Hi It seems i cant boot into my hard drive for some reason i rebooted the machine and when it came up it just has this LILO 22.2 and it will go no further then that can anyone tell me what has cause this and how i could fix it so it will boot up thanks Bob
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:48:46 -0400 (EDT) N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> wrote:
Hi It seems i cant boot into my hard drive for some reason i rebooted the machine and when it came up it just has this LILO 22.2 and it will go no further then that can anyone tell me what has cause this and how i could fix it so it will boot up thanks
We need more information. When you say "it has LILO 22.2 and will go no further" what do you mean? Can you hit tab at that point? Does it give you a list? What happens if you hit "enter"? What did you do previously to this occurring? Is this a fresh install or did you just install a new kernel? Is your bios setup properly for the harddrive? Maybe your harddrive cable came loose? -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
no it isnt an new install and no not an new kernel here if i hit enter nothing goes tab nothing all i did was reboot the machine and it came up award bios and when thru the pirmary dive slave etc and then it saids lilo 22.2 and nothing after that well the bios settings where ok as this machine was working for like an month the only thing i did notice that did happen on the reboot was that the chipaway virus thing did run i trun it back off and try to reboot again but just the lilo 22.2 it gets to so maybe there is something now in the bois as you mention and i am not sure what i need to set there if that is it thanks for any other help Bob On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, zentara wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:48:46 -0400 (EDT) N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> wrote:
Hi It seems i cant boot into my hard drive for some reason i rebooted the machine and when it came up it just has this LILO 22.2 and it will go no further then that can anyone tell me what has cause this and how i could fix it so it will boot up thanks
We need more information. When you say "it has LILO 22.2 and will go no further" what do you mean? Can you hit tab at that point? Does it give you a list? What happens if you hit "enter"?
What did you do previously to this occurring? Is this a fresh install or did you just install a new kernel? Is your bios setup properly for the harddrive? Maybe your harddrive cable came loose?
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You got a virus? Maybe the MBR has been spoiled. Boot the rescue CD (#1) into "installed system", and run "lilo" as root. Then try to reboot normally. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson El 02.09.28 a las 07:48, N1UAN Bob escribió:
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 07:48:14 -0400 (EDT) From: N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> To: zentara <zentara@zentara.net> Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] boot trouble
no it isnt an new install and no not an new kernel here if i hit enter nothing goes tab nothing all i did was reboot the machine and it came up award bios and when thru the pirmary dive slave etc and then it saids lilo 22.2 and nothing after that well the bios settings where ok as this machine was working for like an month the only thing i did notice that did happen on the reboot was that the chipaway virus thing did run i trun it back off and try to reboot again but just the lilo 22.2 it gets to so maybe there is something now in the bois as you mention and i am not sure what i need to set there if that is it thanks for any other help Bob
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, zentara wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:48:46 -0400 (EDT) N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> wrote:
Hi It seems i cant boot into my hard drive for some reason i rebooted the machine and when it came up it just has this LILO 22.2 and it will go no further then that can anyone tell me what has cause this and how i could fix it so it will boot up thanks
We need more information. When you say "it has LILO 22.2 and will go no further" what do you mean? Can you hit tab at that point? Does it give you a list? What happens if you hit "enter"?
What did you do previously to this occurring? Is this a fresh install or did you just install a new kernel? Is your bios setup properly for the harddrive? Maybe your harddrive cable came loose?
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that is the trouble i cant run anything if i run the cd i get syslinux etc and it just stops right there maybe it is the mbr that what i am trying to figure out how i can get any further then i am now! thanks Bob On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You got a virus? Maybe the MBR has been spoiled.
