On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 21:56, Radu Voicu wrote:

Well, yeah, sadly, I had the same problem, I had /dev/hda2 (root partition) formatted XFS, but the kernel wasn't able to mount it... I am still wondering what to do... to boot with an older SuSE distro (8.2, 9.0), and to update the kernel somehow (there's plenty of updates available - that makes me wonder if that wasn't a "rush release" - I don't have any excuse for the SuSE team and I find NO explanation, whatsoever, for leaving the kernel without XFS support)

I have yet to purchase 9.1 here. We need XFS support for sure. Is there any fix for this ? We have standardized our servers on Debian previously but as the latest one had new Adaptec Raid, SuSE was the only distro that would pick up the hardware and find the HD upon the install. Kudo's to SuSE on the 9.0 Pro version for this. We are awaiting to hear now on the XFS issue before moving up. Dee

I had LOTS of other problems, (no XFS support, slab.c kernel panic, grub not installable, hunging at start, hunging at installation finish)

I am pretty upset and I feel like I have been let down by the SuSE team, I wasn't expecting such a mess from a German company

I CAN'T believe that nobody used XFS in the whole BETA team - it seems unbelievable!!!!

On Wednesday 12 May 2004 02:38 am, W.D.McKinney wrote:

On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 21:56, Radu Voicu wrote:

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Well, yeah, sadly, I had the same problem, I had /dev/hda2 (root partition) formatted XFS, but the kernel wasn't able to mount it... I am still wondering what to do... to boot with an older SuSE distro (8.2, 9.0), and to update the kernel somehow (there's plenty of updates available - that makes me wonder if that wasn't a "rush release" - I don't have any excuse for the SuSE team and I find NO explanation, whatsoever, for leaving the kernel without XFS support)

I have yet to purchase 9.1 here. We need XFS support for sure. Is there any fix for this ? We have standardized our servers on Debian previously but as the latest one had new Adaptec Raid, SuSE was the only distro that would pick up the hardware and find the HD upon the install.

Kudo's to SuSE on the 9.0 Pro version for this. We are awaiting to hear now on the XFS issue before moving up.

Go search the data base. I have a printout here of the work around for everything but the '/' partition. And they are working on that.

Dee

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I had LOTS of other problems, (no XFS support, slab.c kernel panic, grub not installable, hunging at start, hunging at installation finish)

I am pretty upset and I feel like I have been let down by the SuSE team, I wasn't expecting such a mess from a German company

I CAN'T believe that nobody used XFS in the whole BETA team - it seems unbelievable!!!!

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On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 06:56, Radu Voicu wrote:

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Well, yeah, sadly, I had the same problem, I had /dev/hda2 (root

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formatted XFS, but the kernel wasn't able to mount it... I am still wondering what to do... to boot with an older SuSE distro (8.2, 9.0), and to update the kernel somehow (there's plenty of updates available - that makes me wonder if that wasn't a "rush release" - I don't have any excuse for

Well, ok the other hand, I recomend everybody that has already installed SuSE 9.1 to get all the updates, there's a couple of them daily - they solved almost all the issues :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederic Soulier" To: "Radu Voicu" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] DISSAPOINTING: Re: [SLE] SuSE 9.1, fails to read/dev/hda partitions... partition) the

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SuSE team and I find NO explanation, whatsoever, for leaving the kernel without XFS support)

I had LOTS of other problems, (no XFS support, slab.c kernel panic, grub not installable, hunging at start, hunging at installation finish)

I am pretty upset and I feel like I have been let down by the SuSE team, I wasn't expecting such a mess from a German company

I CAN'T believe that nobody used XFS in the whole BETA team - it seems unbelievable!!!!

Same pbm here. Installed 9.1 with ReiserFS then when I tried to mount my /home (XFS) from my Mandrake 9.2 installation I got a seg fault. Had to reboot to MDK 9.2, transfer the data I needed to a temporary "compatible" space then reboot into 9.1...

