[opensuse] Acer AspireOne Vs Asus EeePc 901 advice
Hi all, I want to buy a UML and, I'm currently pending my decision on Acer AspireOne and Asus EeePc 901. Here are the pros and cons on each one. Acer AspireOne Pros: - I already installed openSUSE 11.0 on this machine. Works 100% all devices. - Keyboard a little bit larger. May prove better for continuous typing. - Price. Acer AspireOne Cons: - No Bluetooth. - 8GB storage is way slow. 3-4 MB/s write speed. - Wireless is not '802.11g'. - "Only" up to 3 hours of battery life. - Access to hardware cannot be made without voiding warranty. Asus EeePc 901 pros: - Up to 8 hours battery life. - Bluetooth. - 4GB internal storage is fast ( don't know exactly how much ) witch can hold root file system. 16GB extra storage is also slow. - Access to hardware can be made without voiding warranty. - Wireless '802.11g' - 20GB total storage Asus EeePc 901 cons: - Extra cost of €60,00 - Smaller keyboard. - Do not know if anyone successfully installed openSUSE 11.0 ( or other openSUSE ) on one of these... Bottom line: I'm inclined to go for the Asus despite of it's €60,00 increased cost but, I would like to know if anyone has installed it on openSUSE. Has anyone on this list has any experience on this ? If anyone has any option that may contradict any my claim please, do state your option. Thanks, Rui Santos -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/ Veni, vidi, Linux! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 8/18/08, Rui Santos
Hi all,
I want to buy a UML and, I'm currently pending my decision on Acer AspireOne and Asus EeePc 901. Here are the pros and cons on each one.
Acer AspireOne Pros: - I already installed openSUSE 11.0 on this machine. Works 100% all devices. - Keyboard a little bit larger. May prove better for continuous typing. - Price.
Acer AspireOne Cons: - No Bluetooth. - 8GB storage is way slow. 3-4 MB/s write speed. - Wireless is not '802.11g'. - "Only" up to 3 hours of battery life. - Access to hardware cannot be made without voiding warranty.
Asus EeePc 901 pros: - Up to 8 hours battery life. - Bluetooth. - 4GB internal storage is fast ( don't know exactly how much ) witch can hold root file system. 16GB extra storage is also slow. - Access to hardware can be made without voiding warranty. - Wireless '802.11g' - 20GB total storage
Asus EeePc 901 cons: - Extra cost of €60,00 - Smaller keyboard. - Do not know if anyone successfully installed openSUSE 11.0 ( or other openSUSE ) on one of these...
Bottom line: I'm inclined to go for the Asus despite of it's €60,00 increased cost but, I would like to know if anyone has installed it on openSUSE. Has anyone on this list has any experience on this ? If anyone has any option that may contradict any my claim please, do state your option.
Thanks, Rui Santos
Hi I am currently installing 11.0 on a 701 8GB (takes a darn long time because I haven't got much continous time) see the thread Suse on an Eeepc. The speed on the SSD seems to be 11 MB (can do a dd test tonight if you wish). I do not think they would insert a SLOWER ssd in the 901. The 4GB harddisk seems small to me. I have trouble fitting everything in 8GB and I use a 16GB usb for music and some documents. 4GB is the minimum I would recommend for the / partition. The /home could be fitted on a SDHC disk, the 901 seems to support them (701 doesn't. It is insane but it doesn't) They are relatively cheap up to 8GB, even class 6 (Sandisk Extreme even provides a free cardreader, so you can backup your /home in any case) just do not boot without the card in it if you use it for /home. Sandisk Extreme II claims to have 20MB read and 20MB write, and costs €54 (8GB) in my favorite shop, a class 2 costs about half. The biggest problem I have to tackle is the Atheros Networking Cards. They should be fixable with the Madwifi drivers, but there are a lot of problems to tackle. If I haven't solved it I will try to use the ndiswrapper technique to get it working (not sure yet if this is difficult) I love my EeePC, just didn't like the version of Xandros on it. Ideal to start with but they tried to kick out all configurability, and messing with these things is something I love (unless my data gets in danger). Neil -- There are two kinds of people: 1. People who start their arrays with 1. 1. People who start their arrays with 0. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature, please! ** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thanks for your reply Neil, Some notes and questions are inline. Neil wrote:
Hi
I am currently installing 11.0 on a 701 8GB (takes a darn long time because I haven't got much continous time) see the thread Suse on an Eeepc.
