It also disables grub boot sectors when it rewrites partition tables. Charly Baker On Thursday September 29 2005 9:22 am, Shriramana Sharma wrote:

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I use Partition Magic. It handles all Windows partition types and Linux EXT2, EXT3, and Swap.

You use SUSE (which defaults to Reiser) and find PM sufficient? Don't you have any Reiser partitions? Isn't it better than ext3? (Uh oh, that sounds like a flame-spark...)

I was thinking of PM, but rejected it since I saw no Reiser support...

On 9/29/05, jdd sur free wrote:

much better use rescue disk or knoppix (or even suse install).

QtParted which came with Knoppix 4.01 DVD is horrible. And to think I download 3 GB! I donno about 4.02, maybe they fixed it, but even the ampersands that are used within the GUI designer to mark the following character as an accelerator were rendered as just ampersands. The program did ^^nothing^^ to help my hard disk. Gonna try 4.02 CD and if that doesn't works, I'm donating my Knoppix discs to somebody... This is going OT, but the background image itself doesn't lend itself pleasantly to the eyes, nor the default font. I wish I had the savoir to compile a Knoppix touch-up myself. I wish there were a SUSE 10 Live CD. Hey, I think I'll actually download the old SUSE Live DVD - anybody can give me feedback on how good the interface and everything was? SUSE's interface is usually great!

On Thursday, September 29, 2005 @ 5:23 AM, Shriramana Sharma wrote:

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I use Partition Magic. It handles all Windows partition types and Linux EXT2, EXT3, and Swap.

You use SUSE (which defaults to Reiser) and find PM sufficient? Don't you have any Reiser partitions? Isn't it better than ext3? (Uh oh, that sounds like a flame-spark...)

I was thinking of PM, but rejected it since I saw no Reiser support...

I switched to EXT3 some time ago. In my reading of the "File Systems for Linux" in the Administration Guide, it sounded like the best file system for me. It was only coincidental that it is also handled by Partition Magic, but that was a nice bonus. Maybe it's really not the best file system for me, I don't know, but I've had good experience with it so far, so I have no need to change it. Besides, I like the fact that you can use PM with it. Greg Wallace

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Anybody here can recommend a good Linux-savvy partition manager to run on Windows (XP)? (Not necessarily free, but nothing running into 100+ dollars.)

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I can google for the data, but I want recommendations based on experience, which googling won't give me.

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Been using this several years: http://www.dfsee.com/

Doesn't seem to support any Linux filesystems (yet).

Exactly what lead you to make that statement? -- "Cast your cares on the Lord and He will sustain you." Psalm 55:22 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/partitioningindex.html

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Been using this several years: http://www.dfsee.com/

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Exactly what lead you to make that statement?

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I see no such language on http://www.dfsee.com/ If it's on some other URL, please be specific and tell me where.

DFSee is the SWISS-ARMY-KNIFE for disk and filesystem problems. It has FDISK-like displays, cloning, imaging, analysis and recovery tools with powerfull FIX commands and UNDELETE for HPFS and NTFS.

DFSee supports partition-tables (FDISK, LVM), (V)FAT, FAT-32, HPFS-structures, some NTFS and JFS stuff and it might support different file-systems like EXT2 and REISER in the future. <<<<<<-----------

Is this site feeding me a different page?

The product includes a 32-bit DOS, a Windows-NT/2000/XP an OS2/eCS version and a native Linux version

4 different main executables, cross platform, runs on every OS I ever use. That consistency is exactly right for me. -- "Cast your cares on the Lord and He will sustain you." Psalm 55:22 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/partitioningindex.html

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I see no such language on http://www.dfsee.com/ If it's on some other URL, please be specific and tell me where.

Try the "Buy DFSee on this cute 8-cm bootable CDROM!" on the page you gave. You will be taken to:

http://www.mensys.net/dfsee/

Which you gonna believe, the program author's site, or some etailer's antique? -- "Cast your cares on the Lord and He will sustain you." Psalm 55:22 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/partitioningindex.html

On Thursday, 29-September-2005 10:25, Felix Miata wrote:

I see no such language on http://www.dfsee.com/ If it's on some other URL, please be specific and tell me where.

I see this: DFSee is a generic disk, partition and filesystem utility for maintenance and data-recovery. It supports partition tables (FDISK, LVM), FAT, FAT32, HPFS, NTFS, and partly JFS, EXT2/3 or REISER filesystems. Found on this page: http://www.dfsee.com/dfsee.htm This means that it doesn't completely support JFS, ext2, ext3, or ReiserFS. If this is incorrect, the author needs to update his/her Web page.

On Thursday, 29-September-2005 11:32, Felix Miata wrote:

Because it is a "Swiss Army Knife" tool, to say "incomplete" is an oversimplification.

Wrong. The Web site CLEARLY states "It supports partition tables (FDISK, LVM), FAT, FAT32, HPFS, NTFS, and partly JFS, EXT2/3 or REISER filesystems." "Partly" means "incomplete."

