[opensuse] Aargh! - Why does krunner keep disappearing??
Guys, When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't.
Hmm, things are working here (also the taskbar-icon-select thing) - but I had problems with the latter before, too. Did an update yestarday and a reboot, too - maybe something's fixed already? Pit -- Dr. Peter "Pit" Suetterlin http://www.astro.su.se/~pit Institute for Solar Physics Tel.: +34 922 405 590 (Spain) P.Suetterlin@royac.iac.es +46 8 5537 8507 (Sweden) Peter.Suetterlin@astro.su.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 27/02/10 13:09, Pit Suetterlin wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't.
Hmm, things are working here (also the taskbar-icon-select thing) - but I had problems with the latter before, too. Did an update yestarday and a reboot, too - maybe something's fixed already?
Pit I'm afraid krunner in 4.4.0 hasn't been as reliable as it should be for me either ... every so often I have to "kquitapp krunner && kdeinit4_wrapper krunner" to get it back to full responsiveness.
aseigo's done some work that might help that should have made it into 4.4.1 (haven't checked, but it should be released very soon, KKFD already has it but isn't published): http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/02/krunner-responsiveness.html Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 27 February 2010 03:51:57 David C. Rankin wrote:
When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't.
I guess that it's crashing. KRunner uses multiple 'Runners' running in their own threads. If you click the wrench icon at the left side of the KRunner popup, you can disable individual runners. Could you try to disable individual runners (binary search?) to determine which one is dying? You can also restart krunner in gdb in a shell to get a backtrace of the crashing runner with killall krunner && gdb --args krunner --nocrashhandler --nofork then 'run', then when it dies 'bt', copy that, finally 'quit' to get out of gdb, killing the dead and suspended krunner process. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 02/26/2010 08:51 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't.
Krunner works fine as long as you deselect everything except having krunner load programs and run scripts. I was amazed when I clicked preferences in krunner in kde44 and saw that krunner was filtering the input against all email address, bookmarks, dictionaries, wiki pages, the qt4 manual, walking the neighbors dog, etc..... One of those "features" is broken causing krunner to crash when you get to the 3rd or 4th character. Deselecting everything has restored krunners usefulness. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [03-09-10 22:50]:
On 02/26/2010 08:51 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't.
Krunner works fine as long as you deselect everything except having krunner load programs and run scripts.
I was amazed when I clicked preferences in krunner in kde44 and saw that krunner was filtering the input against all email address, bookmarks, dictionaries, wiki pages, the qt4 manual, walking the neighbors dog, etc..... One of those "features" is broken causing krunner to crash when you get to the 3rd or 4th character. Deselecting everything has restored krunners usefulness.
Don't know why you would be amazed. Didn't you remark that you killed akonadi* and .... ? krunner would need that to search thru your contacts A shotgun might be more effective :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/9/2010 8:00 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [03-09-10 22:50]:
On 02/26/2010 08:51 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't.
Krunner works fine as long as you deselect everything except having krunner load programs and run scripts.
I was amazed when I clicked preferences in krunner in kde44 and saw that krunner was filtering the input against all email address, bookmarks, dictionaries, wiki pages, the qt4 manual, walking the neighbors dog, etc..... One of those "features" is broken causing krunner to crash when you get to the 3rd or 4th character. Deselecting everything has restored krunners usefulness.
Don't know why you would be amazed. Didn't you remark that you killed akonadi* and .... ?
krunner would need that to search thru your contacts
A shotgun might be more effective :^)
Why would krunner (who's main job is to prevent you having to launch a shell simply to launch a program) need to search thru contacts or thru akonadi? This is feature creep run amok. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/9/2010 7:45 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 02/26/2010 08:51 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't.
Krunner works fine as long as you deselect everything except having krunner load programs and run scripts.
