[opensuse] A couple things i see in KDE4
The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the kmenu. In kde3->kmenu->applications->new programs, i see new apps listed. Does kde4 list new apps? Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)? Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks and did not launch. Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 11 January 2008 09:45:54 pm Chris Arnold wrote:
The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the kmenu. In kde3->kmenu->applications->new programs, i see new apps listed. Does kde4 list new apps?
Probably after menu restart. I guess application is klauncher. I tried to kill it, but it was immediately started again. Just blink, and new PID will tell that is replaced.
Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)?
See link below.
Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks and did not launch.
It seems that 'trash:' , 'sysinfo:' ,'remote:' are not yet functional.
Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.
You'll find more information about status: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4 -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Chris Arnold wrote:
The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the kmenu. In kde3->kmenu->applications->new programs, i see new apps listed. Does kde4 list new apps? Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)? Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks and did not launch. Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.
Chris, I see all the same issues. The panel particularly bugs me because I had my KDE3 panel quite heavily customised. Before I could even get it going, I had to install some extra stuff that wasn't listed as dependencies. I got the infamous "Can't start kdeint4. Check your installation" message. Turned out that I had to install strigi-0.5.7-20.3 to get kdeinit4 to launch. Only then would KDE4 run. I'm not even sure what strigi is. Now it's running, it looks awful. it's clunky and slow and things crash randomly. Klipper won't paste text from a bash terminal with middle mouse click - I have to do paste without formatting from the context menu. You could remove KDE3 and then install KDE4 from a curses yast2. KDE4 instals into a different place (/usr) from KDE3 (/opt), and they are meant to be completely separated. I'm disappointed in KDE4, and won't be removing KDE3 for some time yet. One of the KDE developers was saying online that it wasn't ready last week, and recommending a further period of testing. I agree. I don't think it's ready, and I think this release will damage KDE's reputation. For me, that's a real shame, as I've been a KDE user exclusively since SuSE 5.1 came out. Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 January 2008 04:43:50 am Paul Hands wrote:
Chris Arnold wrote:
The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the kmenu. In kde3->kmenu->applications->new programs, i see new apps listed. Does kde4 list new apps? Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)? Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks and did not launch. Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.
Chris,
I see all the same issues. The panel particularly bugs me because I had my KDE3 panel quite heavily customised. Before I could even get it going, I had to install some extra stuff that wasn't listed as dependencies. I got the infamous "Can't start kdeint4. Check your installation" message. Turned out that I had to install strigi-0.5.7-20.3 to get kdeinit4 to launch. Only then would KDE4 run. I'm not even sure what strigi is. Now it's running, it looks awful. it's clunky and slow and things crash randomly. Klipper won't paste text from a bash terminal with middle mouse click - I have to do paste without formatting from the context menu.
You could remove KDE3 and then install KDE4 from a curses yast2. KDE4 instals into a different place (/usr) from KDE3 (/opt), and they are meant to be completely separated.
I'm disappointed in KDE4, and won't be removing KDE3 for some time yet. One of the KDE developers was saying online that it wasn't ready last week, and recommending a further period of testing. I agree. I don't think it's ready, and I think this release will damage KDE's reputation. For me, that's a real shame, as I've been a KDE user exclusively since SuSE 5.1 came out.
Paul
1) Found on link I gave before http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4 : http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174 http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2600 2) What version you are running. Strigi was a problem for me with version provided with 10.3 release. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Chris Arnold wrote: [...] I'm disappointed in KDE4, and won't be removing KDE3 for some time yet. Well my experience is different. This is the first time I have used openSUSE on a permanent basis since I started using linux so eons ago. I installed openSUSE 10.3 specifically because I could install & run KDE3 & 4. I use KDE4 exclusively and have uninstalled most of the KDE3 rpms save for the base system. The only
On Jan 12, 2008 10:43 AM, Paul Hands <jphands@eircom.net> wrote: thing I dislike is the default menu. However, there is an applet for the KDE3 menu which I use. The only thing that crashes for me is opera 9.5 beta. Everything else just works. Since the beta included in the 10.3 release, KDE4 has improved in leaps and bounds. Yes, this release of KDE4 is the start. Not everything has been ported over. It is the start of good things to come.
One of the KDE developers was saying online that it wasn't ready last week, and recommending a further period of testing. This happens with every large software project. It can also use a bit more development, a bit more testing. Well, it has been released. You are going to have to live with it. Is it prefect? No, but it is improving all the time.
I don't think it's ready, and I think this release will damage KDE's reputation. For me, that's a real shame, as I've been a KDE user exclusively since SuSE 5.1 came out. Please, hold off on the negativity for now. I've used KDE exclusively since 1.0beta3 which I compiled myself. This is one of the best .0 releases. Everything is not there yet. It will get there.
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On Saturday 12 January 2008 04:45:54 Chris Arnold wrote:
The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the kmenu. In kde3->kmenu->applications->new programs, i see new apps listed. Does kde4 list new apps?
It's not yet implemented in the Kickoff/KDE4 version.
Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)?
I wouldn't put my money on kdm4 yet but in general yes.
Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks and did not launch.
Integration/migration support work has to be yet done.
Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.
It's not yet implemented in KDE4. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 13. Januar 2008 08:26:17 schrieb Stephan Binner:
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I wouldn't put my money on kdm4 yet but in general yes.
If you want some to play around with kdm4, it should be possible to configure it in /etc/sysconfig/xdm.
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