Athlon XP2200 freezes after a few hours use with kernel panic on reboot until (presumably) it's cooled down enough. I have the packman sensors rpm installed with 9.1 and am using gkrellm to monitor the sensors. The temp1 and temp2 sensors are working well I think, fluctuating between 35º and 55º but I can't get the fan sensors to show anything other than zero. Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working values for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to monitor the fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel? Cheers, Steve.
Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working values for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to monitor the fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel? Not sure about the fans part. Did you configure the sensors package??? My AMD 3000+ can work in the range that you gave in your email. The burn up temp on these chips I believe is 85 degrees C. Marshall
On Thursday 8 July 2004 02:43 pm, steve-ss wrote: <snip> | Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working values | for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to monitor the | fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel? I have an Asus AV7-133 mobo with an Athlon 1200 on one workstation. We see CPU temps of 48-55 degrees C, depending upon load ambient air temperature. Chassis temps range from 29-35 degrees C. We have never been able to get the fan rpm speed from the lm_sensors package, although the system BIOS displays it correctly. Mark -- _____________________________________________ A Message From... L. Mark Stone Reliable Networks of Maine, LLC 477 Congress Street, 5th Floor Portland, ME 04101 Tel: (207) 772-5678 Web: http://www.RNoME.com
On Thursday 08 July 2004 21:31, L. Mark Stone wrote:
On Thursday 8 July 2004 02:43 pm, steve-ss wrote: <snip>
| Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working | values for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to | monitor the fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel?
I have an Asus AV7-133 mobo with an Athlon 1200 on one workstation. We see CPU temps of 48-55 degrees C, depending upon load ambient air temperature. Chassis temps range from 29-35 degrees C.
We have never been able to get the fan rpm speed from the lm_sensors package, although the system BIOS displays it correctly.
Mark
In summer here we always seem to be on those upper ranges but another post indicates up to 85º is OK. I notice that the fan on the case (the one that makes the noise) can be mounted both ways, suck or blow. I wonder what is the correct way?
On Thursday 08 July 2004 22:36, steve-ss wrote:
On Thursday 08 July 2004 21:31, L. Mark Stone wrote:
On Thursday 8 July 2004 02:43 pm, steve-ss wrote: <snip>
| Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working | values for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to | monitor the fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel?
I have an Asus AV7-133 mobo with an Athlon 1200 on one workstation. We see CPU temps of 48-55 degrees C, depending upon load ambient air temperature. Chassis temps range from 29-35 degrees C.
We have never been able to get the fan rpm speed from the lm_sensors package, although the system BIOS displays it correctly.
Mark
In summer here we always seem to be on those upper ranges but another post indicates up to 85º is OK. I notice that the fan on the case (the one that makes the noise) can be mounted both ways, suck or blow. I wonder what is the correct way?
Usually there is an airflow from the front to the back. All fans sucking or blowing... Ya'now. ;P Cheers, Leen
steve-ss wrote:
<>On Thursday 08 July 2004 21:31, L. Mark Stone wrote:
In summer here we always seem to be on those upper ranges but another post indicates up to 85º is OK. I notice that the fan on the case (the one that makes the noise) can be mounted both ways, suck or blow. I wonder what is the correct way?
In general, if its a front mounted fan you want it to pull air into the box, if its rear mounted to send air out of the box. Air then flows from front to back.
On Thursday 08 July 2004 22:57, you wrote:
steve-ss wrote:
<>On Thursday 08 July 2004 21:31, L. Mark Stone wrote:
In summer here we always seem to be on those upper ranges but another post indicates up to 85º is OK. I notice that the fan on the case (the one that makes the noise) can be mounted both ways, suck or blow. I wonder what is the correct way?
In general, if its a front mounted fan you want it to pull air into the box, if its rear mounted to send air out of the box. Air then flows from front to back.
OK. Thanks. It's now correct. Is there any reason why I can't just remove the sides of the case and kill the rear mounted fan to remove the noise it makes? Cheers, Steve.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 | OK. Thanks. It's now correct. Is there any reason why I | can't just remove the sides of the case and kill the rear | mounted fan to remove the noise it makes? | Cheers, Steve. | That would be a really bad idea. The fans would then become useless. They are designed to be in an enclosed space. You would actually get *less* are flowing over and around the cpu and components. Just think about how a wind tunnel works and it might start to make sense. - --Sayf - -- Blue Moose IT Support www.bluemooseit.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA7leqh6qZaDhhuVMRApAQAKCFmCOaRFfG+QhVofVgBnJWMJxI8QCgxl7E MawvB6w0sgRILov5dft6S20= =+Crg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thursday 08 July 2004 14:31, L. Mark Stone wrote:
On Thursday 8 July 2004 02:43 pm, steve-ss wrote: <snip>
| Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working values | for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to monitor the | fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel?
