Fwd: Re: [SLE] Upgrading MS Windows on a Dual Booting Machine
I'm sorry that what I thought was a legitimate question generated such a ridiculous flame. Take it off line, guys.
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Organization: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/htmlemail.html X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (OS/2; I) To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Upgrading MS Windows on a Dual Booting Machine Felipe Leon wrote:
First of all, dual booting is booting more than one OS off the same bootable partition. Installing more than one OS to more than one partition and using a boot manager to choose the system to boot is called multibooting.
Geoffrey wrote:
Have you a resource for your defintion?
You snipped it from your reply. Here's another: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html You'll notice the title is not >"Dualboot-with-GRUB".
I don't believe you!
You can believe whatever you choose. Maybe you need to write a "Dualboot-with-GRUB" FAQ. See how far you get getting it accepted.
The word "dual" comes from the latin word /duo/ which means TWO, 1+1.
No kidding!
If you install and boot two different operating systems on your machine (OBVIOUSLY
How is that obvious? They don't necessarily have to go in separate partitions.
in different partitions) you will have a "dual booting", if you install MORE than TWO OS (and decide to boot them), then you no longer have "dual booting" but "multi-booting", simple!
Not simple. You can have dual booting (two disparate operating systems on a single partition), and multibooting (operating systems on 2 or more partitions) on the same system at the same time, anything but simple.
How does one distinguish dual from multi? Simple as reserving the word dual for single boot partition systems, as IBM did in PC antiquity.
Until you come up with credible evidence for your claim, Im afraid you will have to re-check your information sources.
I won't have to recheck anything. All you need do is read an ancient IBM OS/2 manual. My oldest one is a bit new, 1993 for version 2.1. -- "The object and practice of liberty lies in the limitation of governmental power." General Douglas MacArthur
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Why are most of the messages sent to the list blank messages with attached text files? This doesn't make any sense to me, and simply creates more steps in opening, reading, and closing messages. It is also a bit of a nuisance that reply's go only to the sender rather than the list unless one changes the TO address.....
I guess that depends on the program YOU are using. I don't have any attached text files, it's just normal email messages (I just use squirell webmail, but I used Kmail for a while and it worked the same) And I also have an option on the header of the email where it says reply to list, that's the one you want to use. Because if you hit just reply obviouly the reply is going to go to the person that sent it. Cheers, Mike Stone Tool said:
Why are most of the messages sent to the list blank messages with attached text files? This doesn't make any sense to me, and simply creates more steps in opening, reading, and closing messages.
It is also a bit of a nuisance that reply's go only to the sender rather than the list unless one changes the TO address.....
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Also you can always check the suse mailing list archive and you'll see the format it's supposed to arrive in your mail as http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-Jan/ anijap@execulink.com said:
I guess that depends on the program YOU are using.
I don't have any attached text files, it's just normal email messages (I just use squirell webmail, but I used Kmail for a while and it worked the same)
And I also have an option on the header of the email where it says reply to list, that's the one you want to use. Because if you hit just reply obviouly the reply is going to go to the person that sent it.
Cheers,
Mike
Stone Tool said:
Why are most of the messages sent to the list blank messages with attached text files? This doesn't make any sense to me, and simply creates more steps in opening, reading, and closing messages.
It is also a bit of a nuisance that reply's go only to the sender rather than the list unless one changes the TO address.....
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Why are most of the messages sent to the list blank messages with attached text files? This doesn't make any sense to me, and simply creates more steps in opening, reading, and closing messages
Under your View tab or menu item, you probably have a selection to view Attachments in Line, or Decode attachments. Ed Harrison SuSE 9.0, Kernel 2.4.21-99 PolarBar Mailer 1.25a
Stone Tool wrote:
Why are most of the messages sent to the list blank messages with attached text files? This doesn't make any sense to me, and simply creates more steps in opening, reading, and closing messages.
That is not my experience. Your message and all others came as text. Is it possible it has something to do with your client?
It is also a bit of a nuisance that reply's go only to the sender rather than the list unless one changes the TO address.....
I select respond to all, then delete the original sender address. -- Until later, Geoffrey esoteric@3times25.net Building secure systems inspite of Microsoft
On Sunday 18 January 2004 7:40 pm, Stone Tool wrote:
Why are most of the messages sent to the list blank messages with attached text files? This doesn't make any sense to me, and simply creates more steps in opening, reading, and closing messages.
While I believe the list processing software generally strips non-text attachments or messages, I think it leaves "digital signatures" [like mine] intact. I sign my messages with a "detached" signature, which ensures the integrity of ALL parts of the message, however this CAN confuse some client software. I see from the headers of your message you are using "X-Mailer: Calypso Evaluation Version 3.20.02.00 (3)" which, obviously, I've never heard of :) [has your "evaluation" found any really neat things about it?] As a bit of a test, I'm sending this to both you and the list [I don't normally send "to both" as I realize the recipient is "on the list" and will get the message, but this is a special case -- I'm curious if the message sent to you directly "appears blank" like the list message, of if either/both come through just fine]
It is also a bit of a nuisance that reply's go only to the sender rather than the list unless one changes the TO address.....
Speaking of "neat things", the client I use [kmail] lets me do a number of things in regards to this: * header rewrite/insert [as part of a rule] I can "force" all messages from a "mailing list" to have a "reply-to" header that is set to the list [did that once -- it's a pain in the butt I found out, especially with some of the other "things" kmail can do] * folders can have a "list" property, meaning that the folder is my own local repository of the "list". Within the properties, I can set the "send" address for the list, and the program will make use of it in a couple of neat ways: -- when posting a new message, "middle-clicking" on the folder name brings up a new message already addressed to the list -- when replying, pressing the letter "L" does a "reply-to-LIST", which retrieves the list address automatically [meaning I don't have to set the "reply-to" rule which I mentioned above] * the "toolbar" icons can be customized, and (practically) everything that can be done from the keyboard can be placed as a toolbar icon, including "reply to list", so I can have a mouse-based version of the "L" command -- Yet another Blog: http://osnut.homelinux.net
Stone Tool wrote:
Why are most of the messages sent to the list blank messages with attached text files? This doesn't make any sense to me, and simply creates more steps in opening, reading, and closing messages.
I haven't noticed that.
It is also a bit of a nuisance that reply's go only to the sender rather than the list unless one changes the TO address.....
That bugs me too. BTW, is there any reason why you've got such a long line length?
The Monday 2004-01-19 at 19:15 -0500, James Knott wrote:
It is also a bit of a nuisance that reply's go only to the sender rather than the list unless one changes the TO address.....
That bugs me too.
That's documented. When you subscribed, you got a confirmation message from the list server. Had you read it, you'd seen your question was there: | Q7. Why do my replies go to the original poster and not the list? | A7. There is a more complete answer in FAQ, but the short answer | is that it's better this way. Trust us on this one, please. So, go to the FAQ and check the answer - I'll leave that as an exercise, instead of pasting it here :-)
BTW, is there any reason why you've got such a long line length?
Rather, why your reader doesn't reflow it - mine does :-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. wrote:
I'm sorry that what I thought was a legitimate question generated such a ridiculous flame. Take it off line, guys.
No further discussion from me on that one. I will say that your question was legit and would be interested in hearing how you proceed. I've had multi OS systems that have included Linux and many Microsoft OS's but never had to deal with your particular situation. I would be interested in hearing how you proceed and what your outcome is. -- Until later, Geoffrey esoteric@3times25.net Building secure systems inspite of Microsoft
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anijap@execulink.com
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Carlos E. R.
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Ed Harrison
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Geoffrey
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James Knott
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Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
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Stone Tool
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Tom Emerson