[oS-EN] I have finished with KDE/Plasma/X11
Hi, My testing of KDE/Plasma/X11 has been terminated. I noticed some weird behaviour. Firefox not loading a page, then ctrl-alt-tab displaying a black rectangle, and finally, KDE stopped reacting to mouse and keyboard. The mouse moved, but I could do nothing with it. I had to ctrl-alt-backspace it. And this has happened twice. After some days with the same session, it dies. I can not work with this, so I'm back to XFCE. I really did like some of KDE features, but not at this price. I'm sorry. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On 2023-11-09 15:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
My testing of KDE/Plasma/X11 has been terminated.
I noticed some weird behaviour. Firefox not loading a page, then ctrl-alt-tab displaying a black rectangle, and finally, KDE stopped reacting to mouse and keyboard. The mouse moved, but I could do nothing with it.
I had to ctrl-alt-backspace it.
And this has happened twice. After some days with the same session, it dies.
I can not work with this, so I'm back to XFCE. I really did like some of KDE features, but not at this price.
I'm sorry.
Have you applied the latest updates? I was having similar issues (black rectangles all over the place; mouse/keyboard no issues though) until I did the update 2 days ago. All seems back the way it should be now.
On 2023-11-09 22:11, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2023-11-09 15:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
I'm sorry.
Have you applied the latest updates? I was having similar issues (black rectangles all over the place; mouse/keyboard no issues though) until I did the update 2 days ago. All seems back the way it should be now.
All updates were applied, yes. This is Leap 15.5. And I normally reboot after updates, or relogin, till "zypper ps" shows clear. I just got now something related to xfce4 panel and google chrome, so applied and rebooted, to make sure no KDE services were lingering (XFCE was showing messages in the middle of the display, instead of bottom right. Something was not right). The desktop just did a black rectangle when trying to ctrl-alt-tab to another window, then it locked. I should have recognized it and closed the session orderly right then. It had been working perfectly for days, but then it locked. I had to kill the session, so applications with open files were killed, lost data. And this has happened twice. I interpret this to mean that every few days the session will lock and crash. Not acceptable. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
Am 09.11.23 um 22:20 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2023-11-09 22:11, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2023-11-09 15:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
I'm sorry.
Have you applied the latest updates? I was having similar issues (black rectangles all over the place; mouse/keyboard no issues though) until I did the update 2 days ago. All seems back the way it should be now.
All updates were applied, yes. This is Leap 15.5. And I normally reboot after updates, or relogin, till "zypper ps" shows clear.
I just got now something related to xfce4 panel and google chrome, so applied and rebooted, to make sure no KDE services were lingering (XFCE was showing messages in the middle of the display, instead of bottom right. Something was not right).
The desktop just did a black rectangle when trying to ctrl-alt-tab to another window, then it locked. I should have recognized it and closed the session orderly right then. It had been working perfectly for days, but then it locked. I had to kill the session, so applications with open files were killed, lost data.
And this has happened twice.
I interpret this to mean that every few days the session will lock and crash. Not acceptable.
I am on tumbleweed and kde works fine for me, since long time no problem. it could be related to the gpu acceleration, i remember i switched off someting (i also do not need all this fancy stuff on my desktop) systemsettings display and monitor composer -> disable the "enable on startup" -> enable "allow applications to block composing" at the moment i am wondering a little bit, i remember here where before also some settings for the composer, opengl or what ever i liked to use. i do not know where these settings now are. (here its x11 and kde tumbleweed on a amd gpu) in internet i see from 2020 soemting with more settings, if somebody has a idee where these settings now are would be nice. simoN -- www.becherer.de
Hi carlos, hi raven, sorry, still private mail, have made a mail to: users-owner@lists.opensuse.org at 07.11. but i get no answer and still my mails will not be displayd on the users@lists.opensuse.org have you a idea where to ask / who could solve the problem here my answer to your mail simoN Am 09.11.23 um 22:20 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2023-11-09 22:11, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2023-11-09 15:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
I'm sorry.
Have you applied the latest updates? I was having similar issues (black rectangles all over the place; mouse/keyboard no issues though) until I did the update 2 days ago. All seems back the way it should be now.
All updates were applied, yes. This is Leap 15.5. And I normally reboot after updates, or relogin, till "zypper ps" shows clear.
I just got now something related to xfce4 panel and google chrome, so applied and rebooted, to make sure no KDE services were lingering (XFCE was showing messages in the middle of the display, instead of bottom right. Something was not right).
