On Thursday 29 June 2006 2:36 pm, jdd sur free wrote:

Keith Powell wrote:

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I have a magazine cover disk CD of a SUSE10.1 demo version.

On booting, there is the choice of running it as a KDE Live CD, a Gnome live CD, or installing it on the hard drive.

I don't know if this is a 'cut-down' beta version or the final version.

If I install it, will it be a good example of the purchased version (less many packages, of course) and give me a good idea as to what the full version will be like, or does it fundamentally differ from the bought edition? I'd like to test it before considering buying, especially as my 10.0 is running well.

I can't find anything about this demo version either on the SUSE site, or with Google.

Many thanks for any information.

Keith

very interesting!

some more infos (what magazine? available on download for non uk readers?)

thanks

It's the cover CD on the July issue (number 68) of Linux Magazine. The magazine's web site is: www.linux-magazine.com I can't find if it's available for download, or if you would have to buy the magazine. Hope this helps. Keith -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

jdd sur free wrote:

Keith Powell wrote:

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I have a magazine cover disk CD of a SUSE10.1 demo version. On booting, there is the choice of running it as a KDE Live CD, a Gnome live CD, or installing it on the hard drive. I don't know if this is a 'cut-down' beta version or the final version.

If I install it, will it be a good example of the purchased version (less many packages, of course) and give me a good idea as to what the full version will be like, or does it fundamentally differ from the bought edition? I'd like to test it before considering buying, especially as my 10.0 is running well.

I can't find anything about this demo version either on the SUSE site, or with Google.

Many thanks for any information.

Keith

very interesting!

some more infos (what magazine? available on download for non uk readers?)

thanks

Why not go to www.opensuse.org/Download and download the real thing - all of released version of 10.1? Cheers. -- "It is well known that among the blind, the one-eyed man is king". Desiderius Erasmus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Keith Powell wrote:
> On Thursday 29 June 2006 3:10 pm, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> jdd sur free wrote:
>>> Keith Powell wrote:
>>>> I have a magazine cover disk CD of a SUSE10.1 demo version.
>>>> On booting, there is the choice of running it as a KDE Live CD,
>>>> a Gnome live CD, or installing it on the hard drive.
>>>> I don't know if this is a 'cut-down' beta version or the final
>>>> version.
>>>>
>>>> If I install it, will it be a good example of the purchased
>>>> version (less many packages, of course) and give me a good idea
>>>> as to what the full version will be like, or does it
>>>> fundamentally differ from the bought edition? I'd like to test
>>>> it before considering buying, especially as my 10.0 is running
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> I can't find anything about this demo version either on the SUSE
>>>> site, or with Google.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for any information.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>> very interesting!
>>>
>>> some more infos (what magazine? available on download for non uk
>>> readers?)
>>>
>>> thanks
>> Why not go to www.opensuse.org/Download and download the real thing
>> - all of released version of 10.1?
>>
> 
> Sorry, but it's not feasible.
> 
> I'm on capped broadband. To download all of the released version would 
> have to be spread over two months.
> 
> Keith 


Ooops, sorry, the reply was meant for judd sur free who was asking about 
the source for the download of the mag file :-) .

Cheers.



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Keith Powell wrote:

On Thursday 29 June 2006 3:32 pm, Basil Chupin wrote:

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Ooops, sorry, the reply was meant for judd sur free who was asking about the source for the download of the mag file :-) .

Cheers.

That's OK.

I always like to buy the latest version (if it's worth it!) mainly for the DVD and its extra packages. Plus, as there seems to be many alterations in 10.1, I will need the manual!

No need for the manual. You already know enough from earlier versions to run10.1. I downloaded the 6 CD ISO files and created the DVD and so I don't have a manual - and am not lost without it. (Don't you have a friendly neighbour who could download the ISOs for you? Or perhaps the local Linux/Unix User Group who can burn a copy of the DVD (or CDs) for you? Cheers. -- "It is well known that among the blind, the one-eyed man is king". Desiderius Erasmus -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Keith Powell wrote:

I will need the manual!

better then look here (the manual is on the cd, but not on paper form, except minimal one and english/german only) http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/docu/ jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Friday 30 June 2006 1:37 am, Basil Chupin wrote:

jdd sur free wrote:

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Keith Powell wrote:

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I will need the manual!

better then look here (the manual is on the cd, but not on paper form, except minimal one and english/german only)

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/doc u/

The manual is on the CDs/DVD you download/buy but it is only in a file format (many files in fact) and if you want a printed copy then you have to print it yourself. It's in the usual place- /usr/share/doc/manual .

