Hi Folks, I've got a conundrum going on here. I have a Xerox 6180 color laser printer here that's about 15-years old. Recently it started to print a blue streak down one side of the paper and to add speckles at random. This is likely the cyan toner cartridge that's leaking, but the darned thing costs $150 or so. But if I bought a new one it might not fix the problem! So I thought about just buying a new printer, maybe one with a built- in scanner. The Brother MFC-L3780CDW looks nice, but will all the functions work with Leap? Does anyone have any experience with that printer? So both paths have risk. The problem might not be the cyan cartridge in the Xerox printer, and the Brother might not be compatible with Leap! What am I to do! Any suggestions will be appreciated! BTW, I've got a Canon ink-jet printer that never did work with Linux. I had to run Windows in Virtualbox to use it. Not particularly satisfying, and now even that doesn't work. Regards, Lew
Sun, 28 Jul 2024 12:27:54 -0700 Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> :
Hi Folks,
I've got a conundrum going on here. I have a Xerox 6180 color laser printer here that's about 15-years old. Recently it started to print a blue streak down one side of the paper and to add speckles at random. This is likely the cyan toner cartridge that's leaking, but the darned thing costs $150 or so. But if I bought a new one it might not fix the problem!
So I thought about just buying a new printer, maybe one with a built- in scanner. The Brother MFC-L3780CDW looks nice, but will all the functions work with Leap? Does anyone have any experience with that printer?
So both paths have risk. The problem might not be the cyan cartridge in the Xerox printer, and the Brother might not be compatible with Leap! What am I to do!
Any suggestions will be appreciated!
My printing problems ended when I bought my second HP m252, the first one got ruined by shitty 3rd party toners. The HP toner costs twice what it should IMO but I've had this for many years now, problem free. HTH.
On 2024-07-28 13:27, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
So I thought about just buying a new printer, maybe one with a built- in scanner. The Brother MFC-L3780CDW looks nice, but will all the functions work with Leap? Does anyone have any experience with that printer?
I did a quick google search for linux drivers for this printer, and found one result on the Mint forums which says the drivers are already in Linux. However, not all functions are necessarily supported. That writer only mentions one such function, some toner saver. To get support for all such functions, you will need to use the drivers off the Brother website. Another writer on the Fedora forums says that scanimage detects the scanner function with the Linux-supplied drivers, so this is covered without resorting to the Brother drivers. I was unable to find anything openSUSE-specific, but I would expect if it works out-of-box with Fedora, it should also work out-of-box with Leap. My suggestion is to install the printer/scanner with the Linux-supplied drivers, then test out its functionality to see if there are any unsupported features you feel are essential for you. If there are, then grab the Brother drivers from: https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=ca&lang=en&prod=mfcl3780cdw_us_as Note that there is one rpm for the scanner that lets you scan using the scan button on the machine -- sometimes a very handy thing to have. I only ever tried it out once -- somehow it fires up xsane and scans your document with the push of one button. Very handy indeed.
Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2024, 21:27:54 CEST schrieb Lew Wolfgang:
So I thought about just buying a new printer, maybe one with a built- in scanner. The Brother MFC-L3780CDW looks nice, but will all the functions work with Leap? Does anyone have any experience with that printer?
If all functions are supported, I can not say. Drivers are here: https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfcl3780cdw_us_as&os=127 Stephan
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Printer Problems and Suggestions? Message-ID : <4721022.vXUDI8C0e8@linux64> Date & Time: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:20:53 +0200 [SH] == Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: SH> Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2024, 21:27:54 CEST schrieb Lew Wolfgang: SH> > So I thought about just buying a new printer, maybe one with a built- SH> > in scanner. The Brother MFC-L3780CDW looks nice, but will all SH> > the functions work with Leap? Does anyone have any experience SH> > with that printer? SH> If all functions are supported, I can not say. SH> Drivers are here: SH> https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=mfcl3780cdw_us_as&os=127 As a Japanese, I'd prefer to use Brother, but just to be safe, I installed it into Tumbleweed. I got a message like this; lpadmin: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS. Environment; $ rpm -q cups cups-2.4.10-1.0.x86_64 Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "As Google fights for positioning in a new AI boom and an era where some consumers are turning to TikTok or ChatGPT instead of Google Search, some employees now worry product development could become dangerously hasty. The restructuring of RESIN has increased those concerns, the sources say." -- Google Splits Up a Key AI Ethics Watchdog --
Am Montag, 29. Juli 2024, 12:56:13 CEST schrieb Masaru Nomiya:
As a Japanese, I'd prefer to use Brother, but just to be safe, I installed it into Tumbleweed. I got a message like this;
lpadmin: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS.
