[opensuse] pata and sata
I know that pata (aka ide) drives are organised with two connectors each for two drives (master and slave) on the mother board. But I don't have any sata drives personnaly, so I can't try. but I need to know: how are they organised? is there still the distinction master/slave? are they only standard scsi drives? how many drives on the same cable (or are they like scsi a chain?) a friend of mine have two western digital drives and the second is not always seen by openSUSE 1.2, I try to fix the problem :-() thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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I know that pata (aka ide) drives are organised with two connectors each for two drives (master and slave) on the mother board.
But I don't have any sata drives personnaly, so I can't try. but I need to know: how are they organised? is there still the distinction master/slave? are they only standard scsi drives? how many drives on the same cable (or are they like scsi a chain?)
a friend of mine have two western digital drives and the second is not always seen by openSUSE 1.2, I try to fix the problem :-() thanks jdd only 1 drive per connector, no jumpers.
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lala wrote:
only 1 drive per connector, no jumpers.
Note that multilane/port multipliers allow multiple drives to be connected to one serial ATA port. This is commonly used with external SATA enclosures. Personally I use a eSATA enclosure with up to 4 disks. I currently use only two disks, each connected to a eSATA PC Express card, giving me (in theory) 3 Gbps speed to 1 TB of storage from my notebook. My enclosure uses individual cables for each SATA disk. -- Geir A. Myrestrand -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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lala wrote:
only 1 drive per connector, no jumpers.
Note that multilane/port multipliers allow multiple drives to be connected to one serial ATA port. This is commonly used with external SATA enclosures.
Personally I use a eSATA enclosure with up to 4 disks. I currently use only two disks, each connected to a eSATA PC Express card, giving me (in theory) 3 Gbps speed to 1 TB of storage from my notebook. My enclosure uses individual cables for each SATA disk.
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On Friday 15 December 2006 10:08, jdd wrote:
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a friend of mine have two western digital drives and the second is not always seen by openSUSE 1.2, I try to fix the problem :-()
As the other responder pointed out, SATA is strictly one-device-per-port scheme. If your friend has two drives connected, then they're connected and there's no issue about configuring the drives or jumpers or any such old-fashioned silliness (SCSI notwithstanding...). So if only one drive is seen by Linux, then possible reasons are: 1) One SATA port is broken. 2) One drive is broken. 3) There are disparate SATA interfaces on the mainboard and only one is supported or recognized or properly activated. 4) There could be a BIOS configuration issue preventing one SATA port from operating.
thanks jdd
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Randall R Schulz a écrit :
On Friday 15 December 2006 10:08, jdd wrote:
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a friend of mine have two western digital drives and the second is not always seen by openSUSE 1.2, I try to fix the problem :-()
As the other responder pointed out, SATA is strictly one-device-per-port scheme. If your friend has two drives connected, then they're connected and there's no issue about configuring the drives or jumpers or any such old-fashioned silliness (SCSI notwithstanding...).
So if only one drive is seen by Linux, then possible reasons are:
1) One SATA port is broken. 2) One drive is broken. 3) There are disparate SATA interfaces on the mainboard and only one is supported or recognized or properly activated. 4) There could be a BIOS configuration issue preventing one SATA port from operating.
well... thanks for the answer. but this mean it's not possible to add disks in the computer this is really limitating :-( my friend problem is pretty harsh to solve. he is a newbie (don't even want to open the box to look at). He have two sata drives (one year old hardware) and a dvd writer (ide) he have windows on the /dev/sda drive the /dev/sdb had an unbuntu working (and may be also an old suse, I'm unsure), the problem come with the 10.2: when booting the dvd, openSUSE don't see the second (linux) drive. he could boot with the mini cd (net install), see the drive and switch to the dvd, and install, but the install goes wrong somewhere and at the reboot gives only a console login he is unable to use. no more unbunto neither, so GRUB was installed. the cd and dvd are OK (verified) and now I try to make him disconnect one of the two drives one at a turn to test, but this scares him :-( drives are western digital WDC-WD1600PD07T (I find this model on google on a comercial site, but not this very model on WD web site) do you know of any specific 10.2 problem in such circomstance? french readers, the original thread: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-fr/2006-12/msg00021.html thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 15 December 2006 10:22, jdd wrote:
the /dev/sdb had an unbuntu working (and may be also an old suse, I'm unsure), the problem come with the 10.2:
when booting the dvd, openSUSE don't see the second (linux) drive. he could boot with the mini cd (net install),
So you are saying that both drives are operational in Windows? I was going to suggest a peek at the bios, because some bios (particularly Dell) come with settings to turn on and off the various ports individually. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
John Andersen a écrit :
On Friday 15 December 2006 10:22, jdd wrote:
the /dev/sdb had an unbuntu working (and may be also an old suse, I'm unsure), the problem come with the 10.2:
when booting the dvd, openSUSE don't see the second (linux) drive. he could boot with the mini cd (net install),
So you are saying that both drives are operational in Windows?
probably not, win dows don't see Linux drives - I already asked the guy if he could see the drive in the admin tools, but don't have answer yet
I was going to suggest a peek at the bios, because some bios (particularly Dell) come with settings to turn on and off the various ports individually.
the drive was installed with unbuntu, so if it failed it's recently... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/12/15 10:44 (GMT-0800) Randall R Schulz apparently typed:
On Friday 15 December 2006 10:08, jdd wrote:
a friend of mine have two western digital drives and the second is not always seen by openSUSE 1.2, I try to fix the problem :-()
As the other responder pointed out, SATA is strictly one-device-per-port scheme. If your friend has two drives connected, then they're connected and there's no issue about configuring the drives or jumpers or any such old-fashioned silliness (SCSI notwithstanding...).
So if only one drive is seen by Linux, then possible reasons are:
1) One SATA port is broken. 2) One drive is broken. 3) There are disparate SATA interfaces on the mainboard and only one is supported or recognized or properly activated. 4) There could be a BIOS configuration issue preventing one SATA port from operating.
Some BIOS have a compatibility mode for supporting both the PATA and SATA ports that requires only a subset of the entire provision of SATA ports be used. 5) Cabling defect. Both cables supplied with my last motherboard provided a very loose fit compared to others. I replaced them immediately. -- "Let your conversation be always full of grace." Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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