Boot the rescue CD (#1) into "installed system", and run "lilo" as root. Then try to reboot normally.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
El 02.09.28 a las 07:48, N1UAN Bob escribi�:
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 07:48:14 -0400 (EDT) From: N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> To: zentara <zentara@zentara.net> Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] boot trouble
no it isnt an new install and no not an new kernel here if i hit enter nothing goes tab nothing all i did was reboot the machine and it came up award bios and when thru the pirmary dive slave etc and then it saids lilo 22.2 and nothing after that well the bios settings where ok as this machine was working for like an month the only thing i did notice that did happen on the reboot was that the chipaway virus thing did run i trun it back off and try to reboot again but just the lilo 22.2 it gets to so maybe there is something now in the bois as you mention and i am not sure what i need to set there if that is it thanks for any other help Bob
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, zentara wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:48:46 -0400 (EDT) N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> wrote:
Hi It seems i cant boot into my hard drive for some reason i rebooted the machine and when it came up it just has this LILO 22.2 and it will go no further then that can anyone tell me what has cause this and how i could fix it so it will boot up thanks
We need more information. When you say "it has LILO 22.2 and will go no further" what do you mean? Can you hit tab at that point? Does it give you a list? What happens if you hit "enter"?
What did you do previously to this occurring? Is this a fresh install or did you just install a new kernel? Is your bios setup properly for the harddrive? Maybe your harddrive cable came loose?
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Ugh. Sounds bad... :-( What I would do, is disconnect everything. Take out all cards, except the video, all external hardware, except the keyboard. Remove the hard disk, cdroms, etc. Try to boot anything from a floppy. Even memory is suspect. Restore "safe defaults" in Bios. Then start conecting back things, like the cdrom, one at a time. Beware of the IDE cables: if they are of the new type, for ata66 or better, they are thin and fragile. Try to replace with an spare (even an old IDE cable is good for testing). Check and recheck the jumpers on the drives. When you connect something and stops booting, that component is probably faulty (or the cable, or the jumpers). If the hard disk fails, the simplest thing to fail would be the partition table. You can check that just by trying to use fdisk on it (without writing). It is easy to reconstruct if you have a printed copy, horrible otherwise. There is a program in linux that can guess them (gpart), but you need a running linux to use it - I don't think it is on the rescue cd. If you can not even read the partition, the HD (or connections or jumpers) are wrong. Try to connect on a differen position. The maker will probably have a specialised test program on their web page (seagate has, for example). Usually you download the file and create a boot floppy for running tests. They are very good, but you will need the one from your HD for best results - specially for interpretation of SMART codes. There is an ide-smart in linux, but it doesn't run tests. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson El 02.09.28 a las 19:39, N1UAN Bob escribió:
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:39:21 -0400 (EDT) From: N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> To: Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] boot trouble
that is the trouble i cant run anything if i run the cd i get syslinux etc and it just stops right there maybe it is the mbr that what i am trying to figure out how i can get any further then i am now! thanks Bob
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Carlos E. R. wrote:
You got a virus? Maybe the MBR has been spoiled.
Boot the rescue CD (#1) into "installed system", and run "lilo" as root. Then try to reboot normally.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-29-02 09:27]:
[ smip ]
If the hard disk fails, the simplest thing to fail would be the partition table. You can check that just by trying to use fdisk on it (without writing). It is easy to reconstruct if you have a printed copy, horrible otherwise. There is a program in linux that can guess them (gpart), but you need a running linux to use it - I don't think it is on the rescue cd.
[ smip ] You can make a complete, fully cd contained, CD bootable linux system with Knoppix. Download KNOPPIX_V3.1-22-09-2002-EN.iso from http://knoppix.linuxtag.org and burn a cd. Any other programs that you require (ie. gpart) may be placed on a floppy, which knoppix will access. good luck -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org
El 02.09.29 a las 10:29, SuSEnixER escribió:
You can make a complete, fully cd contained, CD bootable linux system with Knoppix. Download KNOPPIX_V3.1-22-09-2002-EN.iso from http://knoppix.linuxtag.org and burn a cd. Any other programs that you require (ie. gpart) may be placed on a floppy, which knoppix will access.
There are several of those. I have one, named "demolinux", obtained from www.demolinux.org/pub/demolinux/. It runs kde and staroffice 5, if I remember correctly. I would like to build my own cd, oriented as a rescue system, complete with utilities and docs, text mode only. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Hi Well i was able to get into the box that had boot trouble but chaning an cpu cache in the bois but seem that something mess alot up and make everything really slow running so trying to reinstall it all now not sure maybe other things in bois not set right yet as machine seems to still be somewhat slower then it should be On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Carlos E. R. wrote:
El 02.09.29 a las 10:29, SuSEnixER escribi�:
You can make a complete, fully cd contained, CD bootable linux system with Knoppix. Download KNOPPIX_V3.1-22-09-2002-EN.iso from http://knoppix.linuxtag.org and burn a cd. Any other programs that you require (ie. gpart) may be placed on a floppy, which knoppix will access.
