How does one upgrade KDE for Suse 8.1? Just download all the RPM's and do an rpm -ivh rpm-file.rpm? Do they need to be installed in any particular order? Does the rpm command need to do an upgrade instead of an install of the RPM? -Thanks- Jim
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 22:45, Jim Norton wrote:
How does one upgrade KDE for Suse 8.1? Just download all the RPM's and do an rpm -ivh rpm-file.rpm?
Jim, Please have a look under the SuSE FAQ: http://susefaq.sourceforge.net/kde.html#KDE_UPGRADE It will be soon a section about 3.1.4 The process is 100% same. Regards, Stefan
Do they need to be installed in any particular order?
Does the rpm command need to do an upgrade instead of an install of the RPM?
-Thanks- Jim
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 22:45, Jim Norton wrote:
How does one upgrade KDE for Suse 8.1? Just download all the RPM's and do an rpm -ivh rpm-file.rpm?
Jim,
Please have a look under the SuSE FAQ: http://susefaq.sourceforge.net/kde.html#KDE_UPGRADE
It will be soon a section about 3.1.4 The process is 100% same.
Regards, Stefan
Thanks Stefan. I assume this will work the same for a SuSE 8.1 system? The FAQ talks about a SuSE 8.2 system. -Jim-
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 23:01, Jim Norton wrote:
ssume this will work the same for a SuSE 8.1 system? The FAQ talks about a SuSE 8.2 system.
that's right. It should be same process. I haven't test myself on 8.1 but both Scenarios should work. Please report back if you have problems. Stefan
* Jim Norton
How does one upgrade KDE for Suse 8.1? Just download all the RPM's and do an rpm -ivh rpm-file.rpm?
Just a general comment; you want -Uvh for update, or even better -Fvh for freshen. With freshen you only update already installed packages. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.
Is there a faster server that has the SuSE KDE 3.1.4 rpm updates that can be found at ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.1/ ? I am trying to get the needed files, but the bandwidth to the above ftp server is painfully slow for me.. -Jim-
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 21:26, Jim Norton wrote:
Is there a faster server that has the SuSE KDE 3.1.4 rpm updates that can be found at ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/u pdate_for_8.1/ ?
I am trying to get the needed files, but the bandwidth to the above ftp server is painfully slow for me..
-Jim-
Go to www.suse.com Click site map Bottom of second column is a link to all mirrors. You can try any of these. Try one where its the middle of the night. Georgia tech is good. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 21:26, Jim Norton wrote:
Is there a faster server that has the SuSE KDE 3.1.4 rpm updates that can be found at ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/u pdate_for_8.1/ ?
I am trying to get the needed files, but the bandwidth to the above ftp server is painfully slow for me..
-Jim-
Go to www.suse.com Click site map Bottom of second column is a link to all mirrors. You can try any of these. Try one where its the middle of the night. Georgia tech is good.
Wonderful! Thanks again for the help John. -Jim-
On Tuesday 30 September 2003 21:26, Jim Norton wrote:
Is there a faster server that has the SuSE KDE 3.1.4 rpm updates that can be found at ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/u pdate_for_8.1/ ?
I am trying to get the needed files, but the bandwidth to the above ftp server is painfully slow for me..
-Jim-
Go to www.suse.com Click site map Bottom of second column is a link to all mirrors. You can try any of these. Try one where its the middle of the night. Georgia tech is good.
Now I am downloading the files at my max bandwidth from the local university here.. it's awesome. Question though.. I am using the "one directory" method for updating KDE using yast -i *.rpm Can I just put all the RPMS from the various directories ( base, applications etc ) in the same directory and update using yast from there? Thanks, Jim
On 10/01/2003 01:47 PM, Jim Norton wrote:
Now I am downloading the files at my max bandwidth from the local university here.. it's awesome. Question though.. I am using the "one directory" method for updating KDE using yast -i *.rpm
Better is to use rpm -Fvh *.rpm, which will only update the packages you have installed, plus any needed for dependencies.
Can I just put all the RPMS from the various directories ( base, applications etc ) in the same directory and update using yast from there?
You can put them all in the same directory. I don't know about using yast for multiple packages, but IIWY I would use an xterm and rpm -Fvh *.rpm, you will see all the messages that may be shown, any errors, etc. I know before (8.0) yast couldn't do multiple packages from the command line, but it could have changed. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 13:17 pm, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
On 10/01/2003 01:47 PM, Jim Norton wrote:
Now I am downloading the files at my max bandwidth from the local university here.. it's awesome. Question though.. I am using the "one directory" method for updating KDE using yast -i *.rpm
Better is to use rpm -Fvh *.rpm, which will only update the packages you have installed, plus any needed for dependencies.
Hmm, I wonder. I've seen that suggested quite a few times. But, I've never understood why -F would also install needed dependencies. man rpm states of rpm -F This will upgrade packages, but only if an earlier version currently exists. rpm -U however "upgrades or installs" the package(s). As, IME, bits of KDE tend to wander around among different releases, and as I've never had problems using rpm -U (with KDE), I await more more convincing evidence on why rpm -F is better. <snip> -- Vic Ayres
Op woensdag 1 oktober 2003 22:32, schreef Vic Ayres:
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 13:17 pm, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
On 10/01/2003 01:47 PM, Jim Norton wrote:
Now I am downloading the files at my max bandwidth from the local university here.. it's awesome. Question though.. I am using the "one directory" method for updating KDE using yast -i *.rpm
Better is to use rpm -Fvh *.rpm, which will only update the packages you have installed, plus any needed for dependencies.
Hmm, I wonder. I've seen that suggested quite a few times. But, I've never understood why -F would also install needed dependencies. man rpm states of rpm -F This will upgrade packages, but only if an earlier version currently exists.
rpm -U however "upgrades or installs" the package(s). As, IME, bits of KDE tend to wander around among different releases, and as I've never had problems using rpm -U (with KDE), I await more more convincing evidence on why rpm -F is better.
The -F stands for force. It will bypass any checks and just install the rpm even if it will mess with your system or rpm database. You should actually _never_ need this argument. Dependencies are handled 1 layer above rpm. This is done by YAST or APT. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
Richard Bos wrote:
Op woensdag 1 oktober 2003 22:32, schreef Vic Ayres:
On Wednesday 01 October 2003 13:17 pm, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
On 10/01/2003 01:47 PM, Jim Norton wrote:
Now I am downloading the files at my max bandwidth from the local university here.. it's awesome. Question though.. I am using the "one directory" method for updating KDE using yast -i *.rpm
Better is to use rpm -Fvh *.rpm, which will only update the packages you have installed, plus any needed for dependencies.
Hmm, I wonder. I've seen that suggested quite a few times. But, I've never understood why -F would also install needed dependencies. man rpm states of rpm -F This will upgrade packages, but only if an earlier version currently exists.
rpm -U however "upgrades or installs" the package(s). As, IME, bits of KDE tend to wander around among different releases, and as I've never had problems using rpm -U (with KDE), I await more more convincing evidence on why rpm -F is better.
The -F stands for force. It will bypass any checks and just install the rpm even if it will mess with your system or rpm database. You should actually _never_ need this argument.
Dependencies are handled 1 layer above rpm. This is done by YAST or APT.
According to the man pages on rpm the -F is the same as --freshen and --force is to force. D.C.
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