[opensuse] 32bit firefox--again :(
Sigh, groan, Well, having persuaded my system to run 32bit flash under the 64bit firefox, I now have another problem, and I think I have to have the 32bit firefox after all. I need to run Java in my browser... I've tried using nspluginwrapper, and it rejects all the plugin .so files that I thought might be contenders (I downloaded a 32bit jre separately from my regular 64bit one) Soooo... two questions: 1) How do folks run Java in firefox on a 64bit linux system? 2) Assuming I have to have a 32bit Firefox, where the heck do I get it, as all my attempts so far have been preempted, and I've always ended up with a 64bit version somehow? [[ and 3) I hardly dare ask for fear of either looking stupid (too late!) or starting a religious war, but how much performance benefit do I really get from running 64bit? Does anyone have any representative metrics? I'm not interested in "well, obviously this, and that" because in my experience "obvious" factors affect performance in very non-obvious ways. But I'll take a serious gut feeling from anyone who has tried both on the same hardware in the absence of actual measurements.]] Thanks again all, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Simon Roberts <thorpflyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sigh, groan,
Well, having persuaded my system to run 32bit flash under the 64bit firefox, I now have another problem, and I think I have to have the 32bit firefox after all.
I need to run Java in my browser...
I've tried using nspluginwrapper, and it rejects all the plugin .so files that I thought might be contenders (I downloaded a 32bit jre separately from my regular 64bit one)
Soooo... two questions:
1) How do folks run Java in firefox on a 64bit linux system?
2) Assuming I have to have a 32bit Firefox, where the heck do I get it, as all my attempts so far have been preempted, and I've always ended up with a 64bit version somehow?
[[ and 3) I hardly dare ask for fear of either looking stupid (too late!) or starting a religious war, but how much performance benefit do I really get from running 64bit? Does anyone have any representative metrics? I'm not interested in "well, obviously this, and that" because in my experience "obvious" factors affect performance in very non-obvious ways. But I'll take a serious gut feeling from anyone who has tried both on the same hardware in the absence of actual measurements.]]
Thanks again all, Simon
"You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz
I don't have Java (JRE) installed with my 64-bit firefox setup. Do you really need it? Most of what I come across is either JavaScript or Flash. I have 32-bit flash installed and JavaScript is built into firefox. As to selecting which build, I do it from Yast2. Click on Software Management, search for firefox. Then the secret is to click on the versions tab at the bottom and move the radio button to the version you want. HTH Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Simon Roberts wrote:
Sigh, groan,
Well, having persuaded my system to run 32bit flash under the 64bit firefox, I now have another problem, and I think I have to have the 32bit firefox after all.
I need to run Java in my browser...
I've tried using nspluginwrapper, and it rejects all the plugin .so files that I thought might be contenders (I downloaded a 32bit jre separately from my regular 64bit one)
Soooo... two questions:
1) How do folks run Java in firefox on a 64bit linux system?
2) Assuming I have to have a 32bit Firefox, where the heck do I get it,
www.mozilla.org always works. Install it in /opt, and make a link on your desktop pointing at the executable in /opt/firefox or whatever you want to call the directory you put it into. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Simon Roberts wrote:
Sigh, groan,
Well, having persuaded my system to run 32bit flash under the 64bit firefox, I now have another problem, and I think I have to have the 32bit firefox after all.
I need to run Java in my browser...
I've tried using nspluginwrapper, and it rejects all the plugin .so files that I thought might be contenders (I downloaded a 32bit jre separately from my regular 64bit one)
Soooo... two questions:
1) How do folks run Java in firefox on a 64bit linux system?
2) Assuming I have to have a 32bit Firefox, where the heck do I get it, as all my attempts so far have been preempted, and I've always ended up with a 64bit version somehow?
[[ and 3) I hardly dare ask for fear of either looking stupid (too late!) or starting a religious war, but how much performance benefit do I really get from running 64bit? Does anyone have any representative metrics? I'm not interested in "well, obviously this, and that" because in my experience "obvious" factors affect performance in very non-obvious ways. But I'll take a serious gut feeling from anyone who has tried both on the same hardware in the absence of actual measurements.]]
#3. in my experience, once again "in my experience", 64bit is slow than 32bit. i got this experience when installing 10.0 on one of my office PC (dual core - 1 GB mem). one GB is like having half of them. i did not have try it using 10.3 yet, but i think i will try 64bit later in 2010.
Thanks again all, Simon
"You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." — Naguib Mahfouz
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Hi, Simon Roberts wrote:
Sigh, groan,
Well, having persuaded my system to run 32bit flash under the 64bit firefox, I now have another problem, and I think I have to have the 32bit firefox after all.
I need to run Java in my browser...
I've tried using nspluginwrapper, and it rejects all the plugin .so files that I thought might be contenders (I downloaded a 32bit jre separately from my regular 64bit one)
Soooo... two questions:
1) How do folks run Java in firefox on a 64bit linux system?
2) Assuming I have to have a 32bit Firefox, where the heck do I get it, as all my attempts so far have been preempted, and I've always ended up with a 64bit version somehow?
