[opensuse] 11.0 - kde44 breaks Gnome - I need help connecting the dots... Gnome & KDE Devs Help, please....
Listmates, There is no question about it, there is something new in kde44 that breaks Gnome. Gnome will still start, but the appearance and themes are broken, and many of the systray apps are broken. For example, the volume control in gnome is completely broken, the error for the volume crash offers to "Reload" the volume for you, but when you click "Reload" the volume control immediately crashes again. (sound works, you just can't change the volume) Opposite to what is broken in gnome, all the gtk setting work fine in kde44. You gnome appearance setting like theme, colors, font size, font, etc. all are properly displayed with gimp, firefox, etc. run in kde, but all are completely broken in Gnome??? Go figure. I don't know how this could be happening. Gnome settings are supposed to work in gnome -- you could expect problems in kde -- but not the opposite. The symptoms and broken apps in gnome are: - volume control crashes - gnome settings daemon crashes - all theme elements (font-size, colors, background, etc..) That is one helluva deal when you can't even change the background) - compiz - blackscreens. You can spin the cube, but the cube faces are black (probably related to not being able to set the background) I need help figuring out what in kde44 is causing this problems. I know the gnome settings daemon crash is related to a lot of it, but why should that kill volume control? What is it that is new with kde44 that would be killing the gnome setting daemon in 11.0? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/14/2010 07:31 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
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The symptoms and broken apps in gnome are:
- volume control crashes - gnome settings daemon crashes - all theme elements (font-size, colors, background, etc..) That is one helluva deal when you can't even change the background) - compiz - blackscreens. You can spin the cube, but the cube faces are black (probably related to not being able to set the background)
I need help figuring out what in kde44 is causing this problems. I know the gnome settings daemon crash is related to a lot of it, but why should that kill volume control?
What is it that is new with kde44 that would be killing the gnome setting daemon in 11.0?
Removing Bespin decorations in kde4 seems to have solved the kate/kwrite crashes (maybe temorary), and being decoration related, I had hope it would help fix the gnome issue as well, but, no joy :( I beginning to think that it might be dbus related. One of the more daunting errors received during start of gnome is: "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" I don't know what bus this message relates to but I guess it's dbus. Any tips on how to troubleshoot? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/14/2010 07:31 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
There is no question about it, there is something new in kde44 that breaks Gnome. Gnome will still start, but the appearance and themes are broken, and many of the systray apps are broken. For example, the volume control in gnome is completely broken, the error for the volume crash offers to "Reload" the volume for you, but when you click "Reload" the volume control immediately crashes again. (sound works, you just can't change the volume)
Opposite to what is broken in gnome, all the gtk setting work fine in kde44. You gnome appearance setting like theme, colors, font size, font, etc. all are properly displayed with gimp, firefox, etc. run in kde, but all are completely broken in Gnome??? Go figure.
Guys, The culprit has been found and a work-around found. The problem was the gstreamer-plugin..-bad: 01:56 alchemy:~/.kde/env> /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon CRTC 90 Timestamp: 173813983 Output 91 Timestamp: 173813983 CRTC 90 Timestamp: 173813983 Output 91 Timestamp: 173813983 Shutdown failed or nothing to shut down. [1266998196,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not req uire manual layout management - but it is provided by the application ERROR: Caught a segmentation fault while loading plugin file: /usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstlv2.so Please either: - remove it and restart. - run with --gst-disable-segtrap and debug. [1266998196,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not req uire manual layout management - but it is provided by the applicationCould not i nitialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal 01:56 alchemy:~/.kde/env> rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/lib64/gstreamer-0.10/libgstlv2.so gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad-0.10.17-999.pm.1000.5 02:03 alchemy:~/.kde/env> sudo rpm -e gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad error: Failed dependencies: gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad is needed by (installed) soundconverter-1.4.4-0.pm.2.1.noarch gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad is needed by (installed) brasero-0.8.4-0.pm.1.x86_64 gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad is needed by (installed) nautilus-sound-converter-1.0.2-0.pm.1.3.x86_64 gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad = 0.10.17 is needed by (installed) gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad-lang-0.10.17-999.pm.1000.5.x86_64 02:03 alchemy:~/.kde/env> sudo rpm -e gstreamer-0_10-plugins-bad --nodeps You see the dependencies above will cause you to lose several soundconverter apps by removing gstreamer plugins bad, but you get you beautiful gnome desktop back: http://nirvana/dl/dt/gnome/gsd-working-again.jpg http://nirvana/dl/dt/gnome/gsd-working-again1.jpg (Blue-Joy metacity theme) Now the question is how does gstreamer get fixed? I filed a bug against the settings daemon crash and Magnus has been a great help working it, but gstreamer is packman so who fixes that?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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