A while ago, I posted here about some YouTube videos that were shaky. I soon discovered they were shaky in Firefox, wouldn't play at all in Chromium and played smoothly on Edge. This was on a Gigabyte mom board and I was able to resolve the problem by installing Pacman. I have since moved on to a refurb Dell 7060 and the problem is back. However, this time, Pacman killed the video entirely and it took me a lot of effort to get it back. Is there some YouTube format that's causing this problem? It only happens on some videos and most play fine. Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s I'm running openSUSE 15.6 & KDE. tnx jk
James Knott composed on 2024-11-08 12:53 (UTC-0500):
A while ago, I posted here about some YouTube videos that were shaky. I soon discovered they were shaky in Firefox, wouldn't play at all in Chromium and played smoothly on Edge. This was on a Gigabyte mom board and I was able to resolve the problem by installing Pacman. I have since moved on to a refurb Dell 7060 and the problem is back. However, this time, Pacman killed the video entirely and it took me a lot of effort to get it back. Is there some YouTube format that's causing this problem? It only happens on some videos and most play fine.
Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s
Played fine after first several seconds in Chromium in 15.5 KDE3 on i3-7100T CPU/Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2).
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On 11/8/24 13:11, Felix Miata wrote:
Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s Played fine after first several seconds in Chromium in 15.5 KDE3 on i3-7100T CPU/Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2).
Those videos also play fine on my ThinkPad, so the problem appears to be hardware sensitive. BTW, I believe I'm on KDE 4 or whatever the default is on 15.6.
On 11/8/24 10:25, James Knott wrote:
On 11/8/24 13:11, Felix Miata wrote:
Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s Played fine after first several seconds in Chromium in 15.5 KDE3 on i3-7100T CPU/Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2).
Those videos also play fine on my ThinkPad, so the problem appears to be hardware sensitive.
BTW, I believe I'm on KDE 4 or whatever the default is on 15.6.
For the record, they play fine here on Firefox and Chrome with Leap 15.6, KDE, and Packman. Graphics: Device-1: Intel CoffeeLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630] driver: i915 v: kernel Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080 API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.3.4 renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 630 (CFL GT2) Regards, Lew
Hi James, have a look if "gfx.webrender.all" and "media.hardware-video-decoding.enabled" are both set to "true" in about:config. If not set them, restart firefox and try it again. Greetings, Simon On 08.11.24 18:53, James Knott wrote:
A while ago, I posted here about some YouTube videos that were shaky. I soon discovered they were shaky in Firefox, wouldn't play at all in Chromium and played smoothly on Edge. This was on a Gigabyte mom board and I was able to resolve the problem by installing Pacman. I have since moved on to a refurb Dell 7060 and the problem is back. However, this time, Pacman killed the video entirely and it took me a lot of effort to get it back. Is there some YouTube format that's causing this problem? It only happens on some videos and most play fine.
Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s
I'm running openSUSE 15.6 & KDE.
tnx jk
On 11/8/24 14:13, Simon Heimbach wrote:
have a look if "gfx.webrender.all" and "media.hardware-video-decoding.enabled" are both set to "true" in about:config. If not set them, restart firefox and try it again.
On the old computer with the Gigabyte mom board gfx.webrender.all was false and I set it to true. I'll have to check the Dell later. tnx
On 2024-11-08 18:53, James Knott wrote:
A while ago, I posted here about some YouTube videos that were shaky. I soon discovered they were shaky in Firefox, wouldn't play at all in Chromium and played smoothly on Edge. This was on a Gigabyte mom board and I was able to resolve the problem by installing Pacman. I have since moved on to a refurb Dell 7060 and the problem is back. However, this time, Pacman killed the video entirely and it took me a lot of effort to get it back. Is there some YouTube format that's causing this problem? It only happens on some videos and most play fine.
Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s
This sample plays fine in my laptop, with ample power (AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5875U with Radeon Graphics). I did not play it all, just a bit. Firefox on Leap 15.5 with packman switch. I do remember observing videos of locomotives passing by being a bit jerky in several computers, for years. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.5 (Laicolasse))
On 11/8/24 11:53 AM, James Knott wrote:
Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s
Doesn't play at all on Tumbleweed in Firefox. Just sits there buffering as CPU goes to 100%. What an ugly cell phone :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
In data venerdì 8 novembre 2024 23:34:44 Ora standard dell’Europa centrale, James Knott ha scritto:
On 11/8/24 17:30, David C. Rankin wrote:
Doesn't play at all on Tumbleweed in Firefox. Just sits there buffering as CPU goes to 100%.
So, what is it about these videos that causes them to not play properly or at all?
BTW, forgot to mention I'm on Leap. I suspect it is the graphics card. This video plays well on my machine with firefox and tumbleweed.
Operating System: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20241107 KDE Plasma Version: 6.2.3 KDE Frameworks Version: 6.7.0 Qt Version: 6.8.0 Kernel Version: 6.11.6-2-default (64-bit) Graphics Platform: X11 Processors: 12 × AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics Memory: 62.2 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon Pro W5500 Product Name: X570 Phantom Gaming 4 with this setup the video plays flawlessly (codecs from Packman installed). AMD free graphics driver from the repos.
On 11/8/24 4:40 PM, Stakanov via openSUSE Users wrote:
I suspect it is the graphics card. This video plays well on my machine with firefox and tumbleweed.
Good to hear. But so much for web-streams being hardware agnostic. Likely a hardware driver issue. I'm stuck with the Nvidia 390.xx driver, so that is one that won't work for sure. It doesn't support Vulkan - so if that video depends on Vulkan support (if that is even a thing), then that may be one reason why it will not play here. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 11/8/24 4:49 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 11/8/24 4:40 PM, Stakanov via openSUSE Users wrote:
I suspect it is the graphics card. This video plays well on my machine with firefox and tumbleweed.
Good to hear. But so much for web-streams being hardware agnostic. Likely a hardware driver issue. I'm stuck with the Nvidia 390.xx driver, so that is one that won't work for sure. It doesn't support Vulkan - so if that video depends on Vulkan support (if that is even a thing), then that may be one reason why it will not play here.
More data, Just tried the video on an old Core2Duo running Arch and it plays fine. (using on-chip intel graphics). So it is definitely graphics hardware or driver related. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 11/8/24 4:34 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 11/8/24 17:30, David C. Rankin wrote:
Doesn't play at all on Tumbleweed in Firefox. Just sits there buffering as CPU goes to 100%.
So, what is it about these videos that causes them to not play properly or at all?
BTW, forgot to mention I'm on Leap.
I'll have to go figure out how to tell what type video stream and format that is. I watch plenty of video, and this was the first I've had trouble with -- so there is something about that video itself. I don't know if videos have country-code built in, or if they check the web browser string an won't play on some (like gecko, etc). I'll try changing the browser string and see if that makes a difference. I'm on an old i7 with Nvidia, never had issue hardware rendering. I tried Simon's suggestions, "gfx.webrender.all", was originally false, and change to true and restarted -- made no difference. (switched it back) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
In data venerdì 8 novembre 2024 23:44:26 Ora standard dell’Europa centrale, David C. Rankin ha scritto:
I don't know if videos have country-code built in, or if they check the web browser string an won't play on some (like gecko, etc). I'll try changing the browser string and see if that makes a difference.
I can exclude this. I am using a personalized string and I am on a VPN that does actually has a completely other country code than yours. So both should not be involved. Need for hardware compression of the codec maybe.
Op vrijdag 8 november 2024 23:30:27 Midden-Europese standaardtijd schreef David C. Rankin:
On 11/8/24 11:53 AM, James Knott wrote:
Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s
Doesn't play at all on Tumbleweed in Firefox. Just sits there buffering as CPU goes to 100%.
