[opensuse] How do i set FF (already def browser) to open links from TB (instead of conq)?
Hi, (It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.) (In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..) (But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq? tia, M9. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/06/12 21:10, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
(It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.)
(In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..)
(But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq?
tia,
M9. This question has come up quite a number of times in the past.
From memory there are 2 things to look at: in System Settings, Default Applications do you have Firefox set as the default browser? and the second is have look in Konqueror - sorry, cannot remember where as I have never used Konqueror :-( . BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-06-12 13:24, Basil Chupin schreef:
On 14/06/12 21:10, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
(It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.)
(In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..)
(But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq?
tia,
M9. This question has come up quite a number of times in the past.
From memory there are 2 things to look at:
in System Settings, Default Applications do you have Firefox set as the default browser?
There is no such option in my systemsettings...
and the second is have look in Konqueror - sorry, cannot remember where as I have never used Konqueror :-( .
Might take a look there... tnx B..
BC
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On 14/06/12 22:22, Oddball wrote:
Op 14-06-12 13:24, Basil Chupin schreef:
On 14/06/12 21:10, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
(It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.)
(In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..)
(But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq?
tia,
M9. This question has come up quite a number of times in the past.
From memory there are 2 things to look at:
in System Settings, Default Applications do you have Firefox set as the default browser?
There is no such option in my systemsettings...
You don't have this in your settings?: http://picpaste.com/default-settings-ukEeFn07.png BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-06-12 15:11, Basil Chupin schreef:
On 14/06/12 22:22, Oddball wrote:
Op 14-06-12 13:24, Basil Chupin schreef:
On 14/06/12 21:10, Oddball wrote: in System Settings, Default Applications do you have Firefox set as the default browser?
There is no such option in my systemsettings...
You don't have this in your settings?:
Yes! I have! Tnx! It is called: 'Standaardtoepassingen' in dutch... I have now put FF there, tried to open your link again, and: It worked! Marvelous! (You don't accidentaly happen to know how to invoke sysinfo do you?):-p
BC
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On 14/06/12 23:23, Oddball wrote:
Op 14-06-12 15:11, Basil Chupin schreef:
On 14/06/12 22:22, Oddball wrote:
Op 14-06-12 13:24, Basil Chupin schreef:
On 14/06/12 21:10, Oddball wrote: in System Settings, Default Applications do you have Firefox set as the default browser?
There is no such option in my systemsettings...
You don't have this in your settings?:
Yes! I have! Tnx! It is called: 'Standaardtoepassingen' in dutch... I have now put FF there, tried to open your link again, and: It worked! Marvelous!
Luvly! You have got it working! :-) .
(You don't accidentaly happen to know how to invoke sysinfo do you?):-p
Umm, not sure what you mean here, but have you tried 'man sysinfo' on a command line in a terminal? BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-6-2012 15:40, Basil Chupin schreef:
Umm, not sure what you mean here, but have you tried 'man sysinfo' on a command line in a terminal?
BC
Not realy what i mean.... (try this urself, u'll c.) Sysinfo i mean was gui-like, telling all about ur system that is relevant: CPU, RAM, swap, all the drives, free space, KDE version, Kernel version, etc., those kinda things.... and all on one page... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 14.06.2012 20:57, schrieb Oddball:
Sysinfo i mean was gui-like, telling all about ur system that is relevant: CPU, RAM, swap, all the drives, free space, KDE version, Kernel version, etc., those kinda things.... and all on one page...
Open konqueror and type sysinfo:/ in the address field and type enter. You can do the same in dolphin it just will open konqueror for you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-06-12 23:06, Martin Helm schreef:
Am 14.06.2012 20:57, schrieb Oddball:
Sysinfo i mean was gui-like, telling all about ur system that is relevant: CPU, RAM, swap, all the drives, free space, KDE version, Kernel version, etc., those kinda things.... and all on one page... Open konqueror and type sysinfo:/ in the address field and type enter. You can do the same in dolphin it just will open konqueror for y Exactly! That's what i meant! Thanxalot :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Oddball <monkey9@iae.nl> [06-14-12 17:34]:
Op 14-06-12 23:06, Martin Helm schreef:
Am 14.06.2012 20:57, schrieb Oddball:
Sysinfo i mean was gui-like, telling all about ur system that is relevant: CPU, RAM, swap, all the drives, free space, KDE version, Kernel version, etc., those kinda things.... and all on one page... Open konqueror and type sysinfo:/ in the address field and type enter. You can do the same in dolphin it just will open konqueror for y Exactly! That's what i meant! Thanxalot :-)
No, what you meant was "kinfocenter" iirc :^) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 15-06-12 00:54, Patrick Shanahan schreef:
* Oddball<monkey9@iae.nl> [06-14-12 17:34]:
Op 14-06-12 23:06, Martin Helm schreef:
Am 14.06.2012 20:57, schrieb Oddball:
Sysinfo i mean was gui-like, telling all about ur system that is relevant: CPU, RAM, swap, all the drives, free space, KDE version, Kernel version, etc., those kinda things.... and all on one page... Open konqueror and type sysinfo:/ in the address field and type enter. You can do the same in dolphin it just will open konqueror for y Exactly! That's what i meant! Thanxalot :-)
No, what you meant was "kinfocenter" iirc :^) I thought that when i opened it first, but no, i meant sysinfo:/ Only disadvantage is the refreshing when on to small resolution.