I suggest that if you need to know precisely what particular support for particular type(s) is lacking, that you subscribe to the support mailing list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dfsee-support/ and ask, or ask the author directly using the instructions on the web site, and maybe recommend a support status table somewhere on the site.

I could care less what the product supports. I do not use it and have no intention of so doing. I am responding to your lame response to a previous poster, who clearly pointed out what the e-commerce site for the product claimed it could do. It is the software author's responsibility to ensure that the product description at the e-commerce site he/she uses is current. The author obviously doesn't do that, since the e-commerce description doesn't agree with the author's own Web site. Not very smart of the author. It is also the author's responsibility to ensure that his/her own Web site's description of the product is current. You imply that the software does more than the description says it does; if so, the author is again not very smart. You (apparently) like the product. Ducky for you. The original poster (wisely) did a little checking, and found that the product descriptions say that the software DOES NOT fully support some Linux partitions. It is the author's responsibility to rectify his/her mistakes in product marketing. Stop berating posters for discovering that the software author doesn't properly market the product. And yes, keeping product descriptions current is definitely a part of marketing.

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On 9/30/05, Felix Miata wrote:

Note that "partly" above does not apply to partition tables. DFSee has filesystem functions available for the first listed that are incomplete or unavailable for the last.

Well I donno. I just tried using DFSee on Win XP SP2 to recover a lost FAT32 partition and it crashed on me with an illegal operation. And it made my ReiserFS partition disappear. :(

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Note that "partly" above does not apply to partition tables. DFSee has filesystem functions available for the first listed that are incomplete or unavailable for the last.

Well I donno. I just tried using DFSee on Win XP SP2 to recover a lost FAT32 partition and it crashed on me with an illegal operation. And it made my ReiserFS partition disappear. :(

I still think wanting windows to do such thing is wantiong windows to delete your partitions. I'm perfectly pleased with fdisk and mkfs, available on any linux cd even partition magic is said to destroy some partition sheme jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr

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Note that "partly" above does not apply to partition tables. DFSee has filesystem functions available for the first listed that are incomplete or unavailable for the last.

Well I donno. I just tried using DFSee on Win XP SP2 to recover a lost FAT32 partition and it crashed on me with an illegal operation. And it made my ReiserFS partition disappear. :(

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If you're going to do it in Linux, can you not use YaST Partitioner? I've looked at it but never actually tried it out, though I was planning to the next time I needed to do partitioning on a hard-drive.

Greg Wallace

I realise that the original posting asked about a partitioner that ran under Windows. However, it seems to have migrated to those that will run under the superior OS :-) So, how about cfdisk as in Vector Linux? I've just downloaded it to run an old, old PC that would not take SuSE but will run Vector very happily. cfdisk seems to support a hundred and one different file systems. It might be worth taking a look... -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

and I always fear to go a step to far and lauch an unwanted install :-)

I seem to remember doing an install where I told it to update an existing system (at the same version). What it did was to replace __all__ the packages that the previous install (at the same version) had already put there. I wish an install (even if unwanted) would SKIP installing a package if the package already there was the same (or newer) version. [I'm assuming those who WANTED a replace could have done "remove" or "format".] mikus

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I seem to remember doing an install where I told it to update an existing system (at the same version). What it did was to replace __all__ the packages that the previous install (at the same version) had already put there.

I wish an install (even if unwanted) would SKIP installing a package if the package already there was the same (or newer) version. [I'm assuming those who WANTED a replace could have done "remove" or "format".]

If the new OS version is compiled with a different version of glibc (and very often this is the case), then replacing installed packages is essential. The version number on the package is not an issue, how software is compiled and linked is critical.

The situation that happened to me was that I used the CDs to install (I forget what, probably 9.2). But I was dissatisfied with the install. [I don't remember the details any more, but the install terminated before completing (perhaps while trying to define the network).] In any case, I did the install again (*without* re-formatting the partitions) FROM EXACTLY THE SAME CDs. I was forced to endure re-installing 1000+ packages (and putting the various CDs in the drive again), all of which took time + effort that I begrudged. I would have been much happier if the second install had skipped re-installing the packages that were there already. [And I thought the OP would have less to fear if an unwanted install were to *avoid* over-writing an existing system.] mikus

On 30/09/05, Jim Flanagan wrote:

I like the Acronis products, www.acronis.com

Thier Disk Director Suite (was Partition Manager) works well with Win and Linux. It will boot off CD, or install to Win based hard drive. Their products are linux based.

Jim

If you care to to do a search of some the UK computer magazine websites you may well find the Acronis products as free downloads. Ok, they are obviously not current editions bbut they won't be that old. They are often given away on cover disks so should be in the download sections. I would suggest searches on PC Plus, PC Answers and possibly PC Format. A magazine called Computer Active may have it in a download section also. ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR