columbo (columbo@wowway.com) wrote something I wish to comment : (news:<200506171129.04491.columbo@wowway.com> posted on 17-juin-05 16:29:04)

Just curious if you went into YAST->System->etc/sysconfig editor->Keyboards to eliminate or identify any potential conflicts in your keyboard setup. Hadn't noticed in the threads whether or not you did.

No, but I have now. I don't see anything abnormal in Hardware > Keyboard Maybe I could change the YAST_KEYBOARD from "belgian,pc104" to "belgian,pc105", but that won't help to solve the whole keyboard / xorg / permissions issue. In my previous post, I wrote:

For the record, I've just receive news from the Suse installation support team. I can no more count on solution clues from them as "...the configuration of Belgian keyboards is not covered under the terms of the free installation support." :-((

Despite not being covered by the free installation support, someone on the Suse team is still trying to help. :-)) Here is a paste of our recent discussion: ----- paste -----

The rpm failures you were having would explain some (or all) of the problems you are experiencing. So, I would suggest copying the xorg-x11 off CD/DVD (if the DVD rpm fails then try the CD one)

I've compared the xorg rpm from the DVD and from the CD-ROM, in case the one I used from the DVD during installation is corrupted: both have the same size (10 743 701 bytes). I tried to list the content with rpm --query -p xorg.x11-6.8.2-30.i586.rpm --list But, as I read in the man pages, the -p argument make the --list only show the files that are patched (so no "geometry" there). However, using the KRPMView preview from Konqueror, I saw the mysterious missing files are really in the RPM. (Strangely (?), when I tried: rpm --query xorg-x11-6.8.2-30.i586.rpm --state I was told that the package is not installed. But when I tried: rpm -i --test xorg.x11-6.8.2-30.i586.rpm I was told the package is already installed. Confusing.)

then, with in runlevel 3, rpm --force -ivh package.rpm may be enough to install it. If it succeeds then execute:

SuSEconfig

Now modify the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file once again. After that switch back to runlevel 5.

rpm failed the same way as when I tried to install the package with yast: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /etc/X11/xkb/compat/accessx: cpio: rename failed - Permission denied As I was curious as to what the accessx file looks like and what are the permissions set to, I looked in /etc/X11/xkb/compat There are several occurences of the file (I think one for each time I tried to re-install the xorg package), each with a ";" suffix followed by what seems to be a checksum number. I wanted to show that list to you, and as to easily cut-and-paste a list, I opened a terminal and run "ls -l". I discovered something very interesting: Linux1:/etc/X11/xkb/compat # ls -l /bin/ls: pc: Permission denied /bin/ls: leds: Permission denied /bin/ls: misc: Permission denied /bin/ls: pc98: Permission denied /bin/ls: default: Permission denied /bin/ls: mousekeys: Permission denied /bin/ls: norepeat: Permission denied /bin/ls: basic: Permission denied /bin/ls: japan: Permission denied /bin/ls: xtest: Permission denied /bin/ls: complete: Permission denied /bin/ls: keypad: Permission denied /bin/ls: accessx: Permission denied /bin/ls: group_led: Permission denied /bin/ls: iso9995: Permission denied /bin/ls: xfree86: Permission denied total 33 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 696 Jun 17 15:06 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 576 Jun 17 15:06 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1720 Mar 22 18:29 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 13 23:03 accessx;42adf487 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 13 23:04 accessx;42adf4ca -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 15 10:59 accessx;42afedec -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 15 11:06 accessx;42afefa0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 17 14:59 accessx;42b2c930 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 17 15:01 accessx;42b2c9bc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 17 15:06 accessx;42b2cac2 Linux1:/etc/X11/xkb # ls -l /bin/ls: geometry.dir: Permission denied /bin/ls: geometry: Permission denied /bin/ls: compiled: Permission denied total 96 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 576 Jun 17 15:06 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 960 Jun 17 15:38 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 983 Mar 22 18:29 README -r--r--r-- 1 root root 7448 Mar 22 18:29 README.config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 23337 Mar 22 18:29 README.enhancing drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 696 Jun 17 15:06 compat -r--r--r-- 1 root root 689 Mar 22 18:29 compat.dir drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 424 Jun 4 23:17 keycodes -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2401 Mar 22 18:29 keycodes.dir drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 296 Jun 4 23:17 keymap -r--r--r-- 1 root root 8698 Mar 22 18:29 keymap.dir drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 392 Jun 4 23:17 rules drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 144 Jun 4 23:17 semantics drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 3024 Jun 4 23:17 symbols -r--r--r-- 1 root root 31967 Mar 22 18:29 symbols.dir drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 296 Jun 4 23:17 types -r--r--r-- 1 root root 463 Mar 22 18:29 types.dir lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jun 4 23:17 xkbcomp -> /usr/X11R6/bin/xkbcomp So in the end, it seems the files were not missing as I thought, just "unavailable" (???) How could it be that Konqueror is hidding files to root ? How could it be that root is refused access to some files ?

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(There is also these two line in SaX.log :

sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file

but I don't know yet which file is causing this error.)

