* Oddball [12-12-10 12:15]:

If you want to use sendmail as your MTA you have to use Standard configuration.

What exactly does that mean?

iiuc, postfix is the normal install. If you want to use sendmail rather than the postfix provided "sendmail" (Postfix to Sendmail compatibility interface), you have to use the configuration provided by the sendmail package (vs postfix package) and hand edit the configuration. Sendmail that you see on normal openSUSE installations is provided to allow one to use other packages in a manner quite similar to the full sendmail package (vs postfix). -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Op 12-12-10 18:33, Oddball schreef:

Op 12-12-10 18:24, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

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* Oddball [12-12-10 12:15]:

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If you want to use sendmail as your MTA you have to use Standard configuration.

What exactly does that mean?

iiuc, postfix is the normal install. If you want to use sendmail rather than the postfix provided "sendmail" (Postfix to Sendmail compatibility interface), you have to use the configuration provided by the sendmail package (vs postfix package) and hand edit the configuration.

Sendmail that you see on normal openSUSE installations is provided to allow one to use other packages in a manner quite similar to the full sendmail package (vs postfix).

I need to be able to send mail from other machines, via the imap server, iiuc, to prevent having mail: received and sent scattered over many machines, and storage of all mail, in one place. I need to configure a mailserver, that sends the mail to the places the mail needs to be sent, is this correct? Then, if i would choose sendmail, instead of cyrus or what the other to be installed pkgs would provide, sendmail would handle this?

Please understand my confusion: Fetchmail works, i only have to make the command permanent with regular intervals. Procmail is installed, and had prepared maildirs. How to get the mail that fetchmail stores in /var/mymailbox, to the maildirs in the /home/maildir/mymailbox? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.34-12-desktop x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) KDE: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Oddball said the following on 12/12/2010 12:47 PM:

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Please understand my confusion: Fetchmail works, i only have to make the command permanent with regular intervals. Procmail is installed, and had prepared maildirs. How to get the mail that fetchmail stores in /var/mymailbox, to the maildirs in the /home/maildir/mymailbox?

I think you are terribly confused about the roles of the various components here and how they pass information from one to another. 'fetchail' should pipe though postfix and postfix should then use procmail for local delivery. I also use procmail for spam filtering DO NOT USE 'sendmail' Postfix is so easy to configure and sendmail is a buqqer! I say that as someone who has use many mail systems over the last 30 years. All the details for configuring are in how-tos you can google for. But remember: 1. Postfix is a MTA - Mail TRANSFER Agent 2. IMAP is a mailbox access tool 3. Procmail is a local delivery rule agent fetchmail feeds into postfix feeds into procmail feeds into your mailbox In /etc/postfix/main.cf you want mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN In your .procmailrc you want MAILDIR=/$HOME/Maildir/IMAP/ # This is the home of the mail store DEFAULT=/$HOME/Maildir/INBOX # Inbox substitute: tell where to put # the mail You will also have to over-ride the IMAP server's idea of where the INBOX is, and that will depend on which server you use. Or you could do it in thunderbird :-) There are many variations on all of this, but until you are more experienced I'd strongly advise keeping it simple As I said there are many good examples on-line if you google for them. Here is one with explanations: http://userpages.umbc.edu/~ian/procmail.html Here is the one on using spamassassin http://userpages.umbc.edu/~ian/procmail.html I repeat, DO NOT USE sendmail -- The scientific name for an animal that doesn't either run from or fight its enemies is lunch. - Michael Friedman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Op 12-12-10 18:58, Patrick Shanahan schreef:

* Oddball [12-12-10 12:50]:

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Fetchmail works, i only have to make the command permanent with regular intervals. Procmail is installed, and had prepared maildirs. How to get the mail that fetchmail stores in /var/mymailbox, to the maildirs in the /home/maildir/mymailbox?

hand off the mail that fetchmail obtains to procmail instead of delivering it to /var/mymailbox.

poll imap.gmail.com tracepolls with proto IMAP timeout 45 user '<user-name>@gmail.com' there with password '<password>' is '<useer>' here options fetchall stripcr ssl sslcertck mda '/usr/bin/procmail'

then configure procmail to deliver it to local mailboxes

DEFAULT="/home/<user>/mail/INBOX/" ## for maildir ## remove trailing "/" for mbox

Thnx patrick, sorry for the late respons: your mail was in junkbox... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.34-12-desktop x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) KDE: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [12-12-10 14:03]:

* Oddball [12-12-10 13:56]:

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mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN < Do i write this, or is it something i have to fill in with something?

this is completely wrong!

It is me that is wrong, sorry! -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Oddball said the following on 12/12/2010 01:54 PM

mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN < Do i write this, or is it something i have to fill in with something?

Read the postfix config file - you will find it -- A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity. -- _The Science of Discworld_ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Op 12-12-10 20:29, Anton Aylward schreef:

Oddball said the following on 12/12/2010 01:54 PM

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mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -Y -a $DOMAIN < Do i write this, or is it something i have to fill in with something?

Read the postfix config file - you will find it

Thnx, i will, thnx for the help, my time is up again for today :-( Have to split.... c ya all l8r.. -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.34-12-desktop x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) KDE: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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there is always, trial-and-error.

I have: mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0FbLwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UAJACfdXNRMmUeRT/2QLUmw9jcY+88 RxoAn35EF+j49Q1CCPOLtvSMEgCbCEvI =NmkN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Op 12-12-10 20:46, Anton Aylward schreef:

http://www.jennings.homelinux.net/mailserver_config.html

http://steveyoung.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/17/

Good flow diagram http://www.hypexr.org/linux_mail_server.php

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/get-started-fetchmail-procmail-and-dovecot

Go google some more and learn the basics. Like they say on X-Files: "The Truth is out there" Don't make us do the work for you.

If you have the feeling you have to my work, you know nothing about my work... ;-) I would never force someone to do my work..... Setting up a mailserver i do not see as work, more as something after work.... But if you feel like you are forced by me to do my work, simply do not respond to my mail.... On the other hand, who is us? I am very busy getting an awfull lot of physical work done, and have simply not much time for my hobby, like now with this mailserver, I get up at 5:45, and go to bed at 22:15, and when i am lucky, i have been sitting doing nothing and drink tea for five or six minutes.... I learn something, and solve a problem at the same time, and as i said, i only have little time.. Today i just had the time to answer the mail, have to travel and work after supper, until 21:45 - 22:00, when i am lucky.... but that is not your problem... BTW, i am no kid, i am 54, and have a wife and 2 grownup sons.. the little time i have for this, i am using to look for written documents, but many do not apply.. I think it is not a big deal for guys like you to point me in the right direction... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...) OS: Linux 2.6.34-12-desktop x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) KDE: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Oddball said the following on 12/13/2010 12:13 PM:

BTW, i am no kid, i am 54, and have a wife and 2 grownup sons..

Oh wow! A youngster. Patrick and myself seem to collect them :-)

the little time i have for this, i am using to look for written documents, but many do not apply..

I have shelves and shelves of them hat do not apply, afer all, who uses 12 bit, 18 bit, 19 bit, 24 bit, and 60 bit machines these days? Its why I use Google instead.

I think it is not a big deal for guys like you to point me in the right direction...

We have. Google is our friend. It can be yours as well. -- "It seemed to me," said Wonko the Sane, "that any civilization that had so far lost its head as to need to include a set of detailed instructions for use in a package of toothpicks, was no longer a civilization in which I could live and stay sane." -- Douglas Adams' _So Long, And Thanks For All The Fish_ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org