[opensuse] Nvida irritations
One step forward, three steps back ... Once upon a time I could use acroread, foxit, and the like to read PDF with scrolling being smooth. A while back I tried installing the proprietary nvidia driver and every few hours my system would 'freeze', going from its normal load factor of <5 to 25 or more. Its hard to do any monitoring when that happens but it seems that the time was taken with either kwin or kswap0. I don't know why and I don't know why that pushed to load factor up and the responsiveness down. When it worked, the nvidia driver was great. Tke KDE eye candy like cube rotation, was fast and everything danced. But four or more times a day things froze. I un-installed the driver and went back to 'nv' in in xorg config, but I think that the nvidia installation had done other things because now the scrolling, certainly of documents in full screen mode, and that goes for things like LibreOffice as well, is jerky. Of course editing small windows like this one to compose this message which isn't scrolling and just echoing characters, that's OK. Not demanding. Scrolling a pick list, even one like the list of messages in Thunderbird, is OK. Superficially it seems to be a full screen problem. I'm in no hurry to go back to the intermittent freezes but I don't recall this behaviour before I tried the proprietary driver. I'm no X guru; I can get it working but I don't know about tuning. Any hints, even as to running the proprietary drivers without the freezes, would be welcome. LSPCI tells me 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 6100 nForce 405] -- ... it is easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them to work at all. In other words... their fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design flaws. -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, on the products of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-05-12 18:00 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
I un-installed the driver and went back to 'nv' in in xorg config, but I think that the nvidia installation had done other things because now the scrolling, certainly of documents in full screen mode, and that goes for things like LibreOffice as well, is jerky.
Did you go back to nv on purpose, as in never any happiness with nouveau? Nouveau is the NVidia KMS driver, which won't function if the proprietary driver's installer/remover left nomodeset or equivalent KMS disabler on cmdline. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/12/2014 06:12 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2014-05-12 18:00 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
I un-installed the driver and went back to 'nv' in in xorg config, but I think that the nvidia installation had done other things because now the scrolling, certainly of documents in full screen mode, and that goes for things like LibreOffice as well, is jerky.
Did you go back to nv on purpose, as in never any happiness with nouveau? Nouveau is the NVidia KMS driver, which won't function if the proprietary driver's installer/remover left nomodeset or equivalent KMS disabler on cmdline.
I had been using nv before trying the proprietary driver. Are you _recommending_ nouveau? I see that yes, nomodeset is in the cmdline -- Quality is not an act - it is a habit. -- Aristotle -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-05-12 19:04 (GMT-0400) Anton Aylward composed:
Are you _recommending_ nouveau?
The few Nvidia cards I have are all using nouveau at least since 12.2, maybe 11.4 or older. I can't remember any of them needing nv since quite some kernels ago. Nouveau seems to be a lot better than several years ago. I never use proprietary video drivers on any of my Linux systems. Most of my systems not using Intel video are using ATI. The newest non-Intel gfxchip here is probably 8 years old by now. One system has SiS (dismal). 3 have MGA (not bad for 15 years old). But, they are work and test machines, not video playtoys. I have suitable simpler toys for playing video than x86 PCs. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-05-13 00:00, Anton Aylward wrote:
I un-installed the driver and went back to 'nv' in in xorg config, but I
You uninstalled the rpm, the easy way? Because the Nvidia driver replaces some libraries that belong to other rpms, so changing a config file is not enough, as you have to reinstall those rpms to have the original libraries back. With the rpm going back should be simple. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlNxSHsACgkQja8UbcUWM1z7DAD/QztaaVrgiWZQfoqUXmpaldqs rLavJC39LJeKLvnXToMBAJy2785+iQh+pCkN5y986ED9/6J68AfzvJExrXeDr/oJ =plaC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/12/2014 06:17 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-05-13 00:00, Anton Aylward wrote:
I un-installed the driver and went back to 'nv' in in xorg config, but I
You uninstalled the rpm, the easy way? Because the Nvidia driver replaces some libraries that belong to other rpms, so changing a config file is not enough, as you have to reinstall those rpms to have the original libraries back.
With the rpm going back should be simple.
Yes I uninstalled the rpm. That triggered the kernel rebuild ... I don't know about other libraries, it didn't seem to install any replacement. Am I supposed to install another rpm to restore those? -- We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. -- T.S. Eliot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Anton Aylward wrote:
Its hard to do any monitoring when that happens but it seems that the time was taken with either kwin or kswap0. I don't know why and I don't know why that pushed to load factor up and the responsiveness down.
You're not the only one with that problem. I've had it too, both with my old AMD CPU motherboard & Nvidia video carn and my new Intel CPU with Intel video. There's a report about it in Bugzilla IIRC. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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