There are several of those. I have one, named "demolinux", obtained from www.demolinux.org/pub/demolinux/. It runs kde and staroffice 5, if I remember correctly. I would like to build my own cd, oriented as a rescue system, complete with utilities and docs, text mode only.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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N1UAN Bob wrote:
Hi Well i was able to get into the box that had boot trouble but chaning an cpu cache in the bois but seem that something mess alot up and make everything really slow running so trying to reinstall it all now not sure maybe other things in bois not set right yet as machine seems to still be somewhat slower then it should be
If you are not sure what settings need tweaked in the BIOS, I would suggest choosing Setup Defaults. They should be the defaults from the motherboard maker, which should at least allow you to work at a normal speed. -- Joe & Sesil Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace God, I am what I am.
WEll we did set it at defaults and had to trun off an few things so we could get into the drive but the computer is still slow so some setting is effecting it somewhere thanks again Bob On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Joe & Sesil Morris (NTM) wrote:
N1UAN Bob wrote:
Hi Well i was able to get into the box that had boot trouble but chaning an cpu cache in the bois but seem that something mess alot up and make everything really slow running so trying to reinstall it all now not sure maybe other things in bois not set right yet as machine seems to still be somewhat slower then it should be
If you are not sure what settings need tweaked in the BIOS, I would suggest choosing Setup Defaults. They should be the defaults from the motherboard maker, which should at least allow you to work at a normal speed.
-- Joe & Sesil Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace God, I am what I am.
does anyone know what in the bois settings could make an 400 mhz box go slow like an 100 mhz seems something is dragging On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Carlos E. R. wrote:
El 02.09.29 a las 10:29, SuSEnixER escribi�:
You can make a complete, fully cd contained, CD bootable linux system with Knoppix. Download KNOPPIX_V3.1-22-09-2002-EN.iso from http://knoppix.linuxtag.org and burn a cd. Any other programs that you require (ie. gpart) may be placed on a floppy, which knoppix will access.
There are several of those. I have one, named "demolinux", obtained from www.demolinux.org/pub/demolinux/. It runs kde and staroffice 5, if I remember correctly. I would like to build my own cd, oriented as a rescue system, complete with utilities and docs, text mode only.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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I would think you have a hardware conflict somewhere, or even a hardware failure. Try "defaults" or "safe settings" for everything in the bios. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson El 02.09.29 a las 20:00, N1UAN Bob escribió:
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 20:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> To: Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] boot trouble
does anyone know what in the bois settings could make an 400 mhz box go slow like an 100 mhz seems something is dragging
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Carlos E. R. wrote:
El 02.09.29 a las 10:29, SuSEnixER escribió:
You can make a complete, fully cd contained, CD bootable linux system with Knoppix. Download KNOPPIX_V3.1-22-09-2002-EN.iso from http://knoppix.linuxtag.org and burn a cd. Any other programs that you require (ie. gpart) may be placed on a floppy, which knoppix will access.
There are several of those. I have one, named "demolinux", obtained from www.demolinux.org/pub/demolinux/. It runs kde and staroffice 5, if I remember correctly. I would like to build my own cd, oriented as a rescue system, complete with utilities and docs, text mode only.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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did the defaults and same thing so something is wrong somewhere we know that that about all! thanks again Bob On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I would think you have a hardware conflict somewhere, or even a hardware failure.
Try "defaults" or "safe settings" for everything in the bios.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
El 02.09.29 a las 20:00, N1UAN Bob escribi�:
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 20:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> To: Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] boot trouble
does anyone know what in the bois settings could make an 400 mhz box go slow like an 100 mhz seems something is dragging
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Carlos E. R. wrote:
El 02.09.29 a las 10:29, SuSEnixER escribi�:
You can make a complete, fully cd contained, CD bootable linux system with Knoppix. Download KNOPPIX_V3.1-22-09-2002-EN.iso from http://knoppix.linuxtag.org and burn a cd. Any other programs that you require (ie. gpart) may be placed on a floppy, which knoppix will access.
