On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Ralph Clark wrote:

Well I can live without Star Office I think, but I urgently need to install the Oracle 8.0 software and I'd also like to try building the mozilla browser to see if it's any more stable than Navigator 4.06 and 4.5.

I'm running mozilla on my system. I built it with libc5.

The problem is these require a glibc2-based system and I'm running SuSE 5.3.

I have _no idea_ what you're reading. Nowhere in the source package ( unlike SO5 ) does it say you have to have glibc to compile. It DOES require a right version of gtk and I think should be regarded as a beta program( if not alpha ).

What I've read makes me think that if I install the glibc2 libraries then lots of things will stop working unless I recompile virtually the whole system. Is this true? is there any way around it? I'm unwilling to risk the stability of my whole system to achieve these goals but I'm reluctant to go back to using RedHat. If you replace your libc5 with glibc you just need to still have libc5 around for backwards compatibility. If you do it right, you should still be able to run libc5 binaries. 6.0 will still include backwards support for apps linked with old libc5.

Judging by the volume of related correspondence on this list, what we desperately need is a SuSE linux v5.3 glibc2 conversion HOWTO. I doubt this will be forthcoming from SuSE as they will want people to buy SuSE 6.0. Is there anyone out there who has installed oracle or built mozilla on SuSE 5.3? If so please share your knowledge. I've posted technical support to this list myself quite a few times now so I don't feel too ashamed to ask....

I don't think you'll see a 5.3-to-glibc2 how to, mainly cause people capable of doing so can make due with the existing documentation and those who can't extrapolate enough from that to do it without screwing up their system might be in over their heads and be better off waiting for 6.0 which should still let you run you old libc5 apps if it works right.:-) I can't speak for oracle. I think the only app I had problems with on S.u.S.E. 5.3 in terms glibc issues was Emusic, which I scrapped--not cause I can't get it to work but cause I'm lazy, and decided it wasn't worth the expenditure of energy. I do know that mozilla works for me and compiled in record time with no problems. It's small and light, which I like. It occasionally crashes and is still very 'beta-esque' at times, but I wanted it because I'm in the market for another --preferrably open source --browser now that Netscape is in bed with the 2nd Whore of Babylon, AOL. The version of gzilla that I compiled was built with gnome gtk+ (CVS) and is version gzilla-0.1.7. There is nowhere that I could grep in the package I have of it's sources that even mention libc5 _or_ glibc. Here's a simplified ldd: blaze# ldd /usr/local/bin/mozilla | awk {'print $1'} libjpeg.so.62 libgtk-1.1.so.9 libgdk-1.1.so.9 libmodule-1.1.so.9 libglib-1.1.so.9 libidl.so.1 libExt.so.6 libX11.so.6 libm.so.5 libc.so.5 <============== note the libc5 P.S. As much as I dislike the bloat and load of Netscape and their affiliation with AOL it's still _the_ end-user browser. Mozilla is just a developers toy at this point. -M - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>