(Non-free) multimedia support in boxed Suse 10.0
My friend asked me about (non-free) multimedia support in "boxed" Suse 10.0: "Can you do me a favor and ask if the codecs are in the box set, also I would like to know if the codecs (all of them, I want full mm support) are only in RealPlayer or if they are actually available to better programs like Xine or mplayer and Juk. If SUSE has all the codecs in the boxed set then that's brilliant, it would also justify buying a box..." I know this has been discussed several times before (and that this mailing list is about OpenSuse..), but I do not know where else to ask. I tried to search mail-archive, but it left me still confused about this. Does anybody know if non-free multimedia support in boxed set is only through Realplayer?? Only Realplayer is mentioned in Suse 10.0 product information: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/commercial.html -Jukka
On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 10:30:35PM +0300, Jukka wrote:
My friend asked me about (non-free) multimedia support in "boxed" Suse 10.0:
"Can you do me a favor and ask if the codecs are in the box set, also I would like to know if the codecs (all of them, I want full mm support) are only in RealPlayer or if they are actually available to better programs like Xine or mplayer and Juk. If SUSE has all the codecs in the boxed set then that's brilliant, it would also justify buying a box..."
I know this has been discussed several times before (and that this mailing list is about OpenSuse..), but I do not know where else to ask. I tried to search mail-archive, but it left me still confused about this. Does anybody know if non-free multimedia support in boxed set is only through Realplayer?? Only Realplayer is mentioned in Suse 10.0 product information: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/commercial.html
The MP3 support you probably mean is only supplied by RealPlayer, like said dozens of times already. The free OGG format support is of course everywhere. :) Ciao, Marcus
Jukka wrote:
My friend asked me about (non-free) multimedia support in "boxed" Suse 10.0:
"Can you do me a favor and ask if the codecs are in the box set, also I would like to know if the codecs (all of them, I want full mm support) are only in RealPlayer or if they are actually available to better programs like Xine or mplayer and Juk. If SUSE has all the codecs in the boxed set then that's brilliant, it would also justify buying a box..."
I know this has been discussed several times before (and that this mailing list is about OpenSuse..), but I do not know where else to ask. I tried to search mail-archive, but it left me still confused about this. Does anybody know if non-free multimedia support in boxed set is only through Realplayer?? Only Realplayer is mentioned in Suse 10.0 product information: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/commercial.html
I installed the boxed set on my laptop. When I tried to view a wmv file (windows multimedia video) using xine, I got the error message that says I don't have all the codecs. I'm quite disappointed since some of the media hype talked about "out of the box" multimedia support. But I suppose they may have been talking about Real Player. It's still a bit of a catch, though. -- Donald D. Henson, Managing Director West El Paso Information Network The "Non-Initiation of Force Principle" Rules
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I installed the boxed set on my laptop. When I tried to view a wmv file (windows multimedia video) using xine, I got the error message that says I don't have all the codecs. I'm quite disappointed since some of the media hype talked about "out of the box" multimedia support. But I
Please get informed about what patents, proprietary formats and the likes are before bashing. WMV is a proprietary, non-disclosed format from Microsoft, which means that noone can make a codec for it except Microsoft themselves. The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
suppose they may have been talking about Real Player. It's still a bit of a catch, though.
"Out-of-the-box multimedia support" applies to MP3, MPEG*, etc... (and obviously Ogg and Theora) but
certainly not to Microsoft-only formats that, by definition, are not available to non-Microsoft systems.
cheers
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Søndag 16 oktober 2005 01:00, skrev Pascal Bleser:
Donald D Henson wrote: ...
I installed the boxed set on my laptop. When I tried to view a wmv file (windows multimedia video) using xine, I got the error message that says I don't have all the codecs. I'm quite disappointed since some of the media hype talked about "out of the box" multimedia support. But I
Please get informed about what patents, proprietary formats and the likes are before bashing. WMV is a proprietary, non-disclosed format from Microsoft, which means that noone can make a codec for it except Microsoft themselves.
