Anton, OK, just for the record, I am NOT using a VM in the cloud (I am only using one locally, for other reasons). And I am NOT doing a VPN. I never said I wanted to do a VPN. And SSH is not the same thing as a VPN, as far as I know. I never wanted to do a VPN. FYI, I am on deadline this evening, writing more doc on my current contract. So I will be up very late and not paying full attention here. But later, yes. John -----Original Message----- From: Anton Aylward [mailto:opensuse@antonaylward.com] Sent: February-10-16 8:22 PM To: John Morris <jmorris@decisionmodels.org> Cc: Alan Rocker <arocker@vex.net> Subject: Re: [opensuse] 13.2 vs Leap vs Tumbleweed - Gnucash issue! On 02/10/2016 07:59 PM, John Morris wrote:

Well G-d forbid Anton I should call you all "liars" -- the thought actually never crossed my mind.

You don't have to say "You're a liar" to call us liars any more than the snarky bully at school did when he said "Yeahhhhhh, shuuuuure!" I've been saying "its so" all along, but you keep persisting in saying that you need the VM and VPN which amounts to sticking you fingers in your earns and saying "nya nya nya I'm not listing to you".. LISTEN UP!

I am filing this email way for likely the weekend -- because I'm getting a real headache now.

And I think you are saying that -- actually I don't know what you are saying.

I'm saying that you don't need a virtual machine, don't need a VPN connection.. You can do this entirely with a Linux-to-Linux connection. Look, you could do it across you won LAN. Put GnuCash on one machine and access it by ssh from another Linux machine.

You are saying I can run a Linux GUI software (i.e. GnuCash) on a shared hosted Linux environment (who knows and we don't care what distro) and apparently I can SSH in and get an X-Server screen piped to an X-client running on Windows????

I don't know about Windows, but why, when you have a Linux machine of your own? Is it possible with Putty? I would think so, but not having a Windows setup I'm not able to try. I do have a tablet. My android 12" tablet has an X-Server app and yes, I've accessed a GUI over my wifi network to Thunderbird running as the client on my desktop. I tried a few other programs, patience of course :-), to prove it could be done in the more general sense. But WTF, the X protocol suite has been around a long time and many people have implemented in on dumb terminals. back when I did use Windows for a client we had the Hummingbird kit and that was quite satisfactory.

I recall when I was at DEC ('87 to '93) we could do interesting things with apps running on other machines and direct the output (whatever that was at DEC at the time, DECWindows or something, and related to X11 or Motif later . . .) to my own workstation (I had 24 MB RAM -- which was the largest on the floor).

Yes, DEC developed DECNET, which was a bit like ARCNET and others such as Novell's networking product in that it was very efficient on a LAN but had problems with global routing. Mockapetris and Mike Palpinsky in "Elements of Nertwoking Style".

Anyway, I'd be grateful if you could explain what ezzaktly you are on about . . . I'm listening.

Thanks, sort of . . . : )

Simple: you can do ALL you have been discussing, the Gnucash and the web based interface, without the need for a Virtual Machine on a shared hosting account, similar to the one I have at Dreamhost. Its a simple as that As alan says, "Simplicate and add lightness" works for business processes as well as for mechanical systems. It's true for software systems as well. -- "The Singapore government isn't interested in controlling information, but wants a gradual phase-in of services to protect ourselves. It's not to control, but to protect the citizens of Singapore. In our society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct." -- Ernie Hai, coordinator of the Singapore Government Internet Project -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org