me that something as simple as klondike can bring down a linux setup with 6-7 months uptime on the first try and then every single time after that... d.
Martin Mielke wrote:
Hi,
something similar happens to my system (SuSE 9.0): it freezes from time to time even while idle, so the only possible solution is to press the "Reset"-button... it's quite annoying for a Linux system using an *stable* release, I must say...
Greetings, Martin
I've only had that problem with the early 2.6.0-pre kernels and some of the 2.4.2x kernels from ftp.kernel.org, it seemed APM was spinning down the hard drive, but not waking it up again. I had to use the boot option apm=off. It's worth trying either that option, acpi=off or even both together to see if the problem is in that area. When this started happening regularly, I even thought I had motherboard and PCI card/processor/memory problems. Occasionally the odd hardware/software gremlin pays us a visit, but for the number of years I've been running Linux with bleeding edge kernels and latest greatest software packages and libraries, I've never experience a day when I couldn't get my work done using Linux, any problems are usually a rescue CD boot away from a fix - my stupidity/mistake/04:30_got_to_get_this_up_before_I_go_to_bed quite often being the cause of the trouble. Regards Sid.
-----Mensaje original----- De: plain [mailto:kanenas@hawaii.rr.com] Enviado el: miercoles, 14 de enero de 2004 12:01 Para: suse-linux-e@suse.com Asunto: [SLE] predictable crashes
i guess the more windoze-like our linucses become, the more windoze-like they behave! Here is what i consider a pretty good example: First make sure everything is backed up and all apps are closed. Start your realplayer - i use it to hear news from the old country-, hook up to a station or something. then, for a change, forget about work and world, and click up a game of Klondike solitaire. then count the seconds or the minutes until the hard lockup. in my a7s333 - 1gb ram - ati rage pro128 it happens every time. sometimes in 10 seconds, sometimes in 10 minutes. suse 8.2 or 9.0 it reminds me of the old saying : Be careful what you wish, you might get it... it is a silly combination of apps and it is not important to me that this gets fixed, however it is amazing to me that something as simple as klondike can bring down a linux setup with 6-7 months uptime on the first try and then every single time after that... d.
-- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 06:01 am, plain wrote:
i guess the more windoze-like our linucses become, the more windoze-like they behave! Here is what i consider a pretty good example: First make sure everything is backed up and all apps are closed. Start your realplayer - i use it to hear news from the old country-, hook up to a station or something. then, for a change, forget about work and world, and click up a game of Klondike solitaire. then count the seconds or the minutes until the hard lockup. in my a7s333 - 1gb ram - ati rage pro128 it happens every time. sometimes in 10 seconds, sometimes in 10 minutes. suse 8.2 or 9.0 it reminds me of the old saying : Be careful what you wish, you might get it... it is a silly combination of apps and it is not important to me that this gets fixed, however it is amazing to me that something as simple as klondike can bring down a linux setup with 6-7 months uptime on the first try and then every single time after that... d. ================
A couple of things jump out at me on your problems. First of all you have a motherboard with the 333 chipset. Buggy! I'm going to guess this is an ASUS? Second thing, 1 gb of ram and a big area for a small defect. Have you tested? Last thing, is Realplayer and are you listening to streaming radio? Use xmms and see if you still have the same problem. Just a few thoughts, good luck. Lee -- --- KMail v1.5.94 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
On Thursday 15 January 2004 14:25, BandiPat wrote:
On Wednesday 14 January 2004 06:01 am, plain wrote:
i guess the more windoze-like our linucses become, the more windoze-like they behave! Here is what i consider a pretty good example: First make sure everything is backed up and all apps are closed. Start your realplayer - i use it to hear news from the old country-, hook up to a station or something. then, for a change, forget about work and world, and click up a game of Klondike solitaire. then count the seconds or the minutes until the hard lockup. in my a7s333 - 1gb ram - ati rage pro128 it happens every time. sometimes in 10 seconds, sometimes in 10 minutes. suse 8.2 or 9.0 it reminds me of the old saying : Be careful what you wish, you might get it... it is a silly combination of apps and it is not important to me that this gets fixed, however it is amazing to me that something as simple as klondike can bring down a linux setup with 6-7 months uptime on the first try and then every single time after that... d.
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A couple of things jump out at me on your problems. First of all you have a motherboard with the 333 chipset. Buggy! I'm going to guess
Yes, you are correct, it's an ASUS a7s33. Definitely not the cream of the crop. BUT, it's twin is rock solid in windoze xp in the same house, same network, same cable modem. we even changed mobo's and components between the two computers, all the way up to full exchange of os's. the board seems to be buggy for linucs but not for mister bill.
this is an ASUS? Second thing, 1 gb of ram and a big area for a small defect. Have you tested?
memtest has been run a number of times, for many iterations. Last thing, is Realplayer and are you
listening to streaming radio? have not played a lot with linucs mm programs. can xmms support .ra /.ram streaming audio & video? i guess i will just have to test that!
Use xmms and see if you still have the
same problem.
Just a few thoughts, good luck.
Thanks for the suggestions. Again, please note that the comments were more general than the specific issues. I could not care less if i can't play klondike (But i do like the streaming audio). But it seems that the general Linux development focus has shifted to version-mania and marketeering instead of substance and stability. If that impression is correct, it is not good for linux. Dimitris
Lee -- --- KMail v1.5.94 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
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