Hi, At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse. It is a Logitech M90. A simple thing, a red LED pointing to the table and some sensor that decodes movement directly. No ball. With cable. It doesn't work well on the table (smooth white PVC), so I put it on a paper. One of those with millilitre lines for science graphs. Well, sometimes it moves and then stops, like if the ghost ball would be dirty and not moving well the ancient wheels inside, stuck. So I bang the mouse against the table as if to dislodge the dirt (there is none) from the non existing ball and wheels, and the funny thing is, it works again. What could be really be causing this? Leap 15.4, XFCE. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
I can thoroughly recommend getting a cat. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-0.1°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes
On 2023-01-26 17:54, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
I can thoroughly recommend getting a cat.
LOL :-DDDD Good thing my tea cup was resting at the table, or I'd be now cleaning my new (refurbished) monitor. I "have not" a cat, in the sense I don't own him/her: it is a feral, at this beach place. Somebody triggered the alarm camera on the terrace, the security people phoned me in alarm. Intruder alert! They could not contact me (phone choose that moment to not have signal), and when they finally looked at the photo they saw it was a cat sitting there, enjoying the sun. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)
* Per Jessen <per@jessen.ch> [01-26-23 11:56]:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
I can thoroughly recommend getting a cat.
A large dog would be better. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
In data giovedì 26 gennaio 2023 19:58:22 CET, James Knott ha scritto:
On 2023-01-26 11:54, Per Jessen wrote:
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
I can thoroughly recommend getting a cat. looks like a lady to me.
What her name? "Dryer Queen?" :-)
On 1/26/2023 11:45 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
It is a Logitech M90. A simple thing, a red LED pointing to the table and some sensor that decodes movement directly. No ball. With cable.
It doesn't work well on the table (smooth white PVC), so I put it on a paper. One of those with millilitre lines for science graphs.
Well, sometimes it moves and then stops, like if the ghost ball would be dirty and not moving well the ancient wheels inside, stuck. So I bang the mouse against the table as if to dislodge the dirt (there is none) from the non existing ball and wheels, and the funny thing is, it works again.
What could be really be causing this?
Leap 15.4, XFCE.
If different surfaces make no difference, likely a defective mouse. Perhaps "lens" is dirty, perhaps a "cold solder" joint or defective wiring within the mouse. They are cheap enough these days.
On 2023-01-26 17:55, joe a wrote:
On 1/26/2023 11:45 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
...
What could be really be causing this?
Leap 15.4, XFCE.
If different surfaces make no difference, likely a defective mouse. Perhaps "lens" is dirty, perhaps a "cold solder" joint or defective wiring within the mouse.
They are cheap enough these days.
Maybe I should try a piece of wood or a cloth. [...] Found a piece of cardboard. Do they sell mouse mats these days? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)
On 2023-01-26 18:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-01-26 17:55, joe a wrote:
On 1/26/2023 11:45 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
...
Maybe I should try a piece of wood or a cloth. [...] Found a piece of cardboard. Do they sell mouse mats these days?
Cardboard is working well. I just need one with the proper size and shape. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)
In data giovedì 26 gennaio 2023 18:36:25 CET, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:
On 2023-01-26 18:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-01-26 17:55, joe a wrote:
On 1/26/2023 11:45 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
...
Maybe I should try a piece of wood or a cloth. [...] Found a piece of cardboard. Do they sell mouse mats these days?
Cardboard is working well. I just need one with the proper size and shape.
-- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)
In my experience, less is the mouse accurate and the laser old, less it handles uneven surfaces. Also the degree of reflective capacity make the difference. My hint would be: - even (that means flat) surface without scratches or waves and so on. - non reflective surface, tissues surfaces work very well (like the ones of rubber with gelly and tissue on it to avoid the carpal tunnel). - consider to use a cabled trackball, it may be more convenient if you require precision of movement. - a source of "stop and go" is disk activity (swapping) and some program doing it that has been programmed badly not allowing multitasking that is, it "holds" the action so others cannot do anything until that program finishes the request. (Normally I did see this only with windows, I had the case while doing these days contemporaneously a re-sync (scrub) of a RAID 1 and simultaneously on another disk a smart test extended version. There the "pointer" froze quite some times. Which is logic as the smart does not allow the disk other actions when doing the writing tests. So software question: did you have some scheduled low level activity running when this happens like "smart" or "scrub of a Raid"? - I strongly advise against taking a cat. Take a dog instead. A cat once it has eaten says "f....off". A dog once it has eaten just tries to f.... your leg. Which is much more social. (Does not move your mouse pointer though).
On 2023-01-26 19:50, Stakanov wrote:
In data giovedì 26 gennaio 2023 18:36:25 CET, Carlos E. R. ha scritto:
On 2023-01-26 18:05, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-01-26 17:55, joe a wrote:
On 1/26/2023 11:45 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
At this secondary location I have a rebellious mouse.
...
Cardboard is working well. I just need one with the proper size and shape.
In my experience, less is the mouse accurate and the laser old, less it handles uneven surfaces. Also the degree of reflective capacity make the difference. My hint would be: - even (that means flat) surface without scratches or waves and so on. - non reflective surface, tissues surfaces work very well (like the ones of rubber with gelly and tissue on it to avoid the carpal tunnel).
Cardboard (from an Ikea box) is working quite well.
- consider to use a cabled trackball, it may be more convenient if you require precision of movement.
I use a trackball at home, works very well. A decade (or more) old unit. For this location, where other people use it, a cheap mouse seemed the thing to have.
- a source of "stop and go" is disk activity (swapping) and some program doing it that has been programmed badly not allowing multitasking that is, it "holds" the action so others cannot do anything until that program finishes the request. (Normally I did see this only with windows, I had the case while doing these days contemporaneously a re-sync (scrub) of a RAID 1 and simultaneously on another disk a smart test extended version. There the "pointer" froze quite some times. Which is logic as the smart does not allow the disk other actions when doing the writing tests. So software question: did you have some scheduled low level activity running when this happens like "smart" or "scrub of a Raid"?
Nope, nothing of the sort. The machine is "old", so not very powerful for today, but the load was very light. I have an applet continuously drawing a tiny graph at the bottom; and this applet also displays "I/O wait" percent (Multiload-ng on XFCE).
- I strongly advise against taking a cat. Take a dog instead. A cat once it has eaten says "f....off". A dog once it has eaten just tries to f.... your leg. Which is much more social. (Does not move your mouse pointer though).
:-DD I like both cats and dogs, but I prefer dogs :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from Elesar, using openSUSE Leap 15.4)
Am Donnerstag, 26. Januar 2023, 17:45:56 CET schrieb Carlos E. R.:
It is a Logitech M90. A simple thing, a red LED pointing to the table and some sensor that decodes movement directly. No ball. With cable.
It doesn't work well on the table (smooth white PVC), so I put it on a paper. One of those with millilitre lines for science graphs.
I've tried paper (newspaper actually) for an optical mouse on a too-shiny surface - didn't work either. Get either a proper mousepad, or a different mouse. Cheers MH -- Mathias Homann Mathias.Homann@openSUSE.org Jabber (XMPP): lemmy@tuxonline.tech Matrix: @mathias:eregion.de IRC: [Lemmy] on freenode and ircnet (bouncer active) keybase: https://keybase.io/lemmy gpg key fingerprint: 8029 2240 F4DD 7776 E7D2 C042 6B8E 029E 13F2 C102
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Carlos E. R.
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James Knott
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joe a
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Mathias Homann
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Patrick Shanahan
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Per Jessen
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Stakanov