[opensuse] OpenOffice.

Fred A. Miller

27 Mar 2007 27 Mar '07

04:13

Why hasn't SUSE finally gotten with the program and made OO 2.1 an upgrade install via Yast, Smart, etc.? Fred -- If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Satoru Matsumoto

27 Mar 27 Mar

05:15

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Why hasn't SUSE finally gotten with the program and made OO 2.1 an upgrade install via Yast, Smart, etc.?

You can find newest SUSE-custumized OOo packages under http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org/ directory. So, add appropriate(depends on your SUSE version) directory to your YaST or Smart install source. Regards. - -- _/_/_/ To be Happy! _/_/_/ _/_/ Satoru Matsumoto _/_/ _/ helios_reds@gmx.net _/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGCKiHXnHIfHE6+z0RAp8OAJwMM1PdoR1ieHcnhu6wkSVCcO2YrwCfWx06 02SjkOZqirLaf8L8W9m7HEg= =vQL7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Reinhard Gimbel

16:31

Hello Fred, hello community ! Satoru Matsumoto wrote / schrieb:

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Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Why hasn't SUSE finally gotten with the program and made OO 2.1 an upgrade install via Yast, Smart, etc.?

You can find newest SUSE-custumized OOo packages under http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org/ directory. So, add appropriate(depends on your SUSE version) directory to your YaST or Smart install source.

In other words: There will be no automatic upgrade to a newer version (with advanced features) but bug fixes (updates) only. If you are looking for an upgrade of a certain software you always have to add other installation repositories beside the original installation repo. HTH -- Never give up ! Best regards / Gruß, Reinhard. "Software is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Fred A. Miller

20:43

On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:31:36 pm Reinhard Gimbel wrote:

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Hello Fred, hello community !

Satoru Matsumoto wrote / schrieb:

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Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Why hasn't SUSE finally gotten with the program and made OO 2.1 an upgrade install via Yast, Smart, etc.?

You can find newest SUSE-custumized OOo packages under http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org/ directory. So, add appropriate(depends on your SUSE version) directory to your YaST or Smart install source.

In other words: There will be no automatic upgrade to a newer version (with advanced features) but bug fixes (updates) only.

If you are looking for an upgrade of a certain software you always have to add other installation repositories beside the original installation repo.

Correct, but then, that was what I was "digging" at. This is wrong, IMHO. Newbies coming from MickySoft have NO idea about how to add a repository nor even why they should have to. Come to think of it........that's a good point. ;) Fred -- If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Marcus Meissner

20:58

On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 04:43:26PM -0400, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:31:36 pm Reinhard Gimbel wrote:

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Hello Fred, hello community !

Satoru Matsumoto wrote / schrieb:

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Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Why hasn't SUSE finally gotten with the program and made OO 2.1 an upgrade install via Yast, Smart, etc.?

You can find newest SUSE-custumized OOo packages under http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org/ directory. So, add appropriate(depends on your SUSE version) directory to your YaST or Smart install source.

In other words: There will be no automatic upgrade to a newer version (with advanced features) but bug fixes (updates) only.

If you are looking for an upgrade of a certain software you always have to add other installation repositories beside the original installation repo.

Correct, but then, that was what I was "digging" at. This is wrong, IMHO. Newbies coming from MickySoft have NO idea about how to add a repository nor even why they should have to. Come to think of it........that's a good point. ;)

Personally I have never seen a reason to upgrade to the latest and greatest OpenOffice on my machines. The old one just works fine for my purposes and for all stuff I can do. And i somehow guess this is true for 99% of all users. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David Brodbeck

30 Mar 30 Mar

00:35

Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Correct, but then, that was what I was "digging" at. This is wrong, IMHO. Newbies coming from MickySoft have NO idea about how to add a repository nor even why they should have to. Come to think of it........that's a good point. ;)

I like the current system because it follows the Principle of Least Surprise. When I'm installing bugfixes I don't want my software to be unexpectedly upgraded to a completely different version. There are all kinds of situations where that may not be what I want. Even Microsoft follows this logic -- if I go to the Office Updates site, I may get a new service pack for Office 2003, but I won't find that my system has suddenly been upgraded to Office 2007. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Fred A. Miller

27 Mar 27 Mar

20:40

On Tuesday 27 March 2007 1:15:52 am Satoru Matsumoto wrote:

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Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Why hasn't SUSE finally gotten with the program and made OO 2.1 an upgrade install via Yast, Smart, etc.?

You can find newest SUSE-custumized OOo packages under http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org/ directory. So, add appropriate(depends on your SUSE version) directory to your YaST or Smart install source.

Thanks! Smart still won't add this repository, but Yast did, and it's updating now. Fred -- If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson. "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

21:33

* Fred Miller [03-27-07 16:41]:

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Thanks! Smart still won't add this repository, but Yast did, and it's updating now.

it might not be smart's fault :^) from the cl: smart channel --edit add: [openoffice] type = rpm-md name = openoffice baseurl = http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org/SUSE_Linux_10.1/ (4 lines) -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Knott

1 Apr 1 Apr

14:46

Satoru Matsumoto wrote:

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Fred A. Miller wrote:

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Why hasn't SUSE finally gotten with the program and made OO 2.1 an upgrade install via Yast, Smart, etc.?

You can find newest SUSE-custumized OOo packages under http://software.opensuse.org/download/OpenOffice.org/ directory. So, add appropriate(depends on your SUSE version) directory to your YaST or Smart install source.