I bought 9.1 pro for the supposed quality (being a long time Mandrake user, I know what a lack of QA can sometimes produce) but I must say I'm slightly disappointed. Except for the awesome YAST2 and the 9.1 pro packaging the rest of the distro is like Mandrake or not as good.

I also think that kernel 2.6.x is not as good (stable?) as kernel 2.24.20+ is. With both Suse 9.1 and MDK 10.0 my box has been unstable with sudden reboots. I don't get that (or a lot less) with MDK 9.2

/Fred

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On Wednesday 12 May 2004 02:52 am, Frederic Soulier wrote:

On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 06:56, Radu Voicu wrote:

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Well, yeah, sadly, I had the same problem, I had /dev/hda2 (root partition) formatted XFS, but the kernel wasn't able to mount it... I am still wondering what to do... to boot with an older SuSE distro (8.2, 9.0), and to update the kernel somehow (there's plenty of updates available - that makes me wonder if that wasn't a "rush release" - I don't have any excuse for the SuSE team and I find NO explanation, whatsoever, for leaving the kernel without XFS support)

I had LOTS of other problems, (no XFS support, slab.c kernel panic, grub not installable, hunging at start, hunging at installation finish)

I am pretty upset and I feel like I have been let down by the SuSE team, I wasn't expecting such a mess from a German company

I CAN'T believe that nobody used XFS in the whole BETA team - it seems unbelievable!!!!

Same pbm here. Installed 9.1 with ReiserFS then when I tried to mount my /home (XFS) from my Mandrake 9.2 installation I got a seg fault. Had to reboot to MDK 9.2, transfer the data I needed to a temporary "compatible" space then reboot into 9.1...

I bought 9.1 pro for the supposed quality (being a long time Mandrake user, I know what a lack of QA can sometimes produce) but I must say I'm slightly disappointed. Except for the awesome YAST2 and the 9.1 pro packaging the rest of the distro is like Mandrake or not as good.

I also think that kernel 2.6.x is not as good (stable?) as kernel 2.24.20+ is. With both Suse 9.1 and MDK 10.0 my box has been unstable with sudden reboots. I don't get that (or a lot less) with MDK 9.2

/Fred

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Given the amount of errors I'm reading about 9.1 (and not planning to start a flame war, just asking). Is there any procedure to slipstream a 9.1 DVD starting from a Stock 9.1 DVD + all the available patches? may be interesting to install a 9.1 up-to-date from day one... don't you think so? I insist, I don't want to start a flame war regarding the stability or instability of 9.1 Pro... just asking if somebody ever slipstreamed a SuSE distro... regards, ===== Riccardo G. Facchini

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On Wednesday 12 May 2004 15:37, Riccardo Facchini wrote:

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Given the amount of errors I'm reading about 9.1 (and not planning to start a flame war, just asking). Is there any procedure to slipstream a 9.1 DVD starting from a Stock 9.1 DVD + all the available patches?

may be interesting to install a 9.1 up-to-date from day one... don't you think so?

While this is probably not exactly what you had in mind, YaST2 will offer you all available updates via YOU (YaST Online Update) during the initial

install. Of course, this needs a working internet connection.

Greetings from Bremen hartmut [snip]

Yes, but what I was thinking was to prepare 1 or 2 DVD at one location (where I have a fast line and a burner) and then being able to do an upgrade and/or fresh install at another location (where I don't have a fast line, nor a burner, and I do have 9 boxes to do). regards, ===== Riccardo G. Facchini

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Op woensdag 12 mei 2004 15:37, schreef Riccardo Facchini:

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Given the amount of errors I'm reading about 9.1 (and not planning to start a flame war, just asking). Is there any procedure to slipstream a 9.1 DVD starting from a Stock 9.1 DVD + all the available patches?

may be interesting to install a 9.1 up-to-date from day one... don't you think so?

