Hello, I'm just preparing for a transition from i386 to ppc (a Pegasos2). What I really miss, is packman. How difficult is it to compile all of these packages on PPC? I'm mostly interested in mp3/dvd playing. Bye, Peter
Hi, On Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 23:04:43, Peter Czanik wrote:
I'm just preparing for a transition from i386 to ppc (a Pegasos2). What I really miss, is packman. How difficult is it to compile all of these packages on PPC? I'm mostly interested in mp3/dvd playing.
We "just" need ppc build power. Everything else should be no real problem. contact packman@links2linux.de if youre interested and youre able to use y2pmbuild. Manfred has a PPC laptop but hes already far to busy with x86.... Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar
Hello, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
We "just" need ppc build power. Everything else should be no real problem. contact packman@links2linux.de if youre interested and youre able to use y2pmbuild.
I have never used y2pmbuild before, just rpm few years ago. I'm not a programmer, but compiled quite a lot of software on Linux and FreeBSD in the past 10+ years and can fix some common errors in C and Makefiles :-D . So, I'll look at the http://www.opensuse.org/SUSE_Build_Tutorial and come back to you after I was able to compile my first package. Bye, Peter
Hello, On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
We "just" need ppc build power. Everything else should be no real problem. contact packman@links2linux.de if youre interested and youre able to use y2pmbuild. Manfred has a PPC laptop but hes already far to busy with x86....
OK. I have just finished my first few packages built with y2pmbuild. It seems to me, that most of the packages can be built only when full PPC release is available. There are lot's of devel (and a few other) packages missing from the CDs... Bye, Peter
Hi, On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 23:21:26, Peter Czanik wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
We "just" need ppc build power. Everything else should be no real problem. contact packman@links2linux.de if youre interested and youre able to use y2pmbuild. Manfred has a PPC laptop but hes already far to busy with x86....
OK. I have just finished my first few packages built with y2pmbuild. It seems to me, that most of the packages can be built only when full PPC release is available. There are lot's of devel (and a few other) packages missing from the CDs...
The full tree is on the ftp server. You can mirror that directory to your local harddisk or set that ftp url as installation source in your y2pmbuild configuration. There will never be everything on the CD-set. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:32:15PM +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 23:21:26, Peter Czanik wrote:
OK. I have just finished my first few packages built with y2pmbuild. It seems to me, that most of the packages can be built only when full PPC release is available. There are lot's of devel (and a few other) packages missing from the CDs...
The full tree is on the ftp server. You can mirror that directory
No, it is not! $ find /mnt/pub/opensuse/ -name ppc $ Robert -- Robert Schiele Tel.: +49-621-181-2214 Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:rschiele@uni-mannheim.de
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Robert Schiele wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 23:21:26, Peter Czanik wrote:
OK. I have just finished my first few packages built with y2pmbuild. It seems to me, that most of the packages can be built only when full PPC release is available. There are lot's of devel (and a few other) packages missing from the CDs...
The full tree is on the ftp server. You can mirror that directory
No, it is not!
$ find /mnt/pub/opensuse/ -name ppc $
Yes, that's correct. But as soon as we release the final version, we will have a "tri-arch" tree on the ftp server, that includes ppc packages as well. Regards Christoph
Hello, On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Christoph Thiel wrote:
Yes, that's correct. But as soon as we release the final version, we will have a "tri-arch" tree on the ftp server, that includes ppc packages as well.
I'm waiting for this moment, as some packages are missing to compile packman packages on ppc: gettext-devel gtk-devel etc. Bye, Peter
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Peter Czanik wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Christoph Thiel wrote:
Yes, that's correct. But as soon as we release the final version, we will have a "tri-arch" tree on the ftp server, that includes ppc packages as well.
I'm waiting for this moment, as some packages are missing to compile packman packages on ppc: gettext-devel gtk-devel
Please expect the ftp tree to be published on Oct. 6th (see http://www.opensuse.org/Roadmap for details.) Regards Christoph
Hello, On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Christoph Thiel wrote:
I'm waiting for this moment, as some packages are missing to compile packman packages on ppc: gettext-devel gtk-devel Please expect the ftp tree to be published on Oct. 6th (see http://www.opensuse.org/Roadmap for details.)