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On 15/06/12 04:57, Oddball wrote:
Op 14-6-2012 15:40, Basil Chupin schreef:
Umm, not sure what you mean here, but have you tried 'man sysinfo' on a command line in a terminal?
BC
Not realy what i mean.... (try this urself, u'll c.)
Sysinfo i mean was gui-like, telling all about ur system that is relevant: CPU, RAM, swap, all the drives, free space, KDE version, Kernel version, etc., those kinda things.... and all on one page...
Sheesh, don't you ever look around and experiment:-) . Kickoff>Computer>My Computer. BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin schreef:
On 15/06/12 04:57, Oddball wrote:
Op 14-6-2012 15:40, Basil Chupin schreef:
Umm, not sure what you mean here, but have you tried 'man sysinfo' on a command line in a terminal?
BC
Not realy what i mean.... (try this urself, u'll c.)
Sysinfo i mean was gui-like, telling all about ur system that is relevant: CPU, RAM, swap, all the drives, free space, KDE version, Kernel version, etc., those kinda things.... and all on one page...
Sheesh, don't you ever look around and experiment:-) .
Kickoff>Computer>My Computer.
BC
Lol... ofcourse i do.. just got back after more than a year not using linux... one tends to forget what one doesn't use much, you know that. I used to testdrive oS for years. Changes after selling it resulted in a lot of fundamental differences... Some of them made me take a holiday from oS 4 a while... :-p And, i use the classic menu vieuw... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/06/12 19:16, Oddball wrote:
Basil Chupin schreef:
On 15/06/12 04:57, Oddball wrote:
Op 14-6-2012 15:40, Basil Chupin schreef:
Umm, not sure what you mean here, but have you tried 'man sysinfo' on a command line in a terminal?
BC
Not realy what i mean.... (try this urself, u'll c.)
Sysinfo i mean was gui-like, telling all about ur system that is relevant: CPU, RAM, swap, all the drives, free space, KDE version, Kernel version, etc., those kinda things.... and all on one page...
Sheesh, don't you ever look around and experiment:-) .
Kickoff>Computer>My Computer.
BC
Lol... ofcourse i do.. just got back after more than a year not using linux... one tends to forget what one doesn't use much, you know that.
All I know is what I was told many years ago, "Use it before you lose it". So, keep using Linux! :-)
I used to testdrive oS for years. Changes after selling it resulted in a lot of fundamental differences... Some of them made me take a holiday from oS 4 a while... :-p And, i use the classic menu vieuw...
Classic menu or not, the setting is still there... But then, it's your story and you sticking with it, right? :-) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 6/18/2012 8:08 AM, Basil Chupin schreef:
On 16/06/12 19:16, Oddball wrote:
And, i use the classic menu vieuw...
Classic menu or not, the setting is still there...
But then, it's your story and you sticking with it, right? :-)
BC
You are absolutely correct, the setting is still here. I played around with the panel and found out vieuwing that option was not checked, corrected that. But alt+F2: sysinfo: , as Ricardo suggested earlier, works ok also. On the other hand: I missed posting on the list... ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 14.06.2012 13:10, schrieb Oddball:
Hi,
(It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.)
(In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..)
That's the plan.
(But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq?
It could be a bug. You are running under KDE I guess? Which openSUSE version? Firefox is set as default in the KDE settings? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-06-12 13:28, Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
Am 14.06.2012 13:10, schrieb Oddball:
Hi,
(It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.)
(In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..) That's the plan.
