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HI All, I tried to change my password that logs me in using 'change password' (K-Launch/System/Security/Change Password). Whenever I try to change it to something, I get this STUPID pop up that tells me it is a bad password because it is too simple (duh). I do not need some stupid elaborate super secret password to log me in. I want something simple. Can anyone tell me how to bypass that STUPID feature? Thanks Russ
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* Russ
I tried to change my password that logs me in using 'change password' (K-Launch/System/Security/Change Password). Whenever I try to change it to something, I get this STUPID pop up that tells me it is a bad password because it is too simple (duh). I do not need some stupid elaborate super secret password to log me in. I want something simple. Can anyone tell me how to bypass that STUPID feature?
"Stupid" as in "Narrow Outlook". The 'Stupid' feature may be adjusted by the Control Center -> Security Settings. Why don't you just shut off *all* the security? You may then have a 'Smart' system ??? -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711
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Hi All, I accidently sent my reply to Patrick instead of the list. Since Patrick did solve my problem (even though he didn't like my tone) we thought there might be someone else out there that may be annoyed with this minor little security issue so here are the replies. Russ -------------------------------------- Hi Patrick, Thanks for the reply; Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Russ
[04-10-04 10:33]: I tried to change my password that logs me in using 'change password' (K-Launch/System/Security/Change Password). Whenever I try to change it to something, I get this STUPID pop up that tells me it is a bad password because it is too simple (duh). I do not need some stupid elaborate super secret password to log me in. I want something simple. Can anyone tell me how to bypass that STUPID feature?
"Stupid" as in "Narrow Outlook".
No, 'STUPID' as in Micro$oftish telling me what I can and cannot do. I do not believe I need to be protected from myself. Sorry, but the password I wanted to use was not even a word and had numeric characters in it, eight characters in all. Why would it allow 'puppydog' (which is a word) but not a seemingly random set of letters and numbers? This is not a high security, super secret, must die if you hack into it, computer. What good is a super secret password anyway, if you have to write it down on a post-it and stick it to the computer so you can remember what it is? Again, sorry, but the only people that use this (home) computer are my two kids and me. They have their own profiles. But hey, I learned something in the process, so I guess it wasn't a total waste (ok, sorry for the rant).
The 'Stupid' feature may be adjusted by the Control Center -> Security Settings.
All I could do there is change the star echo from 0 to up to 3, and remember password. Checked there before I wrote the list. So I checked a little deeper (since you believed my answer was in there somewhere). Good news is I did find the answer. CC/YaST2 Modules/Security and Users/Security Settings - uncheck the 'Plausibility test' and I can choose any stupid password I want. I could see that little piece of security if this was a business computer in a network with sensitive data. It's not, it's mine mine mine, all mine. I like my stupid password, thank you very much.
Why don't you just shut off *all* the security? You may then have a 'Smart' system ???
ok, now you're being sarcastic, bad form ol chap. Anyway, I do appreciate your help and I am a happy camper again. Thanks Russ <----------- That's not my password -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HI Patrick, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
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[04-11-04 01:14]: Micro$oftish ?? You *do* have the options of changing what you dislike or setting your *own* preferences. Choice that is lacking in micro$oft.
I figured I did, but it simply annoyed me at the time.
- uncheck the 'Plausibility test' and I can choose any stupid password I want. I could see that little piece of security if this was a business computer in a network with sensitive data. It's not, it's mine mine mine, all mine. I like my stupid password, thank you very much.
But, if you will consider for a moment, the distro that you have chosen *is* usable in a business environment and *is* provided with the ability to alter settings to achieve different and varied usage in many situations. You are making the argument you are deriding through your 'tunnel vision'.
Yes it is usable in various situations, and I chose the 'Home' settings when I installed it. Funny, the password I chose at installation was not acceptable when I tried to change it back.
You were able to set your 'Stupid' password but a business or other enterprise would possibly need that 'Stupid' password setting.
I agree (I even said so in my last post)
The entire diatribe would not have occurred but for the single word, 'Stupid', and you would have gotten your answer and satisfaction without arousing a perhaps *protectionist* attitude. There are *many* views of a particular situation, and your presentation was particularly acrid. Many there would, and may have, simply pass your posting given the tone. Remember, it was *you* asking for help while besmirching the distro and comparing micro$oft is flogging a dead horse. Perhaps you will consider this when you next ask for free information from mostly satisfied users.
You are of course, correct. However, I used the word 'STUPID' because that was exactly how I felt at the time. For the most part, I am one of those satisfied users. I have tried several other distros through several years. I finally made the complete jump with SuSE 9.0 (I never boot to Win anymore). Also, I did not compare this distro to Micro$oft in my original post nor did I actually attack the distro, simply the annoying feature that was irritating me. I still think it is an unnecessary security setting for a home computer.
Linux equals choice and provides a continuous learning environment.
Exactly, that is why I like it
Your private posting of your results should have been to the list as others may have similar problems and might have gained from your findings. I have responded privately as I feel you have somewhat embarrassed yourself, but feel free to respond to any or all on the list.
Uh, that was a goof, I meant to send it to the list (I clicked reply but didn't check where it was going. I assumed the list). I too believe it should have gone to the list. Actually, I do not believe that I embarrassed myself at all (sorry you feel that way). I still maintain that is was an unnecessary security feature for a Home computer (corporate yes, Home no). Can I forward these to the list (or just the answer)?
gud luk,
Thanks Russ
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On Sunday 11 April 2004 09:57, Russ wrote:
Hi All,
I accidently sent my reply to Patrick instead of the list. Since Patrick did solve my problem (even though he didn't like my tone) we thought there might be someone else out there that may be annoyed with this minor little security issue so here are the replies.
All those messages remind me of the following ( forgot where I picked it up): Arguing on the Internet is like joining the Para Olympics. Even if you win , you still have a handicap. :-) :-) :-) -- Greetings from /bill at 169 west , 19 south. Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors."
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Bill Wisse
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Patrick Shanahan
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Russ