Hi Samy (et al), I am big net management specialist mostly advertising me-self as a perl engineer. The art of management is really achieving the balance of gut reaction with careful statistical analysis. To achieve this I created a perl OO dataserver which really holds complex structures of chunks of data, performace data goes in daily chuncks, configuration data is divided into boxes, devices, or if convienent, whole domains. I works suprisingly well since a single ineffiecent call is more efficient that a vast number single value calls; an OO db will use one, two, maybe a dozen calls. I scaled it to use performance data, fine tuned so many hugely expensive machines that it wrecked so many egos that I felt almost guilty, (not really :) Honestly, perl seems to have reached a point of diminishing returns. I am going to put finishing touches on my server, implement it in a production environment and then... Switch over to a product called Jasmine. Owned by Computer Associates, it will probably never be ported to Linux. But none-the-less, I am certain it was once its own startup, and their technology can very easily be replicated as that is the major strength of Java. Anyway, since you mentioned being beg-intermed in db's and interested in Java, I thought I would mention this to you. Also I an working on a startup business to create that elusive $200 thinclient, progress has been slow lately mostly because of perl problems and the flu. John van V. aka pres/chief bottle washer, CXN, Inc. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at <A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com"><A HREF="http://www.hotmail.com</A">http://www.hotmail.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>