(But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq? It could be a bug. You are running under KDE I guess? Yes, 4. I do not know which version exactly, as i cannot find the centre where this was shown anymore..:-( Which openSUSE version?
11.4
Firefox is set as default in the KDE settings?
Well, i do not know how to set it there. It is set so in FF itself, and it checks it, if i may believe that...
Wolfgang
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Op 14-06-12 14:18, Oddball schreef:
Op 14-06-12 13:28, Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
Am 14.06.2012 13:10, schrieb Oddball: how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in
Konq? It could be a bug. You are running under KDE I guess? Yes, 4. I do not know which version exactly, as i cannot find the centre where this was shown anymore..:-(
It was called: sysinfo, but i do not know how to invoke it..
Wolfgang
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On Thursday, June 14, 2012 02:57:09 PM Oddball wrote:
Op 14-06-12 14:18, Oddball schreef:
Op 14-06-12 13:28, Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
Am 14.06.2012 13:10, schrieb Oddball: how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in
Konq?
It could be a bug. You are running under KDE I guess?
Yes, 4. I do not know which version exactly, as i cannot find the centre where this was shown anymore..:-(
It was called: sysinfo, but i do not know how to invoke it..
Alt+F2 to call KRunner, then type sysinfo: inside the window. It will display the KDE basic summary. If you need a detailed Hardware Information Summary then type KInfocenter inside the KRunner window.
Wolfgang
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Op 15-06-12 16:59, Ricardo Chung schreef:
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 02:57:09 PM Oddball wrote:
Op 14-06-12 14:18, Oddball schreef:
Op 14-06-12 13:28, Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
Am 14.06.2012 13:10, schrieb Oddball: how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in
Konq? It could be a bug. You are running under KDE I guess? Yes, 4. I do not know which version exactly, as i cannot find the centre where this was shown anymore..:-( It was called: sysinfo, but i do not know how to invoke it..
Alt+F2 to call KRunner, then type sysinfo: inside the window. It will display the KDE basic summary.
If you need a detailed Hardware Information Summary then type KInfocenter inside the KRunner window.
indeed much quicker, i forgot the command.. have only used oS every once in a while 4 about a year, but many things come back quickly, thnx. ;-)
Wolfgang Regards,
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Oddball wrote:
Hi,
(It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.)
(In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..)
(But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq?
This is why I continue to use Seamonkey (modern incarnation of Netscape Navigotor) instead of Thunderbird + FF -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-06-12 15:12, Dirk Gently schreef:
Oddball wrote:
Hi,
(It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.)
(In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..)
(But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq? This is why I continue to use Seamonkey (modern incarnation of Netscape Navigotor)
Setting FF in KDE default program settings did the job, thnx to BC, who showed a pic of the app, where to change that. I must say that 4 me personally, i rather would like the apps to just work, instead of taking a lot of valuable time to adjust them
instead of Thunderbird + FF -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 14.06.2012 15:28, schrieb Oddball:
Op 14-06-12 15:12, Dirk Gently schreef:
Oddball wrote:
Hi,
(It annoys me to find konqueror to start up to display a link, while FF is already def browser and started up.) (It also annoys me that the way to change this behaviour is not intuitive, it is worse: Nowhere to be found.)
(In my opinion it should be enough to default an app to permit it to act on my behalve..)
(But this aside,) how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq? This is why I continue to use Seamonkey (modern incarnation of Netscape Navigotor)
Setting FF in KDE default program settings did the job, thnx to BC, who showed a pic of the app, where to change that.