Basil and Jdd sur free. Thanks for your replies. I prefer a printed manual and to print it out myself would be a big job. A book is much more portable than my computer for reading. However, I'll use the manual on the DVD while I am trying 10.1. Then I'll make a decision whether to buy, keep using the cover version, or abandon 10.1 and go back to 10.0. I have the information I need, but I am extending this thread too much. So I'll shut up now! Cheers Keith -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Basil Chupin wrote:

Why not go to www.opensuse.org/Download and download the real thing - all of released version of 10.1?

the original post spoke of a demo _CD_, installable. I know of a demo DVD and AFAIK it's not installable (if it's installable, it's a good news, but I missed that) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Thursday 29 June 2006 4:53 pm, Basil Chupin wrote:

Yep, but a couple of weeks or so ago someone else mentioned a magazine as having a DVD so I assumed (correctly) that it was a "typo" and Keith really meant a DVD (which he did, as he later corrected himself).

Cheers.

I've got a peculiar keyboard here. Often, what comes out is completely different from what I have typed - usually spelling! That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it. ;-) Cheers Keith -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

Basil Chupin wrote:

jdd sur free wrote:

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Basil Chupin wrote:

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Why not go to www.opensuse.org/Download and download the real thing - all of released version of 10.1?

the original post spoke of a demo _CD_, installable. I know of a demo DVD and AFAIK it's not installable (if it's installable, it's a good news, but I missed that)

Yep, but a couple of weeks or so ago someone else mentioned a magazine as having a DVD so I assumed (correctly) that it was a "typo" and Keith really meant a DVD (which he did, as he later corrected himself).

Cheers.

well... I _need_ an installable cd and think to build one, if this was already done whould be really good :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Thursday 29 June 2006 8:11 pm, Kevin Donnelly wrote:

On Thursday 29 June 2006 14:18, Keith Powell wrote:

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If I install it, will it be a good example of the purchased version (less many packages, of course) and give me a good idea as to what the full version will be like, or does it fundamentally differ from the bought edition? I'd like to test it before considering buying, especially as my 10.0 is running well.

The short answer is "yes". I installed this, and it seems fine. Install Smart, then upgrade Smart from Pascal's site, and you will get full access to all existing packages.

This month's Linux Format (UK) also has 10.1 as the cover DVD, but I haven't used this one yet so I can't say if there are any differences.

Thanks for your reply, Kevin. The information you gave, is just what I was looking for. So, the Linux Magazine DVD seems to be the final version and not a beta version. That's good news! I'll install 10.1 from the cover DVD, install Smart, and look at the other packages as you suggest. Cheers Keith -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Friday 30 June 2006 12:11 pm, jdd sur free wrote:

The official live dvd looks like you said, with the choice btween kde or gnome at boot, but the third option is _not_ install, but boot the hard drive (with whatever is installed there)

Your disk is probably the same one jdd

Mine is different from yours. On booting with the DVD, the options are: Boot from Hard Disk Live CD KDE Live CD Gnome Installation Installation ACPI disabled Installation Local APCI disabled Installation Safe Settings I have just installed 10.1 on a spare hard drive from the DVD. It's running well, but not tried any upgrades yet. Cheers Keith -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Friday 30 June 2006 1:35 pm, Ian Marlier wrote:

On 6/30/06 8:27 AM, "Keith Powell" wrote:

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On Friday 30 June 2006 12:11 pm, jdd sur free wrote:

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The official live dvd looks like you said, with the choice btween kde or gnome at boot, but the third option is _not_ install, but boot the hard drive (with whatever is installed there)

Your disk is probably the same one jdd

Mine is different from yours.

On booting with the DVD, the options are:

Boot from Hard Disk Live CD KDE Live CD Gnome Installation Installation ACPI disabled Installation Local APCI disabled Installation Safe Settings

I have just installed 10.1 on a spare hard drive from the DVD. It's running well, but not tried any upgrades yet.

Cheers

Keith

Is that the difference between the "Live DVD" and the "Eval DVD"?

(As an acatual question; I'm in a server-farm environment, so do all my installs via PXE and nfs)

Sorry, Ian, I don't know what the difference is. The Novell/SUSE web site does say that the eval disk can be installed, but doesn't mention if it's also a live CD. Cheers Keith -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com

On Friday 30 June 2006 14:05, jdd sur free wrote:

is the installtion the usual one through Yast or an other kind?

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