On Tuesday 29 August 2006 16:18, you wrote:

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Right-click the K button ==> Menu Editor

i would assume that KDE will keep/honor any restructuring you do there.

Thanks, I know this. How do you suggest I change the menus to fix the problem though. I could move all programs from submenus to the main one, but that doesn't seem like a elegant solution (it works though).

That would have been my suggestion. i agree that KDE's behaviour here is "over-elegant" (i.e., an attempt at elegance which is just plain annoying), but in fact i've never noticed it before you pointed it out. -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts

On Tuesday 29 August 2006 06:46, stephan beal wrote:

" (i.e., an attempt at elegance which is just plain annoying), but in fact i've never noticed it before you pointed it out.

Well, how annoying can it be if you never noticed it before? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

John Andersen wrote:

On Tuesday 29 August 2006 06:46, stephan beal wrote:

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" (i.e., an attempt at elegance which is just plain annoying), but in fact i've never noticed it before you pointed it out.

Well, how annoying can it be if you never noticed it before?

This brings to mind the actual case about the place where a friend of mine worked. He worked at the HQ of the (Australian) Post Office and we used to meet in the canteen for breakfast or lunch. One lunchtime I was on the way up in the elevator to the cafeteria and there was great commotion with ambulance people et alia - but I just shrugged it off as "one of those things". When I met my friend - who was actually in charge of the cafeteria - he told me that the commotion was all about the cook. When preparing breakfast early that morning the cook dropped a massive cooking pot on his foot. It hurt a bit but not enough to stop him from carrying on. Anyway, he reported later to my friend what had happened who told him to have it checked out in the clinic; in the clinic they took an x-ray of the foot - and told the cook that he broke a small bone in his foot. Suddenly the cook collapsed and couldn't walk because of the pain - hence the commotion downstairs as the ambulance men had to cart him off to the hospital on a stretcher :-) . Cheers. -- This computer is environment-friendly and is running on OpenSuSE 10.1

* James Knott [08-29-06 21:26]:

Well, you did say he "worked" for the post office. ;-)

I beleve he said the Australian Post Office, not the US :^). -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

* Basil Chupin [08-30-06 03:57]:

I certainly did :-) . Our APO is now a very efficient system and very business-like.

Sorry, that lost something in the ocean, I was not referring to the quality of their work efforts, but the recent shootings related to postal workers in the US. :^). -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2

James Knott wrote:

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Suddenly the cook collapsed and couldn't walk because of the pain

Well, you did say he "worked" for the post office. ;-)

So, you have the same with your Postal Service, eh? :-) Mind you, all this happened a while ago and now its all different: work is work now. Cheers. -- This computer is environment-friendly and is running on OpenSuSE 10.1

On 8/29/06, Bruce Marshall wrote:

Go into the menu editor and blank out the name (of Gaim for example) and change the description to Gaim

Works fine here....

Yep, it works. Only one problem. If I uninstall Gaim and install Psi, it will still be called Gaim in the menu. If I have both, the submenu will be called Gaim and in the submenu it will contain both Gaim and Psi. Unless I misunderstood your suggestion? Thanks Marius