And the alpha on 29th September? Will that have PPC as well? I managed to compile some of the packman packages using y2pmbuild. I hade to compile emacs to get gettext-devel compiled, but now I have libxine1 and xine-ui compiled, and able to play mp3, films supported by libxine1 (all divx/avi I found at home) and any (even encrypted) DVD. Bye, Peter
Hello, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
We "just" need ppc build power. Everything else should be no real problem. contact packman@links2linux.de if youre interested and youre able to use y2pmbuild.
OK. Here is my first try: ftp://spike.fa.gau.hu/pub/pmppc/ It's far from complete, as I got tired from creating all the necessary '-devel' packages (full PPC distro is only available 6th October), and I'm not a programmer to fix broken altivec optimalisations. I have compiled: - libxine1 - xine-ui - kaffeine - libdvdcss2 (as far as I know, it's legal to put it on-line here in Hungary, but I still have to consult a lawyer ;-) ). - vobcopy ( and some others, to get these running). This is enough to play any mp3/divx/dvd. I used y2pmbuild-10.0 for building all of the packages. I had to modify some spec files with some additional BuildRequires lines, I can send you the changes, if you are interested (and it was not becouse of my error, but in this case, please explain it ;-) ). If you add the above mentioned URL as installation source, it complains that product info is missing, but it works anyway. Please provide me with some feedback: if they work for you, if I made any mistakes in packaging, etc. It's the first time, that I used y2pmbuild, and the first time, that looked at a spec file in 5-6 years ;-) Bye, Peter Ps: I used the fixed vobcopy (thanks Christoph) Ps2: it's not long, so I add it here: I added this line to xine-ui.spec: BuildRequires: libxine1 libxine1-devel libpng libpng-devel update-desktop-files aalib aalib-devel curl-devel libcaca-devel readline-devel caca-utils slang slang-devel pkgconfig And these lines to kaffeine.spec: BuildRequires: libxine1 BuildRequires: libxine1-devel BuildRequires: kdebase3-devel BuildRequires: kdebase3 BuildRequires: kdelibs3-devel BuildRequires: kdelibs3 BuildRequires: update-desktop-files
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 07:26:48PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote:
- libdvdcss2 (as far as I know, it's legal to put it on-line here in Hungary, but I still have to consult a lawyer ;-) ).
From what I have heard, the problem is that then the URL to that Hungarian site can not be put on the openSUSE.org site at http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories
So please somebody from Novel/SUSE advice if this is OK or not. If it isn't, you unfortunatly need to remoce it or not be included on said page or any other page on openSUSE.org I hope I am wrong and please be fast if I am, because then we could put libdvdcss for other platforms there as well. :-) houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Hello, houghi wrote:
From what I have heard, the problem is that then the URL to that Hungarian site can not be put on the openSUSE.org site at http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories
I would not put it there anyway until I have some feedback, that it's not totally useless, what I did.
So please somebody from Novel/SUSE advice if this is OK or not. If it isn't, you unfortunatly need to remoce it or not be included on said page or any other page on openSUSE.org
If having libdvdcss is the only problem, I can remove it. It's there only because y2pmbuild-10.0 puts it automatically in the local repository :-)
I hope I am wrong and please be fast if I am, because then we could put libdvdcss for other platforms there as well. :-)
I can not find anybody before Monday to answer my questions. But MPlayer contains this and other DVD CSS related codes, and this software is (mainly) developed in Hungary, www.mplayerhq.hu is a Hungarian site hosted in Hungary. So, there is still hope :-) Bye, Peter
houghi wrote:
I hope I am wrong and please be fast if I am, because then we could put libdvdcss for other platforms there as well. :-)
I got answer from the Hungarian FreeBSD list (law students use FreeBSD ;-) ). In short: I can legally use it, but they would not recommend to put it on-line, if I want to stay on the safe side. Nobody was prosecuted (yet), but the related laws are not really straightforward... Bye, Peter
Hello, Peter Czanik wrote:
OK. Here is my first try: ftp://spike.fa.gau.hu/pub/pmppc/
I have compiled: - libxine1 - xine-ui - kaffeine - libdvdcss2 (as far as I know, it's legal to put it on-line here in Hungary, but I still have to consult a lawyer ;-) ). - vobcopy
I added hddtemp and bmp. I know, that xmms is far more superior, but I could not get it to work. The rest of the packages will probably wait for the final release (6th October) because of the missing SUSE packages. Bye, Peter
Hello, During the weekend I have compiled all Packman packages, which did not require missing PPC openSUSE packages. Here is a list: bmp-0.9.7-14 dvdauthor-0.6.11-0 dvdbackup-0.1.1-0 ftpcopy-0.6.7-0 hddtemp-0.3_beta14-0 kaffeine-0.7.1-2 lame-3.96.1 libcaca-devel-0.9-0 libdvdcss-1.2.9-1 libdvdread-0.9.4-149 libxine1-1.1.0-12 lsdvd-0.15-0 speex-1.1.10-0 tuxsaver-1.0-0 vobcopy-0.5.14-0 xine-ui-0.99.4-5 All extra packages needed for compilation are there as well (I had to recmpile some openSUSE packages just to get started). As this is the first time, I put rpm's on-line, I would like to get some feedback. Please let me know, if it works for you! Thanks, bye, Peter
Am Montag, 26. September 2005 12:19 schrieb Peter Czanik:
Hello,
Hi Peter,
During the weekend I have compiled all Packman packages, which did not require missing PPC openSUSE packages. Here is a list:
well done!