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Ken Schneider (suse-list@bout-tyme.net) wrote something I wish to comment : (news:<1119040589.6908.2.camel@pc5.bout-tyme.net> posted on 17-juin-05 21:36:29)

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There are several occurences of the file (I think one for each time I tried to re-install the xorg package), each with a ";" suffix followed by what seems to be a checksum number. I wanted to show that list to you, and as to easily cut-and-paste a list, I opened a terminal and run "ls -l". I discovered something very interesting:

Linux1:/etc/X11/xkb/compat # ls -l /bin/ls: pc: Permission denied /bin/ls: leds: Permission denied /bin/ls: misc: Permission denied /bin/ls: pc98: Permission denied /bin/ls: default: Permission denied /bin/ls: mousekeys: Permission denied /bin/ls: norepeat: Permission denied /bin/ls: basic: Permission denied /bin/ls: japan: Permission denied /bin/ls: xtest: Permission denied /bin/ls: complete: Permission denied /bin/ls: keypad: Permission denied /bin/ls: accessx: Permission denied /bin/ls: group_led: Permission denied /bin/ls: iso9995: Permission denied /bin/ls: xfree86: Permission denied total 33 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 696 Jun 17 15:06 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 576 Jun 17 15:06 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1720 Mar 22 18:29 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 13 23:03 accessx;42adf487 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 13 23:04 accessx;42adf4ca -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 15 10:59 accessx;42afedec -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 15 11:06 accessx;42afefa0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 17 14:59 accessx;42b2c930 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 17 15:01 accessx;42b2c9bc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1184 Jun 17 15:06 accessx;42b2cac2

Just out of curiosity could you show the results of ls -l /etc/X11/xkb

I already pasted the output in the previous post, just after the part you quoted ;-)

and ls -l /etc/X11?

Linux1:/etc/X11 # ls -l total 96 drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 960 2005-06-17 15:38 . drwxr-xr-x 72 root root 6336 2005-06-17 22:22 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1081 2005-03-22 18:32 CardModules.addon drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 72 2005-06-17 15:06 fs drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 2005-06-04 23:19 fvwm2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33 2004-03-18 00:10 kstylerc -rw------- 1 root root 0 2005-06-04 23:37 .kstylerc.lock drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 2005-06-17 15:06 lbxproxy drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 72 2005-06-17 15:06 proxymngr -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 117 2003-03-03 11:08 qt_gtk_fnt2fntrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 973 2005-06-05 02:03 qt_plugins_3.3rc -rw------- 1 root root 0 2005-06-04 23:37 .qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6127 2005-06-17 15:38 qtrc -rw------- 1 root root 0 2005-06-04 23:37 .qtrc.lock drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 120 2005-06-17 15:06 rstart drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 2005-06-17 15:06 twm drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 232 2005-06-05 00:24 WindowMaker drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 552 2005-06-17 15:06 xdm lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2005-06-15 11:00 XF86Config -> xorg.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5959 2005-06-15 10:53 XF86Config-20050615 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4515 2005-03-22 18:50 xim drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 72 2005-06-04 23:14 xim.d drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 136 2005-06-17 15:06 xinit drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 576 2005-06-17 15:06 xkb -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1353 2005-03-22 18:32 Xmodmap -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1049 2005-03-22 18:32 Xmodmap.remote -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5959 2005-06-16 20:29 xorg.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5178 2005-06-04 23:34 xorg.conf.install -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4928 2005-06-15 20:43 xorg.conf-Linux1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4833 2005-06-15 20:49 xorg.conf.saxsave -r--r--r-- 1 root root 6250 2005-03-22 18:32 Xresources drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 104 2005-06-04 23:17 xserver drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 80 2005-06-04 23:17 xsm (No "unavailable" files there.) AmigaPhil, world citizen. /No MS-HTML mail please/ PGP key: 0x9C07F6C1 -----BEGIN CARNIVORE KILLER----- The following garbage may or may not contain crypted message. At least you now know I'm an advocate for the respect of privacy. OytWHzDlxEHakUIEIMhIrAnBIytvVVRVMOEDJFJtDHHSRyOFS1VtjbOEJv1zlxaMctp0zldV DzxUtTnOFzyyxOStvHAWHpS6pqWOp2zYtjaIHApvoOJlOTRLP3KdySqLnFGJlvA5lKqEWHIG DvtcCpaq0R3URz5UFpEFVMMMVOVFVMyytpOVHVltVBvI5IvvOyREHqLbIFD5RfNuIGPFMt== -----END CARNIVORE KILLER-----

Patrick Shanahan (ptilopteri@gmail.com) wrote something I wish to comment : (news:<20050617203715.GV6309@wahoo.no-ip.org> posted on 17-juin-05 21:37:15)

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I've compared the xorg rpm from the DVD and from the CD-ROM, in case the one I used from the DVD during installation is corrupted: both have the same size (10 743 701 bytes). I tried to list the content with

rpm --query -p xorg.x11-6.8.2-30.i586.rpm --list

But, as I read in the man pages, the -p argument make the --list only show the files that are patched (so no "geometry" there). However, using the KRPMView preview from Konqueror, I saw the mysterious missing files are really in the RPM.