I was amazed when I clicked preferences in krunner in kde44 and saw that krunner was filtering the input against all email address, bookmarks, dictionaries, wiki pages, the qt4 manual, walking the neighbors dog, etc..... One of those "features" is broken causing krunner to crash when you get to the 3rd or 4th character. Deselecting everything has restored krunners usefulness.
Wow! I had no idea that thing bloated up to do all those unwanted (and unadvertised) things. No wonder it is dog slow. I unchecked everything and its much better. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/03/10 19:17, John Andersen wrote:
On 3/9/2010 7:45 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 02/26/2010 08:51 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
When I try Alt+F2 in kde44, krunner appears for a second, but when I type in the second or third char, krunner disappears. Anybody got a fix? I use it more than the menu and now you --- can't.
Krunner works fine as long as you deselect everything except having krunner load programs and run scripts.
I was amazed when I clicked preferences in krunner in kde44 and saw that krunner was filtering the input against all email address, bookmarks, dictionaries, wiki pages, the qt4 manual, walking the neighbors dog, etc..... One of those "features" is broken causing krunner to crash when you get to the 3rd or 4th character. Deselecting everything has restored krunners usefulness.
Wow! I had no idea that thing bloated up to do all those unwanted (and unadvertised) things. No wonder it is dog slow. I unchecked everything and its much better.
This has come up before, have a look at my post on the -kde list http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-03/msg00031.html I found the "Control Audio player" and "Windows" runners are buggy and cause random freezes. Disable them for sure. Also, all the web-lookup runners are slow for obvious reasons and so disabling them is a good idea too. Because I have strigi turned off I disabled the nepomuk runner. And the "Contacts" runner doesn't appear to work with Akonadi so that can go off too. And the "Terminate Applications" doesn't work. With these off my krunner is nice and fast, no problems. Krunner supporting plugins is great, but maybe which ones are on by default should be thought about more carefully ... Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 3/10/2010 1:29 PM, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
This has come up before, have a look at my post on the -kde list
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2010-03/msg00031.html
I found the "Control Audio player" and "Windows" runners are buggy and cause random freezes. Disable them for sure. Also, all the web-lookup runners are slow for obvious reasons and so disabling them is a good idea too. Because I have strigi turned off I disabled the nepomuk runner. And the "Contacts" runner doesn't appear to work with Akonadi so that can go off too. And the "Terminate Applications" doesn't work. With these off my krunner is nice and fast, no problems.
Krunner supporting plugins is great, but maybe which ones are on by default should be thought about more carefully ...
Regards, Tejas
This seems to have morphed into a substitution for a REAL search facility. What would be wrong with a REAL search facility? The swiss army knife approach to basic system utilities is not really helpful in my opinion. It obfuscates functionality. Plugins for plugins sake don't impress me much. Wasn't this at least part of the reason Kong got gutted and replaced with Dolphin internals? T -- _____________________________________ At one time I had a Real Sig. Its been downsized. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/03/10 22:07, John Andersen wrote:
On 3/10/2010 1:29 PM, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
Krunner supporting plugins is great, but maybe which ones are on by default should be thought about more carefully ...
This seems to have morphed into a substitution for a REAL search facility. What would be wrong with a REAL search facility?
Eh? If by "REAL search" you mean file name search, kfind works as well as always ... all the krunner stuff is in addition, don't know what you feel you are missing ... And you can even have superfast file name search integrated into krunner, if you have nepomuk/strigi on. And the bits of krunner that do work (and most of it does work, just a few broken runners spoiling the party) are incredibly useful, bordering on indispensable.
The swiss army knife approach to basic system utilities is not really helpful in my opinion. It obfuscates functionality. Plugins for plugins sake don't impress me much.
Wasn't this at least part of the reason Kong got gutted and replaced with Dolphin internals? T
There was a strong argument that it was better to have a separate file manager and browser, so that each application could focus on a task properly. Not sure what you're trying to link that to plugins for? But anyway, best not to prolong that discussion topic. Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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