That tread is about the 701 model, and so are the instructions on installing suse on eeepc on suse wiki. The 901 is almost ( if not all ), from what I've read, different hardware. Have you seen any 901 installation ?
The speed on the SSD seems to be 11 MB (can do a dd test tonight if you wish). I do not think they would insert a SLOWER ssd in the 901.
The 4GB harddisk seems small to me. I have trouble fitting everything in 8GB and I use a 16GB usb for music and some documents. 4GB is the minimum I would recommend for the / partition.
I do not know about your 701 model but, in 901 I believe that are now two SSD's, one with fast 4GB and another one, slower, with 16GB (linux version). From the reviews I've read, the primary 4GB is usually mentioned as FAST.
The /home could be fitted on a SDHC disk, the 901 seems to support them (701 doesn't. It is insane but it doesn't) They are relatively cheap up to 8GB, even class 6 (Sandisk Extreme even provides a free cardreader, so you can backup your /home in any case) just do not boot without the card in it if you use it for /home. Sandisk Extreme II claims to have 20MB read and 20MB write, and costs €54 (8GB) in my favorite shop, a class 2 costs about half.
The biggest problem I have to tackle is the Atheros Networking Cards. They should be fixable with the Madwifi drivers, but there are a lot of problems to tackle. If I haven't solved it I will try to use the ndiswrapper technique to get it working (not sure yet if this is difficult)
Still on the 701, right ?
I love my EeePC, just didn't like the version of Xandros on it. Ideal to start with but they tried to kick out all configurability, and messing with these things is something I love (unless my data gets in danger).
Neil
Once again, thank your for you input on the subject, Rui -- Rui Santos http://www.ruisantos.com/ Veni, vidi, Linux! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Rui Santos
Thanks for your reply Neil,
Some notes and questions are inline.
Neil wrote:
Hi
I am currently installing 11.0 on a 701 8GB (takes a darn long time because I haven't got much continous time) see the thread Suse on an Eeepc.
That tread is about the 701 model, and so are the instructions on installing suse on eeepc on suse wiki. The 901 is almost ( if not all ), from what I've read, different hardware. Have you seen any 901 installation ?
The speed on the SSD seems to be 11 MB (can do a dd test tonight if you wish). I do not think they would insert a SLOWER ssd in the 901.
The 4GB harddisk seems small to me. I have trouble fitting everything in 8GB and I use a 16GB usb for music and some documents. 4GB is the minimum I would recommend for the / partition.
I do not know about your 701 model but, in 901 I believe that are now two SSD's, one with fast 4GB and another one, slower, with 16GB (linux version). From the reviews I've read, the primary 4GB is usually mentioned as FAST.
The /home could be fitted on a SDHC disk, the 901 seems to support them (701 doesn't. It is insane but it doesn't) They are relatively cheap up to 8GB, even class 6 (Sandisk Extreme even provides a free cardreader, so you can backup your /home in any case) just do not boot without the card in it if you use it for /home. Sandisk Extreme II claims to have 20MB read and 20MB write, and costs €54 (8GB) in my favorite shop, a class 2 costs about half.
The biggest problem I have to tackle is the Atheros Networking Cards. They should be fixable with the Madwifi drivers, but there are a lot of problems to tackle. If I haven't solved it I will try to use the ndiswrapper technique to get it working (not sure yet if this is difficult)
Still on the 701, right ?
Yes, I forgot to paste a part when repairing a backup of the mail (lost my connection accidenttally and IE crashed) It said something like: I do not know whether the same Atheros device is in the 901.
I love my EeePC, just didn't like the version of Xandros on it. Ideal to start with but they tried to kick out all configurability, and messing with these things is something I love (unless my data gets in danger).
