Hello: This morning when I went to log onto my machine, which had been running the setiathome client overnight, I found it completely frozen. Not even the caps lock key or Ctrl-Alt-Del would work so I had to push the reset button. I did that but the machine won't boot up now. The boot process hangs at "Starting lpd" When I try to boot from the hard drive "Starting lpd" fails; when I try to boot from a floppy "Starting lpd" shows "done", but the boot process still hangs there. I'd swear I tested my rescue floppy before I needed it but when I try to boot from it the process hangs after I see "Searching for boot record from floppy... OK" All hard drive partitions are formated with the reiserfs so the the SuSE rescue system on the floppy/dvd (ext2) doesn't help (at least with my limited knowledge). The only boot messages that look different from what I usually see are after the file systems are mounted: Starting syslog services syslogd: /var/log/warn: Permission denied syslogd: /var/log/warn: Permission denied followed by: Starting lpd, which either shows "done" or "failed" depending on whether I'm booting from the harddrive or a floppy. I might add that networking and dhcp seem to be working OK, the machine gets its IP address from my Linksys router. Can anybody out there tell me what I might try next to reclaim my system. The machine is an Athlon 700 mhz, 384mb of ram, with 2 15mb eide hard drives. Hda has a ntfs partition with Win2K and a vfat partition. Hdb has two reiserfs partitions, hdb1 mounts at root with SuSE 7.1, kernel 2.4.2, hdb2 mounts at /home. I dual boot using the Win2K boot manager. I was going to upgrade to SuSE 7.2 and reclaim the Win2K partition today, but right now I'm glad to have some way to get the machine running and ask for help. (Today is the first time in three months I've had to boot into Win2K.) Any help will be welcomed. George -- George H. Griffin "Always believe your observations, NOT your theories (no matter how near they may be to your heart) if the two are in conflict." John Gribbin
* George H. Griffin
The boot process hangs at "Starting lpd" When I try to boot from the hard drive "Starting lpd" fails; when I try to boot from a floppy "Starting lpd" shows "done", but the boot process still hangs there. I'd swear I tested my rescue floppy before I needed it but when I try to boot from it the process hangs after I see "Searching for boot record from floppy... OK"
All hard drive partitions are formated with the reiserfs so the the SuSE rescue system on the floppy/dvd (ext2) doesn't help (at least with my limited knowledge).
The only boot messages that look different from what I usually see are after the file systems are mounted:
Starting syslog services syslogd: /var/log/warn: Permission denied syslogd: /var/log/warn: Permission denied
Is /var 100% filled? -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.
On 2 Jul 2001, George H. Griffin wrote:
This morning when I went to log onto my machine, which had been running the setiathome client overnight, I found it completely frozen. Not even the caps lock key or Ctrl-Alt-Del would work so I had to push the reset button. I did that but the machine won't boot up now.
Ouch... I wonder why setiathome crashed. I run it overnight as well, and never had it crash.
The boot process hangs at "Starting lpd" When I try to boot from the hard drive "Starting lpd" fails; when I try to boot from a floppy "Starting lpd" shows "done", but the boot process still hangs there. I'd swear I tested my rescue floppy before I needed it but when I try to boot from it the process hangs after I see "Searching for boot record from floppy... OK"
Try this. Boot some rescue disks (like the one on the SuSE 7.2 CD ONE) and mount the reiserfs partition. Do: cd /etc/rc.d/rcX.d rm -f *lpd* where X is the runlevel you boot into. This will remove the symlink which points to the lpd startup script. Now reboot the system and it will start without lpd. Does this work? Normally I would tell you to boot into runlevel 1 (single user mode), but you don't have LILO as your boot manager and I don't know how to do so otherwise.
All hard drive partitions are formated with the reiserfs so the the SuSE rescue system on the floppy/dvd (ext2) doesn't help (at least with my limited knowledge).
Do you get any reiserfs errors on bootup? Check by doing: cat /var/log/messages | grep reiser If not, then be happy you don't have any corrupted files. I user reiserfs too, and I love its recovery.
The only boot messages that look different from what I usually see are after the file systems are mounted:
Starting syslog services syslogd: /var/log/warn: Permission denied syslogd: /var/log/warn: Permission denied
As someone else said, make sure you don't have /var full. run: df -h
followed by:
Starting lpd, which either shows "done" or "failed" depending on whether I'm booting from the harddrive or a floppy. I might add that networking and dhcp seem to be working OK, the machine gets its IP address from my Linksys router.
Can anybody out there tell me what I might try next to reclaim my system.
The machine is an Athlon 700 mhz, 384mb of ram, with 2 15mb eide hard drives. Hda has a ntfs partition with Win2K and a vfat partition. Hdb has two reiserfs partitions, hdb1 mounts at root with SuSE 7.1, kernel 2.4.2, hdb2 mounts at /home. I dual boot using the Win2K boot manager.
Kernel 2.4.2's filesystem config is buggy. This can lead to corruptions in your fs. Upgrade to 2.4.5 ASAP.