The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
suppose they may have been talking about Real Player. It's still a bit of a catch, though.
"Out-of-the-box multimedia support" applies to MP3, MPEG*, etc... (and obviously Ogg and Theora) but certainly not to Microsoft-only formats that, by definition, are not available to non-Microsoft systems.
cheers
Right on Pascal! but with using some trickery you can make them (w32codecs) work on a x86_64 install aswell. Iznogood
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 03:10:43AM +0200, Iznogood took 42 lines to write:
Søndag 16 oktober 2005 01:00, skrev Pascal Bleser:
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The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
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but with using some trickery you can make them (w32codecs) work on a x86_64 install aswell.
Where might I find this trickery so that I can attempt it myself? I've got w32codecs-all installed, but I still get errors about unsupported/missing codecs when I try to play WMVs on my Opteron. Thanks, Kurt -- Do something unusual today. Pay a bill.
El Domingo, 16 de Octubre de 2005 03:16, Kurt Wall escribió:
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 03:10:43AM +0200, Iznogood took 42 lines to write:
Søndag 16 oktober 2005 01:00, skrev Pascal Bleser:
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The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
look here ftp://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/10.0/ good luck jorge
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but with using some trickery you can make them (w32codecs) work on a x86_64 install aswell.
Where might I find this trickery so that I can attempt it myself? I've got w32codecs-all installed, but I still get errors about unsupported/missing codecs when I try to play WMVs on my Opteron.
Thanks,
Kurt
Søndag 16 oktober 2005 03:16, skrev Kurt Wall:
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 03:10:43AM +0200, Iznogood took 42 lines to write:
Søndag 16 oktober 2005 01:00, skrev Pascal Bleser:
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The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
[...]
but with using some trickery you can make them (w32codecs) work on a x86_64 install aswell.
Where might I find this trickery so that I can attempt it myself? I've got w32codecs-all installed, but I still get errors about unsupported/missing codecs when I try to play WMVs on my Opteron.
Thanks,
Kurt
http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=22021&hl= Iz
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 03:45:02AM +0200, Iznogood took 33 lines to write:
Søndag 16 oktober 2005 03:16, skrev Kurt Wall:
[whither a HOWTO for playing WMV on x86_64]
http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=22021&hl=
Thanks very much. Kurt -- Basic, n.: A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in that those who have it will not admit it in polite company.
Please get informed about what patents, proprietary formats and the likes are before bashing. WMV is a proprietary, non-disclosed format from Microsoft, which means that noone can make a codec for it except Microsoft themselves.
The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
Is there any way these codecs can be made to work on 64 bit SUSE 10 ?
On Sunday 16 October 2005 03:01 am, michael norman wrote:
Please get informed about what patents, proprietary formats and the likes are before bashing. WMV is a proprietary, non-disclosed format from Microsoft, which means that noone can make a codec for it except Microsoft themselves.
The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
Is there any way these codecs can be made to work on 64 bit SUSE 10 ?
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Sure there is, but it requires using the 32-bit version of the players to get them to work presently. Until there are converted 64-bit codecs available, there is not many alternatives. Lee
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 08:01:34AM +0100, michael norman took 17 lines to write:
Please get informed about what patents, proprietary formats and the likes are before bashing. WMV is a proprietary, non-disclosed format from Microsoft, which means that noone can make a codec for it except Microsoft themselves.
The only way to read those on Linux is to install the "w32codecs-all" package from Packman. Those are the MS Windows codecs and, hence, only work on 32bit Linux (using some trickery but that's hidden from you by MPlayer and Xine).
Is there any way these codecs can be made to work on 64 bit SUSE 10 ?
http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=22021&hl= Kurt -- Stupid, n.: Losing $25 on the game and $25 on the instant replay.
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BandiPat -
Donald D Henson -
Iznogood -
Jorge Luis Arzola -
Jukka -
Kurt Wall -
Marcus Meissner -
michael norman -
Pascal Bleser