I must say that 4 me personally, i rather would like the apps to just work, instead of taking a lot of valuable time to adjust them
instead of Thunderbird + FF
That means that in KDE Firefox was not set as your default browser but Firefox was pretending to be set as default in its own settings? May I ask what version of Firefox you are running? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-06-12 15:51, Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
That means that in KDE Firefox was not set as your default browser but Firefox was pretending to be set as default in its own settings? May I ask what version of Firefox you are running? Wolfgang
12.0 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 14.06.2012 15:57, schrieb Oddball:
Op 14-06-12 15:51, Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
That means that in KDE Firefox was not set as your default browser but Firefox was pretending to be set as default in its own settings? May I ask what version of Firefox you are running? Wolfgang
12.0
Not only the version but also the origin please. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-06-12 16:06, Wolfgang Rosenauer schreef:
Not only the version but also the origin please. Wolfgang
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Oddball said the following on 06/14/2012 09:28 AM:
I must say that 4 me personally, i rather would like the apps to just work, instead of taking a lot of valuable time to adjust them
Oh well then the answer is easy, don't use Linux. Go use a "fascist" OS like Windows rather than a "democratic" one like Linux that gives you 'freedom of choice'. OK, so I'm over-stating it; you can go out and load firefox for Windows and configure it there; heck, you can even get a version of KDE to run on Windows, so I'm told. But if you don't want to accept the defaults then you have to make the effort to reconfigure, and Linux gives you a lot more, and a lot more easily accessible, meaningful choices than Windows. Oh, yes, Windows may offer choices, but how many of therm are gratuitous, are 'eye candy'? Lets see, you're using KDE? Then the default browser if Konqueror, and a good browser it is. It may lack the plug-ins of Firefox but I find it display videos that I can't reliably view with Firefox. And yes, Konqueror "just works", it works just fine. Lets see, you're using KDE? Then the default email read is KMail. Many people prefer it to Thunderbird, though I'm not one of them. Are you using Gnome? Then the defaults and how you configure things are different. But then again you may be using one of the other desktop managers, LXDE, XFCE, FVWM, BlackBox, FluxBox, RatPoison, WM2 and WMX ... and many more. Each has their own defaults and settings, and of you don't like them you can change them, or change the desktop manager. If you find this literation, this freedom of choice and the decisions that freedom forces on you, as as happened to some people in some countries that have converted from a totalitarian government to a democracy, then yes, go and use a OS where you don't have to make these choices, where the only choices you are compelled to make are high restricted and amount to 'eye-candy'. Oh right, there always Apple's OSX, which "just works", but it seems you pay a premium for that and I'm not sure how much freedom of choice you are left with compared to Linux. Perhaps Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning was the Command Line" need updating as so much of it is now out of date http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html -- It is the test of a good religion whether you can joke about it. - G. K. Chesterton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/06/12 23:59, Anton Aylward wrote:
Oddball said the following on 06/14/2012 09:28 AM:
I must say that 4 me personally, i rather would like the apps to just work, instead of taking a lot of valuable time to adjust them
Oh well then the answer is easy, don't use Linux.
Go use a "fascist" OS like Windows rather than a "democratic" one like Linux that gives you 'freedom of choice'.
OK, so I'm over-stating it; you can go out and load firefox for Windows and configure it there; heck, you can even get a version of KDE to run on Windows, so I'm told.
But if you don't want to accept the defaults then you have to make the effort to reconfigure, and Linux gives you a lot more, and a lot more easily accessible, meaningful choices than Windows. Oh, yes, Windows may offer choices, but how many of therm are gratuitous, are 'eye candy'?
Lets see, you're using KDE? Then the default browser if Konqueror, and a good browser it is. It may lack the plug-ins of Firefox but I find it display videos that I can't reliably view with Firefox. And yes, Konqueror "just works", it works just fine.
Lets see, you're using KDE? Then the default email read is KMail. Many people prefer it to Thunderbird, though I'm not one of them.
Are you using Gnome? Then the defaults and how you configure things are different. But then again you may be using one of the other desktop managers, LXDE, XFCE, FVWM, BlackBox, FluxBox, RatPoison, WM2 and WMX ... and many more.
Each has their own defaults and settings, and of you don't like them you can change them, or change the desktop manager.
If you find this literation, this freedom of choice and the decisions that freedom forces on you, as as happened to some people in some countries that have converted from a totalitarian government to a democracy, then yes, go and use a OS where you don't have to make these choices, where the only choices you are compelled to make are high restricted and amount to 'eye-candy'.
Oh right, there always Apple's OSX, which "just works", but it seems you pay a premium for that and I'm not sure how much freedom of choice you are left with compared to Linux.
Perhaps Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning was the Command Line" need updating as so much of it is now out of date http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html
Anton, did you just fall out of your tree? :-) Or did you forget to take your meds? :-) BC -- Using openSUSE 12.1 x86_64 KDE 4.8.3 and kernel 3.4.2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 14-06-12 16:15, Basil Chupin schreef:
On 14/06/12 23:59, Anton Aylward wrote:
Oddball said the following on 06/14/2012 09:28 AM:
I must say that 4 me personally, i rather would like the apps to just work, instead of taking a lot of valuable time to adjust them
Oh well then the answer is easy, don't use Linux.
Go use a "fascist" OS like Windows rather than a "democratic" one like Linux that gives you 'freedom of choice'.