Environment;
$ rpm -q cups cups-2.4.10-1.0.x86_64
Best Regards.
Maybe because using "old" libs; so you have to install in Leap 15.6 also libnsl1 for scanning. Leap 15.6 is using libnsl2 as standard.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Printer Problems and Suggestions? Message-ID : <2142042.9o76ZdvQCi@linux64> Date & Time: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:10:11 +0200 [SH] == Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: SH> Am Montag, 29. Juli 2024, 12:56:13 CEST schrieb Masaru Nomiya: SH> > As a Japanese, I'd prefer to use Brother, but just to be safe, I SH> > installed it into Tumbleweed. I got a message like this; SH> > SH> > lpadmin: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop SH> > working in a future version of CUPS. SH> > SH> > Environment; SH> > SH> > $ rpm -q cups SH> > cups-2.4.10-1.0.x86_64 SH> > SH> > Best Regards. SH> Maybe because using "old" libs; so you have to install in Leap SH> 15.6 also libnsl1 for scanning. SH> Leap 15.6 is using libnsl2 as standard. Do you even know what you're talking about? 1. cups does not require libnsl 2. Tumbleweed uses libnsl3 by default Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices ― and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring --
Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2024, 03:25:51 CEST schrieb Masaru Nomiya:
SH> Maybe because using "old" libs; so you have to install in Leap SH> 15.6 also libnsl1 for scanning. SH> Leap 15.6 is using libnsl2 as standard.
Do you even know what you're talking about?
1. cups does not require libnsl
2. Tumbleweed uses libnsl3 by default
Best Regards.
Yes. I have written: Leap 15.6 and for scanning see: https://forums.opensuse.org/t/lost-brother-scanner-detection-in-latest-tumbl...
On 2024-07-29 19:25, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Printer Problems and Suggestions? Message-ID : <2142042.9o76ZdvQCi@linux64> Date & Time: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:10:11 +0200
[SH] == Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written:
SH> Am Montag, 29. Juli 2024, 12:56:13 CEST schrieb Masaru Nomiya: SH> > As a Japanese, I'd prefer to use Brother, but just to be safe, I SH> > installed it into Tumbleweed. I got a message like this; SH> > SH> > lpadmin: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop SH> > working in a future version of CUPS. SH> > SH> > Environment; SH> > SH> > $ rpm -q cups SH> > cups-2.4.10-1.0.x86_64 SH> > SH> > Best Regards.
SH> Maybe because using "old" libs; so you have to install in Leap SH> 15.6 also libnsl1 for scanning. SH> Leap 15.6 is using libnsl2 as standard.
Do you even know what you're talking about?
1. cups does not require libnsl
2. Tumbleweed uses libnsl3 by default
We went through all this once before, when my scanner disappeared with the upgrade to 15.6. The Brother drivers use libnsl1
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Printer Problems and Suggestions? Message-ID : <937086a4-93d5-437b-9078-8e22bb8a23f2@accesscomm.ca> Date & Time: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:12:07 -0600 [DG] == Darryl Gregorash <raven@accesscomm.ca> has written: DG> On 2024-07-29 19:25, Masaru Nomiya wrote: DG> > Hello, DG> > DG> > In the Message; DG> > DG> > Subject : Re: Printer Problems and Suggestions? DG> > Message-ID : <2142042.9o76ZdvQCi@linux64> DG> > Date & Time: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:10:11 +0200 DG> > DG> > [SH] == Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: DG> > DG> > SH> Am Montag, 29. Juli 2024, 12:56:13 CEST schrieb Masaru Nomiya: DG> > SH> > As a Japanese, I'd prefer to use Brother, but just to be safe, I DG> > SH> > installed it into Tumbleweed. I got a message like this; DG> > SH> > DG> > SH> > lpadmin: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop DG> > SH> > working in a future version of CUPS. DG> > SH> > DG> > SH> > Environment; DG> > SH> > DG> > SH> > $ rpm -q cups DG> > SH> > cups-2.4.10-1.0.x86_64 DG> > SH> > DG> > SH> > Best Regards. DG> > DG> > SH> Maybe because using "old" libs; so you have to install in Leap DG> > SH> 15.6 also libnsl1 for scanning. DG> > SH> Leap 15.6 is using libnsl2 as standard. DG> > DG> > Do you even know what you're talking about? DG> > DG> > 1. cups does not require libnsl DG> > DG> > 2. Tumbleweed uses libnsl3 by default DG> > DG> We went through all this once before, when my scanner disappeared with DG> the upgrade to 15.6. DG> The Brother drivers use libnsl1 I know WELL that Brother MFC-L3780CDW is a multifunctional machine. I've only expressed my doubts about its print driver at its core, and that's all I'm really saying about it. Best Regards & Good Night. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ Think! -- The IBM slogan --
