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Stan Goodman

7 Oct 2008 7 Oct '08

12:21

Will someone be kind enough to visit thesite at http://www.sundayisrael.com/?gclid=COSC6bOKlZYCFQ6S1QodeyjVDw and see if it accepts your Flash installation without complaint? And if not, could you suggest a reason, and maybe a solution? The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem. Here is the relevant paragraph in the About: plugins screen: ***** Shockwave Flash File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes ***** The system is openSuSE v10.3 x86_64. The browser is Firefox v2.0.0.17, but the phenomenon has been around for a long time, through lots of FF updates. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Pete Connolly

7 Oct 7 Oct

12:29

On Tuesday 07 October 2008 13:21:07 Stan Goodman wrote:

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Will someone be kind enough to visit thesite at http://www.sundayisrael.com/?gclid=COSC6bOKlZYCFQ6S1QodeyjVDw and see if it accepts your Flash installation without complaint? And if not, could you suggest a reason, and maybe a solution?

The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem.

Here is the relevant paragraph in the About: plugins screen:

***** Shockwave Flash

File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes *****

The system is openSuSE v10.3 x86_64. The browser is Firefox v2.0.0.17, but the phenomenon has been around for a long time, through lots of FF updates.

Hi Stan Just tried - no problem here on 11.0, Firefox 3.03 with Flash 9,0,124,0 installed. I haven't seen that message on a website for a long time now. Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

12:48

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2008-10-07 at 14:21 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Will someone be kind enough to visit thesite at http://www.sundayisrael.com/?gclid=COSC6bOKlZYCFQ6S1QodeyjVDw and see if it accepts your Flash installation without complaint? And if not, could you suggest a reason, and maybe a solution?

The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem.

I had that problem last week on another site. On some pages of a particular site, and not on another pages of same site. A day after, it worked, and I changed nothing. It must be something they did. Your site works for me, by the way. I'musing 11.0 - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjrWo0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UyoACgiMkoU9hQ0QSPZBN9evZCdcUx i2QAn0T16tA7a+hL5+c8jO6pWe7zqaGl =n/K0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Plater

12:49

Stan Goodman wrote:

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Will someone be kind enough to visit thesite at http://www.sundayisrael.com/?gclid=COSC6bOKlZYCFQ6S1QodeyjVDw and see if it accepts your Flash installation without complaint? And if not, could you suggest a reason, and maybe a solution?

The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem.

Here is the relevant paragraph in the About: plugins screen:

***** Shockwave Flash

File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes *****

The system is openSuSE v10.3 x86_64. The browser is Firefox v2.0.0.17, but the phenomenon has been around for a long time, through lots of FF updates.

Can confirm 11.1 beta 2 libflashsupport-000-64.84 flash-player-9.0.124.0-10.1 and MozillaFirefox-3.0.3-1.2 My hebrews not so good though. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jose Thadeu Cavalcante

14:10

On Tuesday 07 October 2008 09:21:07 Stan Goodman wrote:

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Will someone be kind enough to visit thesite at http://www.sundayisrael.com/?gclid=COSC6bOKlZYCFQ6S1QodeyjVDw and see if it accepts your Flash installation without complaint? And if not, could you suggest a reason, and maybe a solution?

The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem.

Here is the relevant paragraph in the About: plugins screen:

***** Shockwave Flash

File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes *****

The system is openSuSE v10.3 x86_64. The browser is Firefox v2.0.0.17, but the phenomenon has been around for a long time, through lots of FF updates.

-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel No problem with openSUSE 11.0, Konqueror 3.5.10, Flash 9.0.124.0. Thadeu

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Larry Stotler

14:35

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Will someone be kind enough to visit thesite at http://www.sundayisrael.com/?gclid=COSC6bOKlZYCFQ6S1QodeyjVDw and see if it accepts your Flash installation without complaint? And if not, could you suggest a reason, and maybe a solution?

The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem.