I have an Asus AV7-133 mobo with an Athlon 1200 on one workstation. We see CPU temps of 48-55 degrees C, depending upon load ambient air temperature. Chassis temps range from 29-35 degrees C.
We have never been able to get the fan rpm speed from the lm_sensors package, although the system BIOS displays it correctly.
Mark Same thing here with MSI motherboard.
-- Indecision is the key to flexibility. -- Mitch Thompson, San Antonio, Texas//WB5UZG
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:31:40 -0400
"L. Mark Stone"
We have never been able to get the fan rpm speed from the lm_sensors package, although the system BIOS displays it correctly.
I had this problem. It was solved by changing the fan-divisors in the conf file. E.g. I changed:- set fan3_div 2 to set fan3_div 4 in /etc/sensors.conf and reran sensors -s c.f. the file lm_sensors-2.8.7/doc/fan-divisors - Richard. -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/
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I have the packman sensors rpm installed with 9.1 and am using gkrellm to monitor the sensors. The temp1 and temp2 sensors are working well I think, fluctuating between 35º and 55º but I can't get the fan sensors to show anything other than zero.
Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working values for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to monitor the fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel?
I think that lm_sensors is installed off the DVD, but you need the packman 2.8.6 to get user space tools, mainly sensors-detect (as root) to let you know with modules to load. I load i2c-core i2c-sensor i2c-viapro and asb100 based on results to sensors-detect. I load them in /etc/sysconfig/kernel. In gkrellm configuration Temp1 is the MotherBoard, Temp2 is the Chip temp, Temp3 is unused and Temp4 is the CPU. Fan1 is the CPU, Fan2 is the chassis fan and Fan3 is unused. Fan2 does not register a value in gkrellm or in sensors, until I run mbmon and let it cycle 2 or 3 times until is shows a fan speed. Try to find fvcool 1.03 (not sure about latest version number). Mbmon is at 2.0.2, I think. Xmbmon is an X graphical that shows same info as mbmon. Both of these have to be compiled, but I have never had a problem with completion. It drops the temps on my Athlon XP1800+ from about 131F to 110F or less depending on time of day and activity. Hope this helps. It allows the cpu to go idle when not in use. This feature is turned off by default. It does mess with sound, but I am more interested in controlling temps. Ed Harrison SuSE 9.1, Kernel 2.6.7-vanilla PolarBar Mailer 1.25a
On Thursday 08 July 2004 21:55, Ed Harrison wrote:
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on Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:43:54 +0200 I have the packman sensors rpm installed with 9.1 and am using gkrellm to monitor the sensors. The temp1 and temp2 sensors are working well I think, fluctuating between 35º and 55º but I can't get the fan sensors to show anything other than zero.
Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working values for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to monitor the fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel?
I think that lm_sensors is installed off the DVD, but you need the packman 2.8.6 to get user space tools, mainly sensors-detect (as root) to let you know with modules to load. I load i2c-core i2c-sensor i2c-viapro and asb100 based on results to sensors-detect. I load them in /etc/sysconfig/kernel.
Something seems to coincide. After using sensors-detect, in /etc/modprobe.conf.local I have: alias char-major-89 i2c-dev and in /etc/init.d/boot.local I have: # I2C adapter drivers modprobe i2c-viapro modprobe i2c-isa # I2C chip drivers modprobe eeprom modprobe w83627hf # sleep 2 # optional /usr/bin/sensors -s does that make sense? Thanks for your help, Steve.
torsdag 08 juli 2004 20:43 skrev steve-ss:
Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working values for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to monitor the fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel?
Have you monitored your fans, to see if they are working properly? This happened to one of my boxes here, with an Abit motherboard. It blew during one of the heatwaves, with this exact behaviour as a result. It had an onboard fan, on the south bridge, which stopped working properly. A heat of 55 degrees does not suggest that it's the CPU ... that's well below the perimeter for an AMD XP. Check your Bios weather it's set to alarm you when the cpu is overheating ... a very useful function. It may also be set a bit low, since that function can also "shutdown" the system if exceeding the upper margin (on any decent mb).
Cheers, Steve.
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Could anyone with an AMD give me reasonable working values for the temp1 and temp2 sensors? And/or how to monitor the fans correctly? Or must I move to Intel?
The CPU temp shouldn't be a problem - if it's a real 2200+. I had an Athlon 1200 that started producing panics at about 55 degrees C, and I suspect that I was mis-sold an overclocked 900 part. My current 2200+ usually stays at about 42 degrees (5 degrees over the case temp). If you worry about cooling, take the side panel off and watch the temp. It *should* improve :-) If stability also improves, that suggests it might be the temp. As for the fans - that depends on the sensors installed on your mobo and whether the fans are connected up properly. TBH, it shouldn't be an issue. If the fan stops, it's easy enough to tell by looking, and a failing fan usually becomes very noisy. John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Valley of the Kings: ransack an ancient Egyptian tomb but beware of mummies!
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steve-ss
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