I was going to upgrade to SuSE 7.2 and reclaim the Win2K partition today, but right now I'm glad to have some way to get the machine running and ask for help.
If you do, I recommend you do a clean install. Just make sure you backup your config files ('tar -cf backup.tar /etc/').
(Today is the first time in three months I've had to boot into Win2K.)
Out of curiousity, do you have to reboot because of crashes often? -- noodlez: Karol Pietrzak PGP KeyID: 0x3A1446A0
Karol Pietrzak wrote:
On 2 Jul 2001, George H. Griffin wrote:
This morning when I went to log onto my machine, which had been
running the setiathome client overnight, I found it completely
frozen. Not even the caps lock key or Ctrl-Alt-Del would work so
I had to push the reset button. I did that but the machine won't
boot up now.
Ouch... I wonder why setiathome crashed. I run it overnight as
well, and never had it crash.
I've actually had it crash several times. Sometimes with a segmentation fault, sometimes with the machine freezing up as it did this time. I simply lived with it before because the machine always rebooted fine when I reset it and I figured I'd wait until I updated to 7.2 to try and trouble shoot it.
The boot process hangs at "Starting lpd" When I try to boot from
the hard drive "Starting lpd" fails; when I try to boot from a
floppy "Starting lpd" shows "done", but the boot process still
hangs there. I'd swear I tested my rescue floppy before I needed
it but when I try to boot from it the process hangs after I see
"Searching for boot record from floppy... OK"
Try this.
Boot some rescue disks (like the one on the SuSE 7.2 CD ONE) and
mount the reiserfs partition. Do:
cd /etc/rc.d/rcX.d
rm -f *lpd*
where X is the runlevel you boot into. This will remove the
symlink which points to the lpd startup script. Now reboot the
system and it will start without lpd. Does this work?
This did the trick, but when I tried to reinstall the printer using Yast1 it froze the machine. I could switch to another console and type in my user name, but after I hit enter the login process froze. I ended up having to reset the machine.
Normally I would tell you to boot into runlevel 1 (single user
mode), but you don't have LILO as your boot manager and I don't
know how to do so otherwise.
All hard drive partitions are formated with the reiserfs so the
the SuSE rescue system on the floppy/dvd (ext2) doesn't help (at
least with my limited knowledge).
Do you get any reiserfs errors on bootup? Check by doing:
cat /var/log/messages | grep reiser
If not, then be happy you don't have any corrupted files. I
user reiserfs too, and I love its recovery.
I did find several lines in /var/log/messages which referred to bad inodes. The time stamps on several of them suggest that they occurred while only the setiathome client was running. Some of them were several weeks old, a few were from the night before my problems with booting.
The only boot messages that look different from what I usually
see are after the file systems are mounted:
Starting syslog services syslogd: /var/log/warn: Permission
denied
syslogd: /var/log/warn: Permission denied
As someone else said, make sure you don't have /var full.
run:
df -h
The partition with /var on it is only 29% full. I don't have file quotas enabled so I wouldn't think lack of space is a problem.
followed by:
Starting lpd, which either shows "done" or "failed" depending on
whether I'm booting from the harddrive or a floppy. I might add
that networking and dhcp seem to be working OK, the machine gets
its IP address from my Linksys router.
Can anybody out there tell me what I might try next to reclaim my
system.
The machine is an Athlon 700 mhz, 384mb of ram, with 2 15mb eide
hard drives. Hda has a ntfs partition with Win2K and a vfat
partition. Hdb has two reiserfs partitions, hdb1 mounts at root
with SuSE 7.1, kernel 2.4.2, hdb2 mounts at /home. I dual boot
using the Win2K boot manager.
Kernel 2.4.2's filesystem config is buggy. This can lead to
corruptions in your fs. Upgrade to 2.4.5 ASAP.
I did upgrade to kernel 2.4.5 this morning, but I still get the /var/log warning in the boot messages.
I was going to upgrade to SuSE 7.2 and reclaim the Win2K
partition today, but right now I'm glad to have some way to get
the machine running and ask for help.
If you do, I recommend you do a clean install. Just make sure
you backup your config files ('tar -cf backup.tar /etc/').
I will probably go ahead and install 7.2 on /dev/hda and after I get my files copied from /dev/hdb I'll just repartition and reformat that drive for backup which is why the machine has two hard drives.
(Today is the first time in three months I've had to boot into
Win2K.)
Out of curiousity, do you have to reboot because of crashes
often?
My wife doesn't like the noise from the computer so I shut it down when she's home and I'm not. It's usually on when I'm home, the best uptime I ever had was on the order of 9 days, then a normal shutdown at my wife's request. Thanks for your help. Hopefully the new install of 7.2 will go smoothly and I'll finally get to use the wheel on my mouse. George
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noodlez: Karol Pietrzak
PGP KeyID: 0x3A1446A0
-- George H. Griffin "Always believe your observations, NOT your theories (no matter how near they may be to your heart) if the two are in conflict." John Gribbin
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George H. Griffin
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Karol Pietrzak
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