[[ and 3) I hardly dare ask for fear of either looking stupid (too late!) or starting a religious war, but how much performance benefit do I really get from running 64bit? Does anyone have any representative metrics? I'm not interested in "well, obviously this, and that" because in my experience "obvious" factors affect performance in very non-obvious ways. But I'll take a serious gut feeling from anyone who has tried both on the same hardware in the absence of actual measurements.]]
This site has hints for different approaches to solve that: http://en.opensuse.org/Java/How_To_use_Java_with_Firefox_on_64-bit_openSuSE_... And as explained in some other replies it's possible (but not easy or intuitive) to install the 32bit version with YaST. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Hi,
Simon Roberts wrote:
Sigh, groan,
Well, having persuaded my system to run 32bit flash under the 64bit firefox, I now have another problem, and I think I have to have the 32bit firefox after all.
I need to run Java in my browser...
I've tried using nspluginwrapper, and it rejects all the plugin .so files that I thought might be contenders (I downloaded a 32bit jre separately from my regular 64bit one)
Soooo... two questions:
1) How do folks run Java in firefox on a 64bit linux system?
2) Assuming I have to have a 32bit Firefox, where the heck do I get it, as all my attempts so far have been preempted, and I've always ended up with a 64bit version somehow?
[[ and 3) I hardly dare ask for fear of either looking stupid (too late!) or starting a religious war, but how much performance benefit do I really get from running 64bit? Does anyone have any representative metrics? I'm not interested in "well, obviously this, and that" because in my experience "obvious" factors affect performance in very non-obvious ways. But I'll take a serious gut feeling from anyone who has tried both on the same hardware in the absence of actual measurements.]]
This site has hints for different approaches to solve that:
http://en.opensuse.org/Java/How_To_use_Java_with_Firefox_on_64-bit_openSuSE_...
And as explained in some other replies it's possible (but not easy or intuitive) to install the 32bit version with YaST.
I just download Mozilla's installer, and install to /opt, and just maintain it completely outside of YaST. In over 4 years, I haven't had a problem yet. I originally started doing that because Mozilla updates weren't propagating into Yast Online Update very quickly (if at all). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Evens Garde wrote:
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
This site has hints for different approaches to solve that:
http://en.opensuse.org/Java/How_To_use_Java_with_Firefox_on_64-bit_openSuSE_...
And as explained in some other replies it's possible (but not easy or intuitive) to install the 32bit version with YaST.
I just download Mozilla's installer, and install to /opt, and just maintain it completely outside of YaST. In over 4 years, I haven't had a problem yet.
I originally started doing that because Mozilla updates weren't propagating into Yast Online Update very quickly (if at all).
Everyone is free to do what he think is best. I'm trying to make the mozilla stuff in openSUSE to be used as smooth as possible. So latest stable stuff is always available in the "mozilla" OBS repository (usually at the very same time as mozilla.com's). Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Evens Garde wrote:
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
This site has hints for different approaches to solve that:
http://en.opensuse.org/Java/How_To_use_Java_with_Firefox_on_64-bit_openSuSE_...
And as explained in some other replies it's possible (but not easy or intuitive) to install the 32bit version with YaST.
I just download Mozilla's installer, and install to /opt, and just maintain it completely outside of YaST. In over 4 years, I haven't had a problem yet.
I originally started doing that because Mozilla updates weren't propagating into Yast Online Update very quickly (if at all).
Everyone is free to do what he think is best. I'm trying to make the mozilla stuff in openSUSE to be used as smooth as possible. So latest stable stuff is always available in the "mozilla" OBS repository (usually at the very same time as mozilla.com's).
It's not difficult. Normally, I download the latest installer package ...and then, whenever I get around to it, I install it. It takes all of 6 commands: $ su # tar xvzf mozilla_filename_here then I run the installer: # ./seamonkey-installer/seamonkey-installer I normally put each new version into a new directory ie. /opt/seamonkey1.1.9 and then # cd /opt # rm seamonkey # previous symbolic link to previous seamonkey # ln -s seamonkey1.1.9 seamonkey # link now points at latest to copy all accumulated plugins: # cp -i seamonkeyX.Y.Z/plugins/* seamonkey/plugins (when the null plugin comes up, answer no) Then, because I like to have multizilla, i start it as root: # /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey http://multizilla.mozdev.org/ And install it for everyone (i.e. "cancel" = "all users") I wish the multizilla people would figure out how to make it install in for a single, non-root user .
Wolfgang
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[Could you please limit your line length to something below 75 characters please?] On Thu, 29 May 2008 15:21:11 -0700 (PDT), Simon Roberts wrote:
I've tried using nspluginwrapper, and it rejects all the plugin .so files that I thought might be contenders (I downloaded a 32bit jre separately from my regular 64bit one)
The java plugin doesn't use the documented plugin API, so the plugin wrapper is no help. You could try Java 7 (icedtea) from the factory tree (http://software.opensuse.org/search and search for icedtea). This contains a 64 bit java plugin. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Evens Garde
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Simon Roberts
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Wolfgang Rosenauer