Re: [SuSE Linux] SuSE derailed? Not if...
...it is RPM that becomes the default or "standard". Then distributions will be unfettered by such concerns. That seems to be the distinction no one makes because Microsoft held the computer world by BOTH balls, operating system and chief Application: Office Suite. If the kernel is stabalized, and the tree standardized, then only the intsallation of packages need be agreed on. In the Linux world things can work differently if folks are jerked out of their Microsoft brings both the ball and bat to the game mindset. S.u.S.E. recognizes and agrees with RPM, and RPM is the feather in the Red Hat. Am I wrong? I admit I'm a newbie. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html
Hi, On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Harald Sundt wrote:
...it is RPM that becomes the default or "standard". Then distributions will be unfettered by such concerns. That seems to be the distinction no one makes because Microsoft held the computer world by BOTH balls, operating system and chief Application: Office Suite.
If the kernel is stabalized, and the tree standardized, then only the intsallation of packages need be agreed on.
In the Linux world things can work differently if folks are jerked out of their Microsoft brings both the ball and bat to the game mindset.
S.u.S.E. recognizes and agrees with RPM, and RPM is the feather in the Red Hat.
Am I wrong? I admit I'm a newbie.
Well, basically yes. But RPM as a common package format is just one aspect. (Note that RPM is no longer the 'Red Hat Package Manager', it is now the 'RPM Package Manager') If you want to be able to install a package on different distributions, there need to be some more things in common. Just to mention a few: init-Scripts and boot concept, location and version of system libraries, location of configuration files and so on. This is what the Linux Standard Base (LSB) project is aiming to, and we are working on this together with the other distributors. It just takes some more time, it's a huge project. Have a look at <A HREF="http://www.linuxbase.org/"><A HREF="http://www.linuxbase.org/</A">http://www.linuxbase.org/ for further info. Bye, LenZ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH <A HREF="mailto:grimmer@suse.de">mailto:grimmer@suse.de</A> Schanzaeckerstr. 10 <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~grimmer"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~grimmer</A">http://www.suse.de/~grimmer 90443 Nuernberg, Germany - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html
This is what the Linux Standard Base (LSB) project is aiming to, and we are working on this together with the other distributors. It just takes some more time, it's a huge project. Have a look at <A HREF="http://www.linuxbase.org/"><A HREF="http://www.linuxbase.org/</A">http://www.linuxbase.org/ for further info.
LSB is a nice effort. It may or may not succeed. What I'm worrying about is that for the average person, Linux == RedHat and more so if it comes preinstalled. Who will you sell an upgrade to if the people only knows another distro? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html
uhm...wanted to clarify that when I said S.u.S.E. wasn't 'going anywhere' what I meant in better words, was that I expect them to be around for a long time regardless of what happens with RedHat or any other dist, not that I think 'they're going nowhere'. I just wanted to clarify, due to all the different languages and the way different people here what's being said, so there was no misunderstanding. Anyway... - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html
Very nice article on ZD-Net, should make alot of people feel better about SuSE's place in Linux's standings. Also makes for a very nice read as they compare SuSE, RH and Caldera to WinNT. Guess who lost miserably?? <A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/issue/0,4537,387506,00.html"><A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/issue/0,4537,387506,00.html</A">http://www.zdnet.com/sr/stories/issue/0,4537,387506,00.html -- Ec|ipse on EFnet - tomas@primenet.com - <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~tomas"><A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~tomas</A">http://www.primenet.com/~tomas Ec|ipse@|Watcher| - botnet webpage down until further notice Slackware Linux v3.6+ - Kernels 2.0.35/2.2.0p7 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html
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