OK, so I'm over-stating it; you can go out and load firefox for Windows and configure it there; heck, you can even get a version of KDE to run on Windows, so I'm told.
But if you don't want to accept the defaults then you have to make the effort to reconfigure, and Linux gives you a lot more, and a lot more easily accessible, meaningful choices than Windows. Oh, yes, Windows may offer choices, but how many of therm are gratuitous, are 'eye candy'?
Lets see, you're using KDE? Then the default browser if Konqueror, and a good browser it is. It may lack the plug-ins of Firefox but I find it display videos that I can't reliably view with Firefox. And yes, Konqueror "just works", it works just fine.
Lets see, you're using KDE? Then the default email read is KMail. Many people prefer it to Thunderbird, though I'm not one of them.
Are you using Gnome? Then the defaults and how you configure things are different. But then again you may be using one of the other desktop managers, LXDE, XFCE, FVWM, BlackBox, FluxBox, RatPoison, WM2 and WMX ... and many more.
Each has their own defaults and settings, and of you don't like them you can change them, or change the desktop manager.
If you find this literation, this freedom of choice and the decisions that freedom forces on you, as as happened to some people in some countries that have converted from a totalitarian government to a democracy, then yes, go and use a OS where you don't have to make these choices, where the only choices you are compelled to make are high restricted and amount to 'eye-candy'.
Oh right, there always Apple's OSX, which "just works", but it seems you pay a premium for that and I'm not sure how much freedom of choice you are left with compared to Linux.
Perhaps Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning was the Command Line" need updating as so much of it is now out of date http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html
Anton, did you just fall out of your tree? :-)
Or did you forget to take your meds? :-)
BC
Well, he succeeded earlier in driving me away from this list, and from openSUSE. I guess he hates it 2 c me here again. Maybe he thinks it is his private list. He, and some other special selected few, handpicked by the great Anton himself, may come and speak here. Just go on, drive anybody with a different opinion away from the list. I wonder what's the most 'fascist' like. @Anton: Your mail ended in the junk automaticly, without me prepping a filter 4 it.. ;-) BC's reply showed ur flames towards me... It is realy a shame that ppl like you think they own linux and this list... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/06/12 14:59, Anton Aylward wrote:
Perhaps Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning was the Command Line" need updating as so much of it is now out of date http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html
Fascinating document, and actually not very out-of-date, considering it was written in 1999. Bob -- Bob Williams System: Linux 3.1.10-1.9-desktop Distro: openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) with KDE Development Platform: 4.8.4 (4.8.4) "release 511" Uptime: 18:00pm up 5 days 10:02, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.20, 0.53 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Bob Williams wrote:
On 14/06/12 14:59, Anton Aylward wrote:
Perhaps Neal Stephenson's "In the Beginning was the Command Line" need updating as so much of it is now out of date http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html
Fascinating document, and actually not very out-of-date, considering it was written in 1999.
Bob
Way off-topic - quote: "but around the same time, Bill Gates and Paul Allen came up with an idea even stranger and more fantastical: selling computer operating systems." At the time, IBM had been renting out not just operating systems but also applications (think CICS and IMS) for about 10 years. Not so strange and certainly not overly fantastical. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (24.5°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/06/14 09:12 (GMT-0400) Dirk Gently composed:
how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq?
This is why I continue to use Seamonkey (modern incarnation of Netscape Navigotor) instead of Thunderbird + FF
Add to that SM uses a lot less RAM than FF+TB, since the latter don't share duplicate code like the integrated app SM doesn't have. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op 15-06-12 03:39, Felix Miata schreef:
On 2012/06/14 09:12 (GMT-0400) Dirk Gently composed:
how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq?
This is why I continue to use Seamonkey (modern incarnation of Netscape Navigotor) instead of Thunderbird + FF
Add to that SM uses a lot less RAM than FF+TB, since the latter don't share duplicate code like the integrated app SM doesn't have. Now this does interest me.. I will check this out..
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Oddball schreef:
Op 15-06-12 03:39, Felix Miata schreef:
On 2012/06/14 09:12 (GMT-0400) Dirk Gently composed:
how can i change TB to open links in FF, instead of in Konq?
This is why I continue to use Seamonkey (modern incarnation of Netscape Navigotor) instead of Thunderbird + FF
Add to that SM uses a lot less RAM than FF+TB, since the latter don't share duplicate code like the integrated app SM doesn't have. Now this does interest me.. I will check this out..
This is indeed lighter, and like 1996. Will use this 4 a while.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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