I'm at work and using an XP system with Firefox 3.0.3 and flash 9.0r124 and it works as well. Honestly, most flash based sites like this one I find very irritating and I usually email the admins complaining about their excessive use of flash. I'd offer to give you the link, but I also can't read Hebrew..... good luck. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

14:46

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2008-10-07 at 10:35 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote:

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Honestly, most flash based sites like this one I find very irritating and I usually email the admins complaining about their excessive use of flash. I'd offer to give you the link, but I also can't read Hebrew.....

I know of one, that boast of "accesibility", that uses flash (static) for the titles, in order to use fancy fonts or something. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjrdkoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WMJwCdFZ0clutxeT8P7jwaQ4VY2nuN olUAn13JF8hbeWHEDRWgMYteFUFFFgbx =WzgY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Howorth

15:42

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I know of one, that boast of "accesibility", that uses flash (static) for the titles, in order to use fancy fonts or something.

Annoyingly, there are ways of doing that. Flash has some features. Try visiting the site and actually testing its accessibility. I think you might be surprised. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

22:19

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2008-10-07 at 16:42 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I know of one, that boast of "accesibility", that uses flash (static) for the titles, in order to use fancy fonts or something.

Annoyingly, there are ways of doing that. Flash has some features. Try visiting the site and actually testing its accessibility. I think you might be surprised.

Well, if I can't access because the damn site says I have no flash... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjr4GUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WmnACfbEgyfogHeNAV9lufaVDsjpOd ykQAnjJBMn4h639HSiR8jAgq9nP9qYIG =FdrZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

17:22

At 16:35:13 on Tuesday Tuesday 07 October 2008, "Larry Stotler" wrote:

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On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Will someone be kind enough to visit thesite at http://www.sundayisrael.com/?gclid=COSC6bOKlZYCFQ6S1QodeyjVDw and see if it accepts your Flash installation without complaint? And if not, could you suggest a reason, and maybe a solution?

The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem.

I'm at work and using an XP system with Firefox 3.0.3 and flash 9.0r124 and it works as well.

Honestly, most flash based sites like this one I find very irritating and I usually email the admins complaining about their excessive use of flash. I'd offer to give you the link, but I also can't read Hebrew.....

good luck.

Many thanks for all those who responded. Yes, I do have NoScript installed, but never thought of it in terms of Flash. I'll have to try permitting the site. Interesting, however, that the problem appears on some sites but not on others, so the designers are clearly doing different things, as one of the responses has observed. That means, of course, that there isn't a way to allow the problematic sites globally, which is a pain. And I already know that complaining to webmasters doesn't help much. Thanks again... -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Larry Stotler

17:52

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Many thanks for all those who responded. Yes, I do have NoScript installed, but never thought of it in terms of Flash. I'll have to try permitting the site. Interesting, however, that the problem appears on some sites but not on others, so the designers are clearly doing different things, as one of the responses has observed. That means, of course, that there isn't a way to allow the problematic sites globally, which is a pain. And I already know that complaining to webmasters doesn't help much.

That's why I disable NoScript and installed FlashBlock. That way, I know that the flash is there and can view it if I choose. NoScript is powerful, but too restrictive for my tastes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Philipp Thomas

19:01

On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:52:06 -0400, you wrote:

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That's why I disable NoScript and installed FlashBlock.

No need for disabling NoScript :) Installing FlashBlock in addition to NoScript works just as well as I can confirm. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

19:06

At 19:52:06 on Tuesday Tuesday 07 October 2008, "Larry Stotler" wrote:

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On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Many thanks for all those who responded. Yes, I do have NoScript installed, but never thought of it in terms of Flash. I'll have to try permitting the site. Interesting, however, that the problem appears on some sites but not on others, so the designers are clearly doing different things, as one of the responses has observed. That means, of course, that there isn't a way to allow the problematic sites globally, which is a pain. And I already know that complaining to webmasters doesn't help much.

That's why I disable NoScript and installed FlashBlock. That way, I know that the flash is there and can view it if I choose. NoScript is powerful, but too restrictive for my tastes.