The desktop just did a black rectangle when trying to ctrl-alt-tab to another window, then it locked. I should have recognized it and closed the session orderly right then. It had been working perfectly for days, but then it locked. I had to kill the session, so applications with open files were killed, lost data.
And this has happened twice.
I interpret this to mean that every few days the session will lock and crash. Not acceptable.
I am on tumbleweed and kde works fine for me, since long time no problem. it could be related to the gpu acceleration, i remember i switched off someting (i also do not need all this fancy stuff on my desktop) systemsettings display and monitor composer -> disable the "enable on startup" -> enable "allow applications to block composing" at the moment i am wondering a little bit, i remember here where before also some settings for the composer, opengl or what ever i liked to use. i do not know where these settings now are. (here its x11 and kde tumbleweed on a amd gpu) in internet i see from 2020 soemting with more settings, if somebody has a idee where these settings now are would be nice. simoN -- www.becherer.de
On 2023-11-10 08:23, Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi carlos, hi raven, sorry, still private mail,
have made a mail to:
users-owner@lists.opensuse.org at 07.11. but i get no answer and still my mails will not be displayd on the users@lists.opensuse.org
have you a idea where to ask / who could solve the problem
You have three ways. You could email "owner@lists.opensuse.org". You could email "admin@opensuse.org" Or you can contact the admins using IRC (server "irc.libera.chat", port 6697, using SSL, authenticate with SASL if used (you do not need to authenticate unless you register your name, IIRC) room "#opensuse-admin". Here you can contact directly the admins, if they happen to be at the room when you speak (it is real time). https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:IRC_for_newbies https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:IRC_rules https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:IRC_list
here my answer to your mail
Am 09.11.23 um 22:20 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2023-11-09 22:11, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2023-11-09 15:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
I am on tumbleweed and kde works fine for me, since long time no problem. it could be related to the gpu acceleration, i remember i switched off someting (i also do not need all this fancy stuff on my desktop) systemsettings display and monitor composer -> disable the "enable on startup" -> enable "allow applications to block composing"
Maybe. I did see errors on the log related to amdgpu. The crash happened here: 2023-11-09T21:55:42.341372+01:00 Laicolasse plasmashell[17420]: Could not find the Plasmoid for Plasma::FrameSvgItem(0x5578593f5d70) QQmlContext(0x557856658750) QUrl("file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.notifications/contents/ui/global/Globals.qml") 2023-11-09T21:56:23.553227+01:00 Laicolasse auth: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file 2023-11-09T21:56:23.553658+01:00 Laicolasse auth: gkr-pam: stashed password to try later in open session 2023-11-09T21:56:23.553744+01:00 Laicolasse auth: pam_kwallet5(dovecot:auth): pam_kwallet5: pam_sm_authenticate 2023-11-09T21:58:12.048344+01:00 Laicolasse python3[17617]: The X11 <========= connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.050087+01:00 Laicolasse kglobalaccel5[17411]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.050758+01:00 Laicolasse kwalletd5[17052]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.051012+01:00 Laicolasse kded5[17323]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.052742+01:00 Laicolasse ksmserver[17321]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.058584+01:00 Laicolasse systemd[17027]: xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE Some apps continued running, I heard the bell from a message arriving. But display stopped. no amdgpu messages before that.
at the moment i am wondering a little bit, i remember here where before also some settings for the composer, opengl or what ever i liked to use. i do not know where these settings now are. (here its x11 and kde tumbleweed on a amd gpu) in internet i see from 2020 soemting with more settings, if somebody has a idee where these settings now are would be nice.
simoN
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:01:52 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:
On 2023-11-10 08:23, Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi carlos, hi raven, sorry, still private mail,
have made a mail to:
users-owner@lists.opensuse.org at 07.11. but i get no answer and still my mails will not be displayd on the users@lists.opensuse.org
have you a idea where to ask / who could solve the problem
You have three ways.
There's a fourth way that is the way that is suggested in every email sent by the list! List-Help: <mailto:users-request@lists.opensuse.org?subject=help>
You could email "owner@lists.opensuse.org".
You could email "admin@opensuse.org"
Or you can contact the admins using IRC (server "irc.libera.chat", port 6697, using SSL, authenticate with SASL if used (you do not need to authenticate unless you register your name, IIRC) room "#opensuse-admin". Here you can contact directly the admins, if they happen to be at the room when you speak (it is real time).
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:IRC_for_newbies https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:IRC_rules https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:IRC_list
here my answer to your mail
Am 09.11.23 um 22:20 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2023-11-09 22:11, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 2023-11-09 15:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
I am on tumbleweed and kde works fine for me, since long time no problem. it could be related to the gpu acceleration, i remember i switched off someting (i also do not need all this fancy stuff on my desktop) systemsettings display and monitor composer -> disable the "enable on startup" -> enable "allow applications to block composing"
Maybe.
