screen blocks installation of 9.1
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Hi folks, After more than six months of messing around I finally got SuSE 9.1 running. Then, silly me, I went out a bought a laptop: It is an AMD 64 bit processor supplied by a company called TPG, but I believe that it is actually an Arima W70-K8M in disguise. I tried to install SuSE 9.1 for 64 bit machines but ran into the following problem. SuSE appears to install with no problems, but when it goes to re-start it hangs thus: First start: I press F2 to see details: hangs after saying it is going to start something (which I have forgotten). Second start attempt: Gets past the above point, but hangs after announcing that it is starting CUPS. Third start attempt: Gets to the login screen and announces that it cannot read the monitor type and would I like to configure it manually. After configuring SuSE hangs the machine. Must power off. The above is exactly repeatable every time, several times. The screen is a WXGA LCD with LVDS interface. The native resolution is 1280 x 800 "wide" screen. The card is a SiS 651_66FX_ _741_760_760GX_M661FX_M661MX Works with zero problems under 'that' XP at 60 Hz, 32 bit color. I have tried: (a) installation without up-dates, (b) installation with up-dates (about three hours with ADSL), (c) setting the screen as LCD with under-sized pixel dimensions, (d) setting VGA (screen drops into violent color flashes), etc I have spent over twenty hours surfing the web for a solution. TPG do not provide technical support except to say that there is a discussion on the Whirlpool forum (but I read the whole lot, about 90 large pages, and found NULL). Any ideas would be much appreciated. Regards, Colin PS: At 2.40 am I am falling into bed....
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On 7/1/05, Colin Carter
Hi folks, After more than six months of messing around I finally got SuSE 9.1 running. Then, silly me, I went out a bought a laptop: It is an AMD 64 bit processor supplied by a company called TPG, but I believe that it is actually an Arima W70-K8M in disguise. I tried to install SuSE 9.1 for 64 bit machines but ran into the following problem. SuSE appears to install with no problems, but when it goes to re-start it hangs thus: First start: I press F2 to see details: hangs after saying it is going to start something (which I have forgotten). Second start attempt: Gets past the above point, but hangs after announcing that it is starting CUPS. Third start attempt: Gets to the login screen and announces that it cannot read the monitor type and would I like to configure it manually. After configuring SuSE hangs the machine. Must power off.
Have you tried to disable apm and acpi? Set apm=off acpi=off at the boot prompt. I had similar (not exactly the same) problems, with laptops, which fail to boot, dying on starting different services. Sunny
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On Saturday 02 July 2005 02:50, Sunny wrote:
On 7/1/05, Colin Carter
wrote: Hi folks, After more than six months of messing around I finally got SuSE 9.1 running. Then, silly me, I went out a bought a laptop: It is an AMD 64 bit processor supplied by a company called TPG, but I believe that it is actually an Arima W70-K8M in disguise. I tried to install SuSE 9.1 for 64 bit machines but ran into the following problem. SuSE appears to install with no problems, but when it goes to re-start it hangs thus: First start: I press F2 to see details: hangs after saying it is going to start something (which I have forgotten). Second start attempt: Gets past the above point, but hangs after announcing that it is starting CUPS. Third start attempt: Gets to the login screen and announces that it cannot read the monitor type and would I like to configure it manually. After configuring SuSE hangs the machine. Must power off.
Have you tried to disable apm and acpi? Set apm=off acpi=off at the boot prompt. Thanks Sunny. I have tried the acpi=off, but have not tried the apm=off. I will do that later today. (after I've done my grocery shopping....waste of good computing time...) Regards, Colin I had similar (not exactly the same) problems, with laptops, which fail to boot, dying on starting different services.
Sunny
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On Saturday 02 July 2005 02:50, Sunny wrote:
Hi folks, snip> It is an AMD 64 bit processor supplied by a company called TPG, but I believe that it is actually an Arima W70-K8M in disguise. I tried to install SuSE 9.1 for 64 bit machines but ran into the following problem. snip> Have you tried to disable apm and acpi? Set apm=off acpi=off at the boot
On 7/1/05, Colin Carter
wrote: prompt. I had similar (not exactly the same) problems, with laptops, which fail to boot, dying on starting different services.
Sunny
Hi again Sunny. I tried your suggestion. It doesn't work, but seems to get further. I tried using F2 to change to a screen of 1280 x 768 which gives a good image. What I can't understand is why the SuSE programmers almost deliberately "mess it up". Let me explain: On startup I get the full SuSE "Welcome in several languages" screen. Then, as it installs, the program displays every screen perfectly. This includes perfect text and images. Then it reboots. Then the program displays text and images correctly on a full screen. Then it displays a window with the message saying that it doesn't know the screen dimensions and says that it is 0 x 0. THAT is just stupid, because it has been displaying perfect text and images for an hour! If I adjust it to 1280 x 800 (correct native, which M$ manages), OR to VGA, OR just 'cancel' I get the same reaction: Flashing colours and hung machine. These young SuSE programmers ought to take some advice from my departed father: "If it ain't broke don't fix it." Why, if after working perfectly well for an hour, change the mode into something else? Just what logic are they using in the code? Leave the bloody thing alone! Another example of poor coding with this issue: The boot requests (via F2) the screen resolution. It happily accepts 1280 x 768 and uses same. Now, my logic says that the code must have placed those values into memory, otherwise it couldn't use these values for an hour. If, later in the program, it reads 0 x 0, then why store 0 x 0 ? The code even 'knows' that this is wrong (it even prompts me) so why the hell configure and store the 0 x 0. Logic says that if the code reached this point then the current settings, as accepted and used above, must be a better guess than values which it has just proven to be wrong. Or don't they teach logic in modern programming courses? Sorry to sound off, but every time you buy something these days you have to make immediate arrangements to have it fixed. For example, today I bought a new leather case to carry my nice new laptop, and I get it home only to discover that it has a faulty clip on the shoulder carrying strap. If anybody has any idea how to trick SuSE logic please let me have a hint. This is becoming urgent as I am about to board a plane for London and I will not be able to read these emails for three weeks. Regards, Colin
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