What an ugly cell phone :) Just tried, plays fine on TW+Firefox
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I may have accidentally fixed the problem. This Dell computer has only display port video and my monitor and KVM switch are HDMI only. I just swapped the display port - HDMI adapter and the problem seems to have cleared. I'll have to watch to make sure it's fixed. tnx jk On 11/8/24 12:53, James Knott wrote:
A while ago, I posted here about some YouTube videos that were shaky. I soon discovered they were shaky in Firefox, wouldn't play at all in Chromium and played smoothly on Edge. This was on a Gigabyte mom board and I was able to resolve the problem by installing Pacman. I have since moved on to a refurb Dell 7060 and the problem is back. However, this time, Pacman killed the video entirely and it took me a lot of effort to get it back. Is there some YouTube format that's causing this problem? It only happens on some videos and most play fine.
Here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueTzJAW1kU&t=196s
I'm running openSUSE 15.6 & KDE.
tnx jk
On 11/9/24 13:47, James Knott wrote:
I may have accidentally fixed the problem. This Dell computer has only display port video and my monitor and KVM switch are HDMI only. I just swapped the display port - HDMI adapter and the problem seems to have cleared. I'll have to watch to make sure it's fixed.
Not quite. I went back to the original problem video and it's still happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf26MpGr1x4 Also, both gfx.webrender.all" and "media.hardware-video-decoding.enabled are now true, but the problem remains on the Dell computer.
On 11/9/24 4:16 PM, James Knott wrote:
On 11/9/24 13:47, James Knott wrote:
I may have accidentally fixed the problem. This Dell computer has only display port video and my monitor and KVM switch are HDMI only. I just swapped the display port - HDMI adapter and the problem seems to have cleared. I'll have to watch to make sure it's fixed.
Not quite. I went back to the original problem video and it's still happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf26MpGr1x4
Also, both gfx.webrender.all" and "media.hardware-video-decoding.enabled are now true, but the problem remains on the Dell computer.
I played with this a bit more and found this seems hardware/driver related. My laptop will not play it at all with i7/Nvida Quadro 3000, but I have an old Dell box with Core2Duo (E8600) with built-in intel graphics and it plays the video just fine. When I checked about:config in Tbird, I originally had: gfx.webrender.all (false) media.hardware-video-decoding.enabled (true) and changed gfx.webrender.all (true) - it made no difference. What is the graphics setup on your Dell box? 'inxi -Ga' ? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 11/10/24 01:29, David C. Rankin wrote:
When I checked about:config in Tbird, I originally had:
gfx.webrender.all (false) media.hardware-video-decoding.enabled (true)
and changed gfx.webrender.all (true) - it made no difference.
Same here.
What is the graphics setup on your Dell box? 'inxi -Ga' ?
Graphics: Device-1: Intel CoffeeLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630] vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9.5 process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20 ports: active: HDMI-A-2 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-3 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:3e92 class-ID: 0300 Device-2: Logitech Webcam C270 driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-12:14 chip-ID: 046d:0825 class-ID: 0102 serial: 83D45B60 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93") Monitor-1: HDMI-A-2 mapped: HDMI-2 model: ASUS VP247 serial: H9LMTF107402 built: 2017 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 94 gamma: 1.2 size: 521x293mm (20.51x11.54") diag: 598mm (23.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400 API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.3.4 renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 630 (CFL GT2) direct-render: Yes
On 11/10/24 01:29, David C. Rankin wrote:
What is the graphics setup on your Dell box? 'inxi -Ga' ?
Here is the Gigabyte mom board, where I first experienced this problem. Device-1: Intel IvyBridge GT2 [HD Graphics 4000] vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 process: Intel 22nm built: 2012-13 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, HDMI-A-2, VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0162 class-ID: 0300 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93") Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 model: ASUS VP247 serial: H9LMTF107402 built: 2017 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 94 gamma: 1.2 size: 521x293mm (20.51x11.54") diag: 598mm (23.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400 API: OpenGL v: 4.2 Mesa 23.3.4 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) direct-render: Yes
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