The tale of a KDE/Nautilus Nightmare!!!!
Finally have a stable system back so I can get on here and hopefully find out what caused my recent nightmare? There are questions in here! I boot into init3 (v8.2) and load kde from 'startx' command. Yesterday, I went into gnome to set some fonts and styles/themes so that my gnome apps looked a bit better in kde (and I guess check it out a bit). I know the control centre runs from within kde, but here it crashes a lot doing that. Anyway, on next loading kde, it loads fine but then!!!!!!!!!, not one but a continuous stream of gnome desktops with nautilus file manager trying to load. An error box popped up (about icon view fault) and it just kept respawning at a rate of knots. It hogged the keyboard so I could not even Ctl-Alt-F2 or Ctl-Alt-Bkspce to find a way out. I could find no other way out after 10 minutes and dozens of these desktops popping up and falling over so I took the punt and powered off. I know under 8.1 you had to go into Nautilus setup and turn off a setting about drawing the desktop. I have no idea where that setting has gone, I certainly could not find anything like it. Even so, the old problem just drew the nautilus desktop (ie gnome icons) once. This was a rampaging runaway process of rapid fire file manager windows on top of the gnome desktop but still showing the kde panel (not working though). The other change I got caught out by was that you have to set a new variation on the kde 'save session' setting becuse the default appears to be to save the session and of course that meant the damn problem gets saved. I figured that out I think, you change the setting to restore a maually saved session only and then you get the 'save session' option near the logout menu item. On reboot, at init 3, I logged in and killed all directories dealing with kde, gnome, nautilus, metacity as well as .kderc; started X and have a standard kde desktop with problem gone. Luckily I don't tweak too much so a quick session in kde control centre and I'm travelling ok again. Sorry to just rave on! Can anyone give me a clue as to what happened here to cause this nightmare. At the moment I have simply sworn never to enter gnome again :-) And can anyone tell me where the Naultilus setting has gone? Could I have just killed the kde 'saved session'? Was there any other way to solve this - bearing in mind my hard disk was thrashing away and my keyboard and mouse were almost totally non-responsive? IMHO, whilst it is nice to have desktop choice in Linux, it really would be nice if they played together a little better. I'll stay with kde for now and maybe read up on Windowmaker or Fluxbox I think! Paul.
And can anyone tell me where the Naultilus setting has gone? Could I have just killed the kde 'saved session'? Was there any other way to solve this - bearing in mind my hard disk was thrashing away and my keyboard and mouse were almost totally non-responsive?
It's been hidden away in GConf - I think the GNOME/Nautilus dev team figured that the majority of ordinary users (their target audience) wouldn't want to use it... Open up the GConf Editor, and uncheck the key /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
IMHO, whilst it is nice to have desktop choice in Linux, it really would be nice if they played together a little better. I'll stay with kde for now and maybe read up on Windowmaker or Fluxbox I think!
To an extent, that's what freedesktop.org is about -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.2) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
In a previous message, Paul Trevethan wrote:
I know under 8.1 you had to go into Nautilus setup and turn off a setting about drawing the desktop. I have no idea where that setting has gone, I certainly could not find anything like it.
In 8.2 (i.e. Gnome2.2), this seems to have moved out of Nautilus. Rather annoyingly, the only way to control this is now using GConf editor. Open 'gconf-editor', then select "apps" from the list on the left, then "nautilus", then "preferences". From the list of options that appears on the right, you need to find "show_desktop" and deselect it, then quit gconf-editor. HTH John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Valley of the Kings: ransack an ancient Egyptian tomb but beware of mummies!
In a previous message, Paul Trevethan wrote:
I know under 8.1 you had to go into Nautilus setup and turn off a setting about drawing the desktop
But, as you mentioned (and I meant to say in the first post), this does sound like a different issue. John -- John Pettigrew XL Cambridge - contract and freelance editing Biology specialist Molecular biology, genetics, biotechnology john@xl-cambridge.com http://www.xl-cambridge.com/ PGP public key available
On Fri, 30 May 2003 16:17:44 +0100
John Pettigrew
In a previous message, Paul Trevethan wrote:
I know under 8.1 you had to go into Nautilus setup and turn off a setting about drawing the desktop
But, as you mentioned (and I meant to say in the first post), this does sound like a different issue.
John
Thanks John (and James Ogley). I am pretty sure it would have only been about a year or so before I stumbled across the gconf-editor change! :-) I had wondered about including the gconf stuff in the configs I blew away but in the end I did not and it appears did not need to. This change is nice to know but you're right, I still have no idea at all what caused the runaway process of nautilus just trying to load and load and load and load and........? It appears to be the old problem + the runaway? Hmmm? Paul.
In a previous message, Paul Trevethan wrote:
I still have no idea at all what caused the runaway process of nautilus just trying to load and load and load and load and........? It appears to be the old problem + the runaway? Hmmm?
That sounds right. I doubt there's a way now to find out what really happened - unless you want to try and make it happen again :-) John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Knossos: escape the ever-changing labyrinth before the Minotaur catches you!
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