I did see errors on the log related to amdgpu.
The crash happened here:
2023-11-09T21:55:42.341372+01:00 Laicolasse plasmashell[17420]: Could not find the Plasmoid for Plasma::FrameSvgItem(0x5578593f5d70) QQmlContext(0x557856658750) QUrl("file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.notifications/contents/ui/global/Globals.qml") 2023-11-09T21:56:23.553227+01:00 Laicolasse auth: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file 2023-11-09T21:56:23.553658+01:00 Laicolasse auth: gkr-pam: stashed password to try later in open session 2023-11-09T21:56:23.553744+01:00 Laicolasse auth: pam_kwallet5(dovecot:auth): pam_kwallet5: pam_sm_authenticate 2023-11-09T21:58:12.048344+01:00 Laicolasse python3[17617]: The X11
<=========
connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.050087+01:00 Laicolasse kglobalaccel5[17411]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.050758+01:00 Laicolasse kwalletd5[17052]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.051012+01:00 Laicolasse kded5[17323]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.052742+01:00 Laicolasse ksmserver[17321]: The X11 connection broke (error 1). Did the X11 server die? 2023-11-09T21:58:12.058584+01:00 Laicolasse systemd[17027]: xdg-desktop-portal-gnome.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Some apps continued running, I heard the bell from a message arriving. But display stopped.
no amdgpu messages before that.
at the moment i am wondering a little bit, i remember here where before also some settings for the composer, opengl or what ever i liked to use. i do not know where these settings now are. (here its x11 and kde tumbleweed on a amd gpu) in internet i see from 2020 soemting with more settings, if somebody has a idee where these settings now are would be nice.
simoN
On 2023-11-10 13:34, Dave Howorth wrote: Arrived here 2023-12-04
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:01:52 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <...> wrote:
On 2023-11-10 08:23, Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi carlos, hi raven, sorry, still private mail,
have made a mail to:
users-owner@lists.opensuse.org at 07.11. but i get no answer and still my mails will not be displayd on the users@lists.opensuse.org
have you a idea where to ask / who could solve the problem
You have three ways.
There's a fourth way that is the way that is suggested in every email sent by the list!
List-Help: <mailto:users-request@lists.opensuse.org?subject=help>
No, that only returns an automatic help text, it contacts no human. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On Mon, 4 Dec 2023 19:20:07 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-11-10 13:34, Dave Howorth wrote:
Arrived here 2023-12-04
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 13:01:52 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <...> wrote:
On 2023-11-10 08:23, Simon Becherer wrote:
Hi carlos, hi raven, sorry, still private mail,
have made a mail to:
users-owner@lists.opensuse.org at 07.11. but i get no answer and
Yeah. There is simply not enough hours in the day. For such errors, it is often best to open a ticket. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-1.0°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes
On 11/9/23 15:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
My testing of KDE/Plasma/X11 has been terminated.
I noticed some weird behaviour. Firefox not loading a page, then ctrl-alt-tab displaying a black rectangle, and finally, KDE stopped reacting to mouse and keyboard. The mouse moved, but I could do nothing with it.
I had to ctrl-alt-backspace it.
And this has happened twice. After some days with the same session, it dies.
I can not work with this, so I'm back to XFCE. I really did like some of KDE features, but not at this price.
I'm sorry.
Duh.... You installed the wrong KDE. My laptop runs until kernel updates require a reboot. Never any issues (except those nits we've known about for decades :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [12-04-23 09:41]:
On 11/9/23 15:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
My testing of KDE/Plasma/X11 has been terminated.
I noticed some weird behaviour. Firefox not loading a page, then ctrl-alt-tab displaying a black rectangle, and finally, KDE stopped reacting to mouse and keyboard. The mouse moved, but I could do nothing with it.
I had to ctrl-alt-backspace it.
And this has happened twice. After some days with the same session, it dies.
I can not work with this, so I'm back to XFCE. I really did like some of KDE features, but not at this price.
I'm sorry.
Duh....
You installed the wrong KDE. My laptop runs until kernel updates require a reboot. Never any issues (except those nits we've known about for decades :)
nor does my collection of boxes with current kde/plasma :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
participants (7)
-
Carlos E. R. -
Darryl Gregorash -
Dave Howorth -
David C. Rankin -
Patrick Shanahan -
Per Jessen -
Simon Becherer