Le 02/10/2022 à 09:16, Stephan Hemeier a écrit :

Yes, disable the codecs: https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1006922#request-creation

Is there any workaround to fix this nonsense ? -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info@microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

Le 02/10/2022 à 11:09, Stephan Hemeier a écrit :

PS : its the policy of openSUSE (and other distros) not to enable codecs with patents on it.

If you think really hard about this, then everybody should move right away to Trisquel Linux, a 100% free & libre distribution. Because who wants a working system, as long as we stick to the FSF's recommendations? Gentle reminder: a distribution's purpose is to make things easier for users. Or at least not unnecessarily hard. Debian, for example, does not include proprietary firmware by default. But you can still download the non-official ISO with a complete set of firmwares. For the record: I'm currently moving to Debian stable. I was a happy Leap user since 2017 (after having started on Slackware 7.1 back in the days). Leap worked so well the developers decided to wreck it in the near future or replace it by some containerized abomination. So I decided to give Tumbleweed a spin for the last couple months. I live in the remote south French countryside, so I discovered the joys of having to download shitloads of gigabytes every couple weeks or so, with their corresponding lots of surprises and the odd feature going belly-up and having to be potty-trained again. Call me a boring old fart, but I like my systems like I like my BMW motorcycle. Boring and reliable. So Debian it is. Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info@microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

Le 02/10/2022 à 11:50, jdd@dodin.org a écrit :

same here with packman, isn't it?

Not exactly. Packman is a third-party project. The sensible approach here would have been to coordinate this with the Packman guys instead of pulling the rug under the users' feet. A simple zypper dist-upgrade --allow-vendor-change would have fixed things. Now Tumbleweed users have to wait a couple days until their video playback works. Or a week. Or a couple weeks. Or more, go figure. -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info@microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12

On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 11:45 +0200, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

Le 02/10/2022 à 11:09, Stephan Hemeier a écrit :

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PS : its the policy of openSUSE (and other distros) not to enable codecs with patents on it.

If you think really hard about this, then everybody should move right away to Trisquel Linux, a 100% free & libre distribution. Because who wants a working system, as long as we stick to the FSF's recommendations?

You do understand the difference between proprietary but free (as in beer) versus software with licensing fees required, right? For example, NVidia drivers are the former kind whereas Adobe PhotoShop is the latter kind. As it turns out (to my best understand and IANAL), H.264 codecs are the latter kind as well, i.e. you cannot be allowed to ship libraries that allow encoding and decoding H.264 without paying a recurring licensing fee to MPEG-LA. And no, that most distros were not complying with said licensing is not an excuse to continue doing the same.

Gentle reminder: a distribution's purpose is to make things easier for users. Or at least not unnecessarily hard.

And to definitely do nothing illegal. I am simply trying to throw some light on the issue, that's all. Have a nice day. -- Atri