note: *much* irrelevant quote trimmed.

rpm --query -p -p calls for a package file, ie: an rpm file on a disk

-P will list patches

Oops, sorry, I mis-read "-p" instead of "-P" inthe man pages. That's indeed with the -P option that -l (--list) only show patched files. The confusion was probably caused by the rpm --query -p xorg.x11-6.8.2-30.i586.rpm --list I tried expecting to see all the files in the .rpm did not show the files I was specially checking for. (As to get back relevant with the topic of this thread ;-) I'll add that using rpm with --force option from runlevel 3 did not help to re-install xorg properly in hope to fix the keyboard.) AmigaPhil, world citizen. /No MS-HTML mail please/ PGP key: 0x9C07F6C1 -----BEGIN PRIVATE MESSAGE----- The following garbage may or may not contain crypted message. At least you now know I'm an advocate for the respect of privacy. WydjOVOTzVyEyayaaUtDSKozIHMHjCS2vJoVIHctOVSnpYttyUOyRVqn6p01qJ1cDBq5MFLt lprWVpVHHMxEvk5tEFAHFSVTybGOax5vOlxyODvUD5OOI3FzEpFIRAzzADLRlvHILPROxSdz hIzlDlEFBHRlJIppKIvIFFvpAz0ppWEvIlRLAMVAJFptMyVHztIUvHJGfOVOtWqRRWtlqFtO nFtMOVOEVNvRMbfMOGuOMPOIG3Gt== -----END PRIVATE MESSAGE-----

Carlos E. R. (robin1.listas@tiscali.es) wrote something I wish to comment : (news:<Pine.LNX.4.61.0506172247260.11566@nimrodel.valinor> posted on 17-juin-05 21:50:01)

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So in the end, it seems the files were not missing as I thought, just "unavailable" (???) How could it be that Konqueror is hidding files to root ? How could it be that root is refused access to some files ?

If your partition is reiser, it is a known problem. You need to boot from the dvd, and run a "reiserfsck" on it. It is known that when a reiserfs part. gets corrupted, one of the symptoms is the "Permission denied" message to root.

Oh s..t. At installation time, I was thinking to use ext3 partitions instead. But then I saw the ReiserFS was default with Suse, and I opted for it. Thanks, I'm going to try that. AmigaPhil, world citizen. /No MS-HTML mail please/ PGP key: 0x9C07F6C1 -----BEGIN CARNIVORE TEASER----- The following garbage may or may not contain crypted message. At least you now know I'm an advocate for the respect of privacy. MUAWOEF3HcrhtER1pIlIP5FUvlapvVOJSVvVHvHABAyFHBHytIpzoUvMOz5SaSVTIGyWJHqM ykVEVIHLtnyzyxOp6Rtxt2FOOKlypRCGfJztLltMSHWbyYODxdjvIOOcnpDtEMyMjazDDIMn lFt0SW1vAFVzq5VODRzFLVlavqVldETxHEFR5ttKJpIJIpqqDHORU0FEIOVVvMNuRPb3tG== -----END CARNIVORE TEASER----- Windows NT: The world's only 80 megabyte Solitaire game!

Carlos E. R. (robin1.listas@tiscali.es) wrote something I wish to comment : (news:<Pine.LNX.4.61.0506180444390.11566@nimrodel.valinor> posted on 18-juin-05 03:48:35)

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Thanks, I'm going to try that.

We'll be waiting :-)

Reiser is nice... except when it isn't. My root partition is ext3, my home is xfs, and others are reiserfs. I distribute my eggs on several baskets ;-) - or, I like to try things. Both true.

In case you missed it due to a broken thread, the problem is now solved. The whole thing was caused by a corrupted ReiserFS. Find details here: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2005-Jun/1950.html AmigaPhil, world citizen. /No MS-HTML mail please/ PGP key: 0x9C07F6C1 -----BEGIN PRIVATE MESSAGE----- The following garbage may or may not contain crypted message. At least you now know I'm an advocate for the respect of privacy. yE6MMklIISyHnaStjAIDpKIMUGDvbpTByOPSxVMFLAtKVREWFRH5IYyoAaEtHJVlDz5JxtaB SUyjpHIvEpIAVItOLnzFtHEatDVApzvOqpUtCF3lFqIvOO0yIzGOFHFWF6pJvMnHW5hOV01R vpc3DOyFxyVzElFDHDOtWtHxSf2cRvvWtldJItRVMdbyVqFHrzVRqJOzLpR5MlvM5lTOfUln EUJNVIOE3RMVP1NqMuutG -----END PRIVATE MESSAGE----- WindowsError:004 CPU too tired to continue...

Peter Nikolic (p.nikolic1@btinternet.com) wrote something I wish to comment : (news:<200506180008.52423.p.nikolic1@btinternet.com> posted on 18-juin-05 00:08:51)

This all points very nicley down the path of HDD problems brewing , Boot from the rescue cd and run reiserfsck cant remember the options off the top of my head right now but no doubt someone will do .

anyway you got disc problems wether they are fixable or not you will have to see the results .

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