Regards.

I find I get dependency errors. "Unresolved dependencies: Updating OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] to OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] There are no installable providers of xml-commons-apis for OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] replaced by OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355]" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

15:39

* James Knott [04-01-07 10:51]: [...]

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I find I get dependency errors.

"Unresolved dependencies: Updating OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] to OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] There are no installable providers of xml-commons-apis for OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] replaced by OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355]"

Then do two things, check the changelog for the last builders email and advise him, then file a bug report. This way the maintainers will see the problem where advising in this forum, they may not. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Knott

16:00

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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I find I get dependency errors.

"Unresolved dependencies: Updating OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] to OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] There are no installable providers of xml-commons-apis for OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] replaced by OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355]"

Then do two things, check the changelog for the last builders email and advise him, then file a bug report.

This way the maintainers will see the problem where advising in this forum, they may not.

Done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Joe Morris (NTM)

22:49

James Knott wrote:

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I find I get dependency errors. "Unresolved dependencies: Updating OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] to OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] There are no installable providers of xml-commons-apis for OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] replaced by OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355]"

joe@jmorris:~> rpm -q --whatprovides xml-commons-apis xerces-j2-2.8.1-18 IIRC, it was on the DVD. Do you have the oss and non-oss sources configured? Did you install via CD? -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Knott

2 Apr 2 Apr

02:54

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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I find I get dependency errors. "Unresolved dependencies: Updating OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] to OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] There are no installable providers of xml-commons-apis for OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] replaced by OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355]"

joe@jmorris:~> rpm -q --whatprovides xml-commons-apis xerces-j2-2.8.1-18 IIRC, it was on the DVD. Do you have the oss and non-oss sources configured? Did you install via CD?

Yes, I had those sources configured, but I had to add the DVD. After that, I was able to do the OO update. However, I noticed that the files are back in the /usr/lib/ooo-2.0 directory, instead of 2.1, as the previous version was. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Druid

17:12

newbies should stick with the versiosn released in the release media... But I still have to see a newbie that know or respect that rule... On 4/1/07, James Knott wrote:

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Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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I find I get dependency errors. "Unresolved dependencies: Updating OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] to OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] There are no installable providers of xml-commons-apis for OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] replaced by OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355]"

joe@jmorris:~> rpm -q --whatprovides xml-commons-apis xerces-j2-2.8.1-18 IIRC, it was on the DVD. Do you have the oss and non-oss sources configured? Did you install via CD?

Yes, I had those sources configured, but I had to add the DVD. After that, I was able to do the OO update. However, I noticed that the files are back in the /usr/lib/ooo-2.0 directory, instead of 2.1, as the previous version was.

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Petr Mladek

5 Apr 5 Apr

09:43

On Monday 02 April 2007 04:54, James Knott wrote:

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Yes, I had those sources configured, but I had to add the DVD. After that, I was able to do the OO update. However, I noticed that the files are back in the /usr/lib/ooo-2.0 directory, instead of 2.1, as the previous version was.

The /usr/lib/ooo-2.0 directory is intended. We do do want to change the directory every half a year, so we decided to switch back to ooo-2.0. We will probably stay with it until OOo-3.x. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: pmladek@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

10:29

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are back in the /usr/lib/ooo-2.0 directory, instead of 2.1, as the previous version was.

The /usr/lib/ooo-2.0 directory is intended. We do do want to change the directory every half a year, so we decided to switch back to ooo-2.0. We will probably stay with it until OOo-3.x.

Then, /usr/lib/ooo-2.x would be better, I guess ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGFM+etTMYHG2NR9URAnrRAJwIV/tQlTJ/zoDkfY6/uX/gf/FS5gCdGIqs 35VnxGgJbez91ca2regdthI= =wqCL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Petr Mladek

09:52

On Monday 02 April 2007 04:54, James Knott wrote:

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Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 4/1/07, James Knott wrote:

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Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:

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James Knott wrote:

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I find I get dependency errors. "Unresolved dependencies: Updating OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] to OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] There are no installable providers of xml-commons-apis for OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355] OpenOffice_org-2.1-0.1.i586[System packages] replaced by OpenOffice_org-2.1-14.2.i586[20070331-213355]"

IIRC, it was on the DVD. Do you have the oss and non-oss sources configured? Did you install via CD?

Yes, I had those sources configured, but I had to add the DVD. After that, I was able to do the OO update.

I'll try to find a better solution, I'll probably add these packages to the OpenOffice.org installation sources. I am still busy with SLED10-SP1, so it might take some time. Please be patient and use the DVD installation sources for now. I see the missing packages also in the oss installation source at ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/noarch/ You can add it as an extra installation source by YaST (just strip the latest two directories): ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/ You can also select another mirror at http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Development_Build -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: pmladek@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Stevens

9 Apr 9 Apr

06:09

New subject: [opensuse] Smart pkg mgr question

Since Smart hosed up (hung, quit, froze, whatever) and I killed it with the kill command, subsequent launches give the warning that the configuration is read only, even as root. If I use cli (smart --gui --ignore-locks) then it works. I have looked in what I thought were the obvious places for a lock file but I cannot find it. I also searched through the mail list archives and bug reports for smart to see if anyone else reported the problem but nothing came back. Anyone have a clue how to fix it? Thanks, Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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