...
As this is the first time, I put rpm's on-line, I would like to get some feedback. Please let me know, if it works for you! Thanks, bye,
Would you please supply a URL? I can' find any ppc packages on "packman.links2linux.de" or "packman.iu-bremen.de" -- mdc
Hello, meister@netz00.com wrote:
Would you please supply a URL? I can' find any ppc packages on "packman.links2linux.de" or "packman.iu-bremen.de"
No, as it's not yet part of the 'official' packman. I'm not a programmer, and new to packaging (if I don't count that I did some packages 5-6 years ago...) so I'm just testing, what are my abilites and limitations. The URL was posted a few e-mail-s ago, but it's here again: ftp://spike.fa.gau.hu/pub/pmppc/ When you add it as a source, yast2 complains, that it has no product info, but if you click continue, it works fine. Bye, Peter
Peter Czanik <pczanik@fang.fa.gau.hu> [Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:04:43 +0200]: I'm mostly interested in mp3/dvd playing. Just keep in mind that things like the win32 codecs can't be recompiled for PPC, so you'll lack the ability to replay some video/audio formats. Philipp
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 07:51 pm, Philipp Thomas wrote:
Peter Czanik <pczanik@fang.fa.gau.hu> [Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:04:43 +0200]:
I'm mostly interested in mp3/dvd playing.
Just keep in mind that things like the win32 codecs can't be recompiled for PPC, so you'll lack the ability to replay some video/audio formats.
Philipp
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for mentioning this Philipp, I had been wondering about it also. Is it not possible to get the PPC versions from the MacOS, as they cover about all the formats, don't they. Maybe the Mac doesn't use codecs? Surely there must be a way to remedy this problem? I admit I haven't done much research in this area, since I lost most of my interest in the PPC when SuSE dropped their boxed set. Since 10 has renewed interest in the PPC, so has my interest climbed in having a PPC machine to run it on! ;o)
Hopefully many others using PPC will become interested again with the new SuSE version available. I would also like to ask if there will be a boxed set released again or is that on the back burner at the moment until interest in PPC is gauged with this release? I'm hoping many PPC owners will pitch in to help Packman's site become PPC file full, just as it is with x86 stuff now. Already looking for that new G5 system to set up on. Thanks SuSE! end of line Lee
Am Donnerstag, 15. September 2005 06:04 schrieb BandiPat:
Peter Czanik <pczanik@fang.fa.gau.hu> [Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:04:43 +0200]: I'm mostly interested in mp3/dvd playing. Just keep in mind that things like the win32 codecs can't be recompiled for PPC, so you'll lack the ability to replay some video/audio formats. ... Is it not possible to get the PPC versions from the MacOS, as
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 07:51 pm, Philipp Thomas wrote: they cover about all the formats, don't they. Maybe the Mac doesn't use codecs?
Hi Lee, of course they use some kind of codec, but I think they use their own quicktime libs to cover all formats. Remember you can play Soerensen AV on mac, but how to play it on linux? -- mdc
participants (8)
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BandiPat
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Christoph Thiel
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Henne Vogelsang
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houghi
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meister@netz00.com
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Peter Czanik
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Philipp Thomas
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Robert Schiele