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: Printer Problems and Suggestions? Message-ID : <937086a4-93d5-437b-9078-8e22bb8a23f2@accesscomm.ca> Date & Time: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 02:12:07 -0600
[DG] == Darryl Gregorash <raven@accesscomm.ca> has written:
DG> On 2024-07-29 19:25, Masaru Nomiya wrote: DG> > Hello, DG> > DG> > In the Message; DG> > DG> > Subject : Re: Printer Problems and Suggestions? DG> > Message-ID : <2142042.9o76ZdvQCi@linux64> DG> > Date & Time: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 15:10:11 +0200 DG> > DG> > [SH] == Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: DG> > DG> > SH> Am Montag, 29. Juli 2024, 12:56:13 CEST schrieb Masaru Nomiya: DG> > SH> > As a Japanese, I'd prefer to use Brother, but just to be safe, I DG> > SH> > installed it into Tumbleweed. I got a message like this; DG> > SH> > DG> > SH> > lpadmin: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop DG> > SH> > working in a future version of CUPS. DG> > SH> > DG> > SH> > Environment; DG> > SH> > DG> > SH> > $ rpm -q cups DG> > SH> > cups-2.4.10-1.0.x86_64 DG> > SH> > DG> > SH> > Best Regards. DG> > DG> > SH> Maybe because using "old" libs; so you have to install in Leap DG> > SH> 15.6 also libnsl1 for scanning. DG> > SH> Leap 15.6 is using libnsl2 as standard. DG> > DG> > Do you even know what you're talking about? DG> > DG> > 1. cups does not require libnsl DG> > DG> > 2. Tumbleweed uses libnsl3 by default DG> > DG> We went through all this once before, when my scanner disappeared with DG> the upgrade to 15.6. DG> The Brother drivers use libnsl1
I know WELL that Brother MFC-L3780CDW is a multifunctional machine. Whoever suggested that you did not? I certainly didn't. You basically told Stephan Hemeier that he didn't know what he was talking about, when in fact it is you who did not: cups may not need
On 2024-07-30 05:33, Masaru Nomiya wrote: libnsl1, but the scanner drivers from Brother most certainly do. All I said to you about that was that the matter was raised some time ago, when my scanner disappeared on me after upgrading to 15.6
I've only expressed my doubts about its print driver at its core, and that's all I'm really saying about it. I don't recall seeing that here. Could you summarize please?
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: Printer Problems and Suggestions? Message-ID : <9f7fce86-4deb-4a9d-ad6e-6ed4d55e540f@accesscomm.ca> Date & Time: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 07:48:24 -0600 [DG] == Darryl Gregorash <raven@accesscomm.ca> has written: DG> On 2024-07-30 05:33, Masaru Nomiya wrote: [...] MN> > I know WELL that Brother MFC-L3780CDW is a multifunctional machine. DG> Whoever suggested that you did not? I certainly didn't. DG> You basically told Stephan Hemeier that he didn't know what he was DG> talking about, when in fact it is you who did not: cups may not need DG> libnsl1, but the scanner drivers from Brother most certainly do. DG> All I said to you about that was that the matter was raised some time DG> ago, when my scanner disappeared on me after upgrading to 15.6 MN> > I've only expressed my doubts about its print driver at its core, and MN> > that's all I'm really saying about it. DG> I don't recall seeing that here. Could you summarize please? Did I write it wrong? I know what you mean. I mean, I understand that you need liibnls2 files if you want to use MFC-L3780CDW as a scanner, but I've never denied that. I accept that the main use of Lew is as a printer, so I focused on the printer function and gave it a mail. If he is going to use it primarily as a scanner, that's a different story. Best Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "To hire for skills, firms will need to implement robust and intentional changes in their hiring practices ― and change is hard." -- Employers don’t practice what they preach on skills-based hiring --
Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2024, 21:27:54 CEST schrieb Lew Wolfgang:
BTW, I've got a Canon ink-jet printer that never did work with Linux.