Neil
Once again, thank your for you input on the subject, Rui
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yeah I only have the 701, but I thought you might find something usefull. The 901 seems quite interresting, but not buying a PC for 5 years and then 2 laptops in 1 year seems a bit overkill :D you're welcome. I am a big fan of good decisons, I have already seen to many that were not thought thrue.... Neil -- There are two kinds of people: 1. People who start their arrays with 1. 1. People who start their arrays with 0. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature, please! ** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 18 August 2008, Rui Santos wrote:
Bottom line: I'm inclined to go for the Asus despite of it's €60,00 increased cost but, I would like to know if anyone has installed it on openSUSE. Has anyone on this list has any experience on this ? If anyone has any option that may contradict any my claim please, do state your option.
Hi, Quick note to say I have just installed openSuse on my new 901 and it appears to be working OK (I haven't tested absolutly everything yet, but nothings complaining hardware wise). I'll post some detailed notes later. What swung me to the 901 was build quality and battery life, I think it really hits the sweet spot. For some reason even the keyboard feels bigger and easier to type on, perhaps because of the increased wrist-rest space? John. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
John Layt wrote:
Hi,
Hi John,
Quick note to say I have just installed openSuse on my new 901 and it appears to be working OK (I haven't tested absolutly everything yet, but nothings complaining hardware wise). I'll post some detailed notes later.
Thanks for you time. Please do... :)
What swung me to the 901 was build quality and battery life, I think it really hits the sweet spot. For some reason even the keyboard feels bigger and easier to type on, perhaps because of the increased wrist-rest space?
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Rui Santos
Hi all,
I want to buy a UML and, I'm currently pending my decision on Acer AspireOne and Asus EeePc 901. Here are the pros and cons on each one.
Acer AspireOne Pros: - I already installed openSUSE 11.0 on this machine. Works 100% all devices. - Keyboard a little bit larger. May prove better for continuous typing. - Price.
Acer AspireOne Cons: - No Bluetooth. - 8GB storage is way slow. 3-4 MB/s write speed. - Wireless is not '802.11g'. - "Only" up to 3 hours of battery life. - Access to hardware cannot be made without voiding warranty.
Asus EeePc 901 pros: - Up to 8 hours battery life. - Bluetooth. - 4GB internal storage is fast ( don't know exactly how much ) witch can hold root file system. 16GB extra storage is also slow. - Access to hardware can be made without voiding warranty. - Wireless '802.11g' - 20GB total storage
Asus EeePc 901 cons: - Extra cost of €60,00 - Smaller keyboard. - Do not know if anyone successfully installed openSUSE 11.0 ( or other openSUSE ) on one of these... Bottom line: I'm inclined to go for the Asus despite of it's €60,00 increased cost but, I would like to know if anyone has installed it on openSUSE. Has anyone on this list has any experience on this ? If anyone has any option that may contradict any my claim please, do state your option.
Thanks, Rui Santos
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Hi, Have you consider the msi wind U100X ? I was surprised that no one talk about it on the mailing lists since it is ship with SuSE SLES preinstalled :-) OpenSuSE 11 works 100% (from what I have read on Google) about the same price as the eeePC 901 I am thinking of buying one... SPECs: Intel ATOM 80 Gb hard drive (no SSD) 10.2" screen size Big keyboard Smaller than the Aspire 1.2 kg bluetooth Wifi b/g 3 USB The only eck, is the 3 cell battery which should give 2h30 - 3h00 autonomy A model ship with a 6 cell battery should arrive soon FYI Cheers Matthias ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
matthias.titeux@inserm.fr wrote:
Rui Santos
a écrit : Hi all,
I want to buy a UML and, I'm currently pending my decision on Acer AspireOne and Asus EeePc 901. Here are the pros and cons on each one.
Acer AspireOne Pros: - I already installed openSUSE 11.0 on this machine. Works 100% all devices. - Keyboard a little bit larger. May prove better for continuous typing. - Price.
Acer AspireOne Cons: - No Bluetooth. - 8GB storage is way slow. 3-4 MB/s write speed. - Wireless is not '802.11g'. - "Only" up to 3 hours of battery life. - Access to hardware cannot be made without voiding warranty.
