[opensuse] zypper in cannot find what zypper se can
# zypper se -s vlc | grep tter v | VideoLAN - VLC media player | pattern | | noarch | VideoLAN # zypper -v in -t pattern VideoLAN Verbosity: 1 Non-option program arguments: 'VideoLAN' Initializing Target Checking whether to refresh metadata for Non-OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for Packman Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No 'VideoLAN' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'pattern:VideoLAN' found. Resolving package dependencies... Force resolution: No What am I doing wrong? YaST2 sw cannot find it either. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 23:51:02 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
# zypper se -s vlc | grep tter v | VideoLAN - VLC media player | pattern | | noarch | VideoLAN
# zypper -v in -t pattern VideoLAN Verbosity: 1 Non-option program arguments: 'VideoLAN' Initializing Target Checking whether to refresh metadata for Non-OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for Packman Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No 'VideoLAN' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'pattern:VideoLAN' found. Resolving package dependencies... Force resolution: No
What am I doing wrong? YaST2 sw cannot find it either.
Hi Felix, Could it be 'Lan' (the acronym) is not in all caps and 'VideoLAN' is split into two words now? " vlc - VLC - Video Lan Client VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player for various audio and video formats (MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, mp3, ogg, ...) as well as DVDs, VCDs, and various streaming protocols. It can also be used as a server to stream in unicast or multicast in IPv4 or IPv6 on a high-bandwidth network. This package contains: VLC media player" regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
[04.08.2013 09:20] [Carl Hartung]:
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 23:51:02 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
# zypper se -s vlc | grep tter v | VideoLAN - VLC media player | pattern | | noarch | VideoLAN
# zypper -v in -t pattern VideoLAN Verbosity: 1 Non-option program arguments: 'VideoLAN' Initializing Target Checking whether to refresh metadata for Non-OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for Packman Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No 'VideoLAN' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'pattern:VideoLAN' found. Resolving package dependencies... Force resolution: No
What am I doing wrong? YaST2 sw cannot find it either.
Hi Felix,
Could it be 'Lan' (the acronym) is not in all caps and 'VideoLAN' is split into two words now?
I'm not Felix, but speaking for me, zypper never made differences because of capital or small letters. And the pattern name is "VideoLAN - VLC media player", at least that is what my zypper tells me. It is located in the videolan repo at <http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/12.3/>, but it has no version number. Maybe Felix should try zypper -v in -t pattern "VideoLAN - VLC media player" At least, I get 'pattern:VideoLAN - VLC media player' is already installed. No update candidate for 'VideoLAN - VLC media player-.noarch'. The highest available version is already installed. HTH, Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-08-04 16:25 (GMT+0200) Werner Flamme composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
# zypper se -s vlc | grep tter v | VideoLAN - VLC media player | pattern | | noarch | VideoLAN
# zypper -v in -t pattern VideoLAN Verbosity: 1 Non-option program arguments: 'VideoLAN' Initializing Target Checking whether to refresh metadata for Non-OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for Packman Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No 'VideoLAN' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'pattern:VideoLAN' found. Resolving package dependencies... Force resolution: No
And the pattern name is "VideoLAN - VLC media player", at least that is what my zypper tells me. It is located in the videolan repo at <http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/12.3/>, but it has no version number.
Maybe Felix should try
zypper -v in -t pattern "VideoLAN - VLC media player"
At least, I get
'pattern:VideoLAN - VLC media player' is already installed. No update candidate for 'VideoLAN - VLC media player-.noarch'. The highest available version is already installed.
HTH
It does. The new questions are: 1-Why does the pattern exist (particularly since YaST2 didn't seem to be able to discover it)? Doing that wants to install 38 packages. Doing 'zypper -v in vlc' instead wants to install the same 38 packages? 2-Why does any packager find it necessary to give a package (or pattern) a 27 character name containing 4 separate instances of whitespace? That pattern "name" looks like a name followed by a description. 3-Repeat of $SUBJECT, meaning if zypper se can find it, should there not be some kind of fuzzy fallback that enables zypper to find it via substring instead of having to type something so lengthy? Surely there wouldn't be anything else with so prolix a name to confuse it with. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
[04.08.2013 17:45] [Felix Miata]:
On 2013-08-04 16:25 (GMT+0200) Werner Flamme composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
# zypper se -s vlc | grep tter v | VideoLAN - VLC media player | pattern | | noarch | VideoLAN
# zypper -v in -t pattern VideoLAN Verbosity: 1 Non-option program arguments: 'VideoLAN' Initializing Target Checking whether to refresh metadata for Non-OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for OSS Checking whether to refresh metadata for Packman Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No 'VideoLAN' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'pattern:VideoLAN' found. Resolving package dependencies... Force resolution: No
And the pattern name is "VideoLAN - VLC media player", at least that is what my zypper tells me. It is located in the videolan repo at <http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/12.3/>, but it has no version number.
Maybe Felix should try
zypper -v in -t pattern "VideoLAN - VLC media player"
At least, I get
'pattern:VideoLAN - VLC media player' is already installed. No update candidate for 'VideoLAN - VLC media player-.noarch'. The highest available version is already installed.
HTH
It does. The new questions are:
1-Why does the pattern exist (particularly since YaST2 didn't seem to be able to discover it)? Doing that wants to install 38 packages. Doing 'zypper -v in vlc' instead wants to install the same 38 packages?
When using the Software management module in YaST, choosing View -> Patterns, I find it near the top - the second pattern in the list, right after "Documentation". So, YaST does the discovery, maybe you have to discover this place first? ;-) The "search" function seems to search in rpm packages only. Obviously, the need for searching patterns never became so urgent that this has to be changed. Now that YaST has been translated into Ruby, more developers may work at the code.
2-Why does any packager find it necessary to give a package (or pattern) a 27 character name containing 4 separate instances of whitespace? That pattern "name" looks like a name followed by a description.
Using the command you mentioned, you see all this in the "name" column. Theer is no column separator. For me, it only looks like a windows packager named it ;-) (nobody will use it from command line, and inside YaST, the name is invisible).
3-Repeat of $SUBJECT, meaning if zypper se can find it, should there not be some kind of fuzzy fallback that enables zypper to find it via substring instead of having to type something so lengthy? Surely there wouldn't be anything else with so prolix a name to confuse it with.
In this given case, a "fuzzy fallback" might be nice. But considering patterns like patterns-openSUSE-xfce, patterns-openSUSE-xfce_basis, patterns-openSUSE-xfce_laptop, patterns-openSUSE-xfce_office - what would the fallback be here? It is very difficult do create a fallback method that will find the right thing in each case. Create a feature request and make it public, so that many people vote for it :-) Just my 2¢, Werner -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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