Which one? https://asia.canon/en/support Stephan
On 7/28/24 23:22, Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users wrote:
Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2024, 21:27:54 CEST schrieb Lew Wolfgang:
BTW, I've got a Canon ink-jet printer that never did work with Linux. Which one?
Hi Stephan, It's a Pixma MX7600 and is not listed. They support OS X, but not Linux. Regards, Lew
Op maandag 29 juli 2024 16:05:39 CEST schreef Lew Wolfgang: > On 7/28/24 23:22, Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2024, 21:27:54 CEST schrieb Lew Wolfgang: > >> BTW, I've got a Canon ink-jet printer that never did work with Linux. > > > > Which one? > > > > https://asia.canon/en/support > > Hi Stephan, > > It's a Pixma MX7600 and is not listed. They support OS X, but not Linux. > > Regards, > Lew Canon has been known to - using same modelno for different models on different continitents - provide drivrs only on some continents, not at all on others. - not being linux supportive -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Forums Team openSUSE Mods Team
On 2024-07-29 16:21, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote: > Op maandag 29 juli 2024 16:05:39 CEST schreef Lew Wolfgang: >> On 7/28/24 23:22, Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2024, 21:27:54 CEST schrieb Lew Wolfgang: >>>> BTW, I've got a Canon ink-jet printer that never did work with Linux. >>> >>> Which one? >>> >>> https://asia.canon/en/support >> >> Hi Stephan, >> >> It's a Pixma MX7600 and is not listed. They support OS X, but not Linux. >> >> Regards, >> Lew > Canon has been known to > - using same modelno for different models on different continitents > - provide drivrs only on some continents, not at all on others. > - not being linux supportive Well over a decade ago, I got my Canon BJC 4000 supported via proprietary drivers (payware) from a third party company. It was a one time payment fairly priced and got my printer working perfectly till I ditched it for a laser from hp. I forget the name of the drivers, could be "turboprint", but I don't remember. And I don't know if they are still doing support for newer Canon printers. I refused later to buy a Canon camera for that reason, even though they are good cameras. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 30/07/2024 à 04:00, Carlos E. R. a écrit :
I refused later to buy a Canon camera for that reason, even though they are good cameras.
camera?? I had Canon camera without any linux problem :-( jdd -- https://artdagio.fr
Am Montag, 29. Juli 2024, 16:05:39 CEST schrieb Lew Wolfgang:
Hi Stephan,
It's a Pixma MX7600 and is not listed. They support OS X, but not Linux.
Regards, Lew
Canon PIXMA MX7600 bjc-MULTIPASS-MX7600 EXPERIMENTAL see: https://gimp-print.sourceforge.io/p_Supported_Printers.php Here: rpm -ql gutenprint | grep -i mx7600 /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.3/C/stp-bjc-MULTIPASS-MX7600.5.3.ppd.gz /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.3/C/stp-bjc-MULTIPASS-MX7600.5.3.sim.ppd.gz /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.3/C/stp-bjc-MX7600-series.5.3.ppd.gz /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.3/C/stp-bjc-MX7600-series.5.3.sim.ppd.gz But this is the actual gutenprint 5.3.5.pre. Stephan
Am Montag, 29. Juli 2024, 16:57:02 CEST schrieb Stephan Hemeier via openSUSE Users:
Am Montag, 29. Juli 2024, 16:05:39 CEST schrieb Lew Wolfgang:
Hi Stephan,
It's a Pixma MX7600 and is not listed. They support OS X, but not Linux.
Regards, Lew
Canon PIXMA MX7600 bjc-MULTIPASS-MX7600 EXPERIMENTAL see: https://gimp-print.sourceforge.io/p_Supported_Printers.php
Here: rpm -ql gutenprint | grep -i mx7600 /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.3/C/stp-bjc-MULTIPASS-MX7600.5.3.ppd.gz /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.3/C/stp-bjc-MULTIPASS-MX7600.5.3.sim.ppd.gz /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.3/C/stp-bjc-MX7600-series.5.3.ppd.gz /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.3/C/stp-bjc-MX7600-series.5.3.sim.ppd.gz
But this is the actual gutenprint 5.3.5.pre.
Stephan
Here is a Screenshot from my Yast--Printer--add printer (in German but that is no problem): https://www.krauttranslate.de/~sauerland/YaST2%20-%20printer%20%40%20linux64... It#s from gutenprint 5.3.5 Stephan
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