Asus EeePc 901 pros: - Up to 8 hours battery life. - Bluetooth. - 4GB internal storage is fast ( don't know exactly how much ) witch can hold root file system. 16GB extra storage is also slow. - Access to hardware can be made without voiding warranty. - Wireless '802.11g' - 20GB total storage
Asus EeePc 901 cons: - Extra cost of €60,00 - Smaller keyboard. - Do not know if anyone successfully installed openSUSE 11.0 ( or other openSUSE ) on one of these... Bottom line: I'm inclined to go for the Asus despite of it's €60,00 increased cost but, I would like to know if anyone has installed it on openSUSE. Has anyone on this list has any experience on this ? If anyone has any option that may contradict any my claim please, do state your option.
Thanks, Rui Santos
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Hi,
Have you consider the msi wind U100X ? I did consider it, but dropped it for a few reasons, witch I'll explain later on this email. I was surprised that no one talk about it on the mailing lists since it is ship with SuSE SLES preinstalled :-) OpenSuSE 11 works 100% (from what I have read on Google) about the same price as the eeePC 901 In my area it costs about 40€ ( 60$USD ) more. I am thinking of buying one...
SPECs: Intel ATOM 80 Gb hard drive (no SSD) This is one the problem. I wanted a non mechanical storage. It's important for what I want to do with it. 10.2" screen size Big keyboard Smaller than the Aspire No. Aspire also has a 8.9"" screen. 1.2 kg bluetooth Wifi b/g 3 USB
The only eck, is the 3 cell battery which should give 2h30 - 3h00 autonomy A model ship with a 6 cell battery should arrive soon That "soon" could be a problem... I wanted it almost now...
MSI could be nice options for many people. If you type a lot, you would need a bigger keyboard, IMO.
FYI
Cheers
Thanks for you input,
Matthias
Rui
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Ahoj, You wrote:
Have you consider the msi wind U100X ? I was surprised that no one talk about it on the mailing lists since it is ship with SuSE SLES preinstalled :-)
If it is pre-installed then it should work without any problems or the guys who took care about this did a bad job. So what is to discuss about a perfect running machine?
OpenSuSE 11 works 100% (from what I have read on Google) about the same price as the eeePC 901 I am thinking of buying one...
Good luck and we are looking forward to hear from you.
SPECs: Intel ATOM 80 Gb hard drive (no SSD) 10.2" screen size Big keyboard Smaller than the Aspire 1.2 kg bluetooth Wifi b/g 3 USB
The only eck, is the 3 cell battery which should give 2h30 - 3h00 autonomy A model ship with a 6 cell battery should arrive soon
And thats what makes us different. You might like the above but some don't. I like to have no hard drive - I can shake my EeePC like mad without being scared that the hard drive will fail. Greetings, Marco -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Dienstag 19 August 2008 21:34:21 schrieb matthias.titeux@inserm.fr:
Rui Santos
a écrit : [...]
Have you consider the msi wind U100X ? I was surprised that no one talk about it on the mailing lists since it is ship with SuSE SLES preinstalled :-)
At least here in germany it seems to be impossible to get one. I have send a polite email to msi about the state of linux version and have got _no_ answer. Not even something like "We don't know".
OpenSuSE 11 works 100% (from what I have read on Google)
According to several msi wind forums the rumor goes that the newer winds should have got a new touchpad for which no linux driver is available.
about the same price as the eeePC 901 I am thinking of buying one...
SPECs: Intel ATOM 80 Gb hard drive (no SSD) 10.2" screen size Big keyboard Smaller than the Aspire 1.2 kg bluetooth Wifi b/g 3 USB
The only eck, is the 3 cell battery which should give 2h30 - 3h00 autonomy A model ship with a 6 cell battery should arrive soon
I have ordered an eee pc 900A, which uses xandros linux (I will replace it with openSUSE of course). For me it is important to get _no_ Windows. I don't be a part of Microsoft's market share... The hardware of the 900A is somewhat between a eee pc 900 and a 901. A 8,9" LCD, Intel Atom and a 4 cell battery, which should last acceptable long with a SSD. It's only caveat is that the SDD has only 8GB. But that can be compensated with an additional SDHC card or by replacing the SSD-Module with a larger one. Cheers Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Herbert Graeber
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Neil
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Rui Santos