I insist, I don't want to start a flame war regarding the stability or instability of 9.1 Pro... just asking if somebody ever slipstreamed a SuSE distro...

Setup your own repository, by copying the DVD/CDs to HD. Copy the updates and everything else into the same rpm repository. After that create the repository admin files with create_package_descr

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rpm -qf /usr/bin/create_package_descr autoyast2-utils-2.8.14-20

It's now possible to install suse from HD :)) Just the way you want it.

More about create_package_descr can be found here: http://www.suse.de/~nashif/autoinstall/

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Thanks, I'll try that. ===== Riccardo G. Facchini

Going back to original message, its fixed now. Had to delete the partitions and zero the label too. Did backup beforehand luckily (well I did...but managed to wipe that lol). Matt On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 01:10, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

* Radu Voicu [May 12. 2004 07:58]:

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I CAN'T believe that nobody used XFS in the whole BETA team - it seems unbelievable!!!!

Well, I did. I discovered the bug. But when such a bug is introduced very late in the process, and found too late wrt. shipping it, the only way for us to remedy is to provide an update.

-- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.

I'm not the judge of that, BUT I pull the alarm on that one since 24.04.2004 - the subject of the mail was: "KOTD 2.6.5.8-60 - Bad XFS module", I quote: "I've installed last night kernel-default-2.6.5-8.60.i586.rpm and I got kernel panic at xfs module - so I switched back to my "old" kernel-default-2.6.5-8.26 - I'm not blaming anyone, I thought that you should be aware of this" Only Örn Hansen responded and he said, I quote: "Recreate the initrd, and make sure the kernel module is there ... or, use the old initrd, it's the same kernel version, just a new build" - yeah, right! :)) Anyway, I have two proposals now for you, the SuSE team: 1. Maybe you should consider enlarging the Beta Team (I myself, I was trying to subscribe to the beta list, but nobody even bother to answer - this is not polite) :)) 2. Let us know when the workaround (another CD1 ISO image or any workaround) will be available for download - I have a couple of machines with XFS / partitions waiting for the upgrade :))) Thanks, Radu Thorsten Kukuk wrote:

On Thu, May 13, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

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* Radu Voicu [May 12. 2004 07:58]:

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I CAN'T believe that nobody used XFS in the whole BETA team - it seems unbelievable!!!!

Well, I did. I discovered the bug. But when such a bug is introduced very late in the process, and found too late wrt. shipping it, the only way for us to remedy is to provide an update.

To be more fair: The xfs bug itself was very old, but was hidden by another bug. Fixing the second bug in the last minute activates the xfs bug, which was found too late. At some point you cannot stop the process anymore.

Thorsten

At the same page (http://portal.suse.de/sdb/en/2004/04/91_xfsfix.html), it says, I quote: "Warning: This Driver Update works not for Systems that have XFS on the Root-Device (/). For XFS on root the whole kernel must be replaced. We are working on a solution for that." Where's the truth??? I don't want to do testing on my machines :))) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Bos" To: Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] DISSAPOINTING: Re: [SLE] SuSE 9.1, fails to read /dev/hda partitions...

Op vrijdag 14 mei 2004 11:02, schreef Radu Voicu:

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Let us know when the workaround (another CD1 ISO image or any workaround) will be available for download - I have a couple of machines with XFS / partitions waiting for the upgrade :)))

Radu,

did you see this one already: http://portal.suse.de/sdb/en/2004/04/91_xfsfix.html

If your computer is equipped with a floppy drive, download the floppy image xfs_hotfix.img and copy it to a floppy disk with the command dd. For further information on how to create a floppy disk refer to Creating Boot and Modules Floppy Disks Insert the floppy in your floppy drive immediately after booting from the first CD or DVD. The floppy disk installs a kernel hotfix that enables you to use XFS partitions with SUSE LINUX 9.1. Once the installation is completed, it is strongly recommended to install the latest update kernel by means of our on-line update tool YOU.

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