I have FlashBlock installed as well. I have used it since it was first introduced. But I need NoScript to control Javascript. I haven't examined NoScript since I received the responses to my query, but I am hoping there is a way to disable its Flash control facility while retaining control over Javascript. If there isn't, I am in a quandary, because both of these unnecessary bells-and-whistles are vastly overused by web designers who feel that they are traitors to the web if they don't use the very latest release of every possible gimmick, even if it adds nothing whatever to the utillity or functionality of their site. I may drop a line to the developer(s) of NoScript. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

22:25

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2008-10-07 at 13:52 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote:

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That's why I disable NoScript and installed FlashBlock. That way, I know that the flash is there and can view it if I choose. NoScript is powerful, but too restrictive for my tastes.

I'm using flashblock, and I had problems with a site. It showed the block, I clicked on the arrow, and I got the notice that I don't have flash installed. Other pages of the same site work ok. Maybe the problem is the sites inquiring whether we do have flash and the blocker interfering or not answering exactly what they expect :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjr4eEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UengCfeoCe8C7JQD4jhYA/a3N8tNQ+ VR0AnjHGLQ0PGegbA0nmqCPYIOShkXEj =12az -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

nordi

14:46

Stan Goodman schrieb:

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The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem. [...] The system is openSuSE v10.3 x86_64.

Works on my 10.3 system on i686. Could it be that you have the NoScript Plugin active in your Firefox? I had to temporarily allow the site, before I did that I had the same message about upgrading my Flash Player. Regards nordi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Thierry de Coulon

15:06

On Tuesday 07 October 2008, nordi wrote:

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Stan Goodman schrieb:

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The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem.

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The system is openSuSE v10.3 x86_64.

Works on my 10.3 system on i686. Could it be that you have the NoScript Plugin active in your Firefox? I had to temporarily allow the site, before I did that I had the same message about upgrading my Flash Player.

Regards nordi

OpenSuSe 10.3 i386 Works with Seamonkey Works with Opera (latest SuSE update) Works with Firefox (2.0.0.16) Does not work with Konqueror (no message, just a grey square) Regards, Thierry -- “Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems.” Linus Torvald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Rajko M.

8 Oct 8 Oct

23:51

On Tuesday 07 October 2008 10:06:28 am Thierry de Coulon wrote:

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On Tuesday 07 October 2008, nordi wrote:

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Stan Goodman schrieb:

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The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem. ... Does not work with Konqueror (no message, just a grey square)

Interesting. I have gray square in Konqueror on some sites, but not the one Stan pointed to. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stan Goodman

9 Oct 9 Oct

20:11

At 01:51:54 on Thursday Thursday 09 October 2008, "Rajko M." wrote:

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On Tuesday 07 October 2008 10:06:28 am Thierry de Coulon wrote:

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On Tuesday 07 October 2008, nordi wrote:

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Stan Goodman schrieb:

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The site gives me only the message "You need to upgrade your Flash Player". This is not unique to this particular site; many sites give the same reaction, although most have no such problem.

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Does not work with Konqueror (no message, just a grey square)

Interesting. I have gray square in Konqueror on some sites, but not the one Stan pointed to.

I think there are a lot of hidden variables in coding for pages with Flash . That some pages work one way with one browser and a different way with another, and that some browsers work with page and not with another, are not the kind of experiences that one expects to find with stable and well-documented software (i.e. Flash). This together with the amateurism rampant in the world of web designers, ... well ..... -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Andrew Joakimsen

10 Oct 10 Oct

19:50

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:

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Will someone be kind enough to visit thesite at http://www.sundayisrael.com/?gclid=COSC6bOKlZYCFQ6S1QodeyjVDw and see if it accepts your Flash installation without complaint? And if not, could you suggest a reason, and maybe a solution?

It works for me on openSUSE 11.0 x86_64 with whatever the newest firefox and flash for that is. But I've seen silly things... some web pages uses ActiveX to detect flash... wtf... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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