There are several of those. I have one, named "demolinux", obtained from www.demolinux.org/pub/demolinux/. It runs kde and staroffice 5, if I remember correctly. I would like to build my own cd, oriented as a rescue system, complete with utilities and docs, text mode only.
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 02:15:23 +0200 (CEST) "Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
I would like to build my own cd, oriented as a rescue system, complete with utilities and docs, text mode only.
I've had good experiences with mkcdrec. It allows you to build a custom boot-cd, and add as many programs as you want. It was designed to be a backup program, but it has an option to just buid a boot-cd. It has a configuration file in which you can add as many programs as will fit on the cd. I've been using it to build rescue cds with my entire perl5 library on it. With some tweaking, you can add dialout and even X, but it gets complicated because you have to manually load alot of libraries after the ramdisk boots. It could be perfected to do it automatically with some detailed scripting. http://mkcdrec.ota.be/ -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
Thanks! I have just saved this message to my "interesting" folder :-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson El 02.09.30 a las 09:16, zentara escribió:
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:16:22 -0400 From: zentara <zentara@zentara.net> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] boot trouble
On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 02:15:23 +0200 (CEST) "Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
I would like to build my own cd, oriented as a rescue system, complete with utilities and docs, text mode only.
I've had good experiences with mkcdrec. It allows you to build a custom boot-cd, and add as many programs as you want. It was designed to be a backup program, but it has an option to just buid a boot-cd. It has a configuration file in which you can add as many programs as will fit on the cd.
I've been using it to build rescue cds with my entire perl5 library on it. With some tweaking, you can add dialout and even X, but it gets complicated because you have to manually load alot of libraries after the ramdisk boots. It could be perfected to do it automatically with some detailed scripting.
Sory forgot one other thing i did before the reboot and the trouble i try to install an new soundcard and soundblaster sb 16 but have took it back out since that! Bob On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, zentara wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:48:46 -0400 (EDT) N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> wrote:
Hi It seems i cant boot into my hard drive for some reason i rebooted the machine and when it came up it just has this LILO 22.2 and it will go no further then that can anyone tell me what has cause this and how i could fix it so it will boot up thanks
We need more information. When you say "it has LILO 22.2 and will go no further" what do you mean? Can you hit tab at that point? Does it give you a list? What happens if you hit "enter"?
What did you do previously to this occurring? Is this a fresh install or did you just install a new kernel? Is your bios setup properly for the harddrive? Maybe your harddrive cable came loose?
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more on what is happening i also cant seem to boot from floppy or cdrom i also try putting in another new hard drive and the system doesnt even see it i does see the other two HD's and two cdroms i do have in it and it boot till it gets to the lilo 22.2 nd then stops i dont even get any kind of prompt is there something i need to change in the bois or some program i can use to force this to get me to an prompt any thing at all i can do thanks Bob On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, N1UAN Bob wrote:
Hi It seems i cant boot into my hard drive for some reason i rebooted the machine and when it came up it just has this LILO 22.2 and it will go no further then that can anyone tell me what has cause this and how i could fix it so it will boot up thanks Bob
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:14:08 -0400 (EDT) N1UAN Bob <bobbru@chartertn.net> wrote:
more on what is happening i also cant seem to boot from floppy or cdrom i also try putting in another new hard drive and the system doesnt even see it i does see the other two HD's and two cdroms i do have in it and it boot till it gets to the lilo 22.2 nd then stops i dont even get any kind of prompt is there something i need to change in the bois or some program i can use to force this to get me to an prompt any thing at all i can do thanks Bob
It sounds like you blew out one of the power supply voltages. Try swapping power supplies, or failing that, make sure you are plugging in the cables properly. It's very easy to put an ide cable in backwards and it will cause these symptoms. As will having the master/slave settings wrong on the ide drives. What you should do is pull out everything but the floppy drive, then see if you can boot from floppy. If that dosn't work, check for a bad memory card, by pulling them out and putting them back in 1 at a time, or a set at a time. If you can boot from floppy, then carefully replace things, 1 thing at a time, and see if you can boot. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
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