[opensuse] KDE3 / KDE4 11.1
Not to fan an old flame I found an interesting problem I installed as KDE3 alone. Was able to select and manipulate screensavers. Then I installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 to see what I thought of KDE4. Screensavers are selectable in KDE4. KDE3, screensavers can no longer be selected/manipulated. The screen for it is there, just no screensavers. Uninstall the entire KDE4 pattern. Obviously can't do any KDE4 stuff and the KDE3 screensavers are still blank but they do start and display random screen savers. I'm thinking this is a symptom of a whole nother problem I've been fighting. kbluetooth does seem is recognize that there is a bluetooth adapter installed. kbluetooth4 does, although it's impossible to pair with either. For grins, I committed heresy... I booted a live kubuntu to assure the hardware was working and was able to pair perfectly. I don't think this is an upstream problem, unless opensuse used bleeding edge stuff to release. Anyway, any thoughts on how to resolve this? Bruce -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bruce Ferrell<bferrell@baywinds.org> wrote:
Not to fan an old flame I found an interesting problem I installed as KDE3 alone. Was able to select and manipulate screensavers. Then I installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 to see what I thought of KDE4. For grins, I committed heresy... I booted a live kubuntu to assure the hardware was working and was able to pair perfectly. I don't think this is an upstream problem, unless opensuse used bleeding edge stuff to release. Anyway, any thoughts on how to resolve this?
I found KDE3 on 11.1 to be less stable than 11.0, so I reverted back to 11.0 and recommend 11.0 for KDE3. However, that's been my experience. Others seem to have no problems with 11.1/KDE3. I'm still reserving judgement on KDE4. I haven't had time to play with any of the milstones, except on a friend's laptop. KDE4 seemed to be more stable and usable. I think he had Milestone 3 installed. Personally, once I get an install the way I want it, I'm usually not in a hurry to upgrade. I used 9.2 on a machine till 10.2 came out, and then dual booted it(in back, I believe it's still sitting that way - will need to fire it up. took it out of use about 2 years ago). That's just me. If you need a newer kernel for hardware, then 11.1 may be better. All my hardware works fine with 11.0, so I'll stick with it and see what 11.2 has to offer. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Larry Stotler wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bruce Ferrell<bferrell@baywinds.org> wrote:
Not to fan an old flame I found an interesting problem I installed as KDE3 alone. Was able to select and manipulate screensavers. Then I installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 to see what I thought of KDE4. For grins, I committed heresy... I booted a live kubuntu to assure the hardware was working and was able to pair perfectly. I don't think this is an upstream problem, unless opensuse used bleeding edge stuff to release. Anyway, any thoughts on how to resolve this?
I found KDE3 on 11.1 to be less stable than 11.0, so I reverted back to 11.0 and recommend 11.0 for KDE3. However, that's been my experience. Others seem to have no problems with 11.1/KDE3.
I'm still reserving judgement on KDE4. I haven't had time to play with any of the milstones, except on a friend's laptop. KDE4 seemed to be more stable and usable. I think he had Milestone 3 installed.
Personally, once I get an install the way I want it, I'm usually not in a hurry to upgrade. I used 9.2 on a machine till 10.2 came out, and then dual booted it(in back, I believe it's still sitting that way - will need to fire it up. took it out of use about 2 years ago).
That's just me. If you need a newer kernel for hardware, then 11.1 may be better. All my hardware works fine with 11.0, so I'll stick with it and see what 11.2 has to offer.
I'm running kde3 and kde4.3 on factory and I very rarely visit kde3 anymore except if a problem springs up. I actually miss kde4 when it's broken. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dave Plater wrote:
Larry Stotler wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bruce Ferrell<bferrell@baywinds.org> wrote:
Not to fan an old flame I found an interesting problem I installed as KDE3 alone. Was able to select and manipulate screensavers. Then I installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 to see what I thought of KDE4. For grins, I committed heresy... I booted a live kubuntu to assure the hardware was working and was able to pair perfectly. I don't think this is an upstream problem, unless opensuse used bleeding edge stuff to release. Anyway, any thoughts on how to resolve this?
I found KDE3 on 11.1 to be less stable than 11.0, so I reverted back to 11.0 and recommend 11.0 for KDE3. However, that's been my experience. Others seem to have no problems with 11.1/KDE3.
I'm still reserving judgement on KDE4. I haven't had time to play with any of the milstones, except on a friend's laptop. KDE4 seemed to be more stable and usable. I think he had Milestone 3 installed.
Personally, once I get an install the way I want it, I'm usually not in a hurry to upgrade. I used 9.2 on a machine till 10.2 came out, and then dual booted it(in back, I believe it's still sitting that way - will need to fire it up. took it out of use about 2 years ago).
That's just me. If you need a newer kernel for hardware, then 11.1 may be better. All my hardware works fine with 11.0, so I'll stick with it and see what 11.2 has to offer.
I'm running kde3 and kde4.3 on factory and I very rarely visit kde3 anymore except if a problem springs up. I actually miss kde4 when it's broken. Regards Dave P
Well... for giggles and grins, I uninstalled kde3, found I had applications I need from it, put it back in and now I can't get sound in either side! Help! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bruce Ferrell wrote:
Dave Plater wrote:
Larry Stotler wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bruce Ferrell<bferrell@baywinds.org> wrote:
Not to fan an old flame I found an interesting problem I installed as KDE3 alone. Was able to select and manipulate screensavers. Then I installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 to see what I thought of KDE4. For grins, I committed heresy... I booted a live kubuntu to assure the hardware was working and was able to pair perfectly. I don't think this is an upstream problem, unless opensuse used bleeding edge stuff to release. Anyway, any thoughts on how to resolve this?
I found KDE3 on 11.1 to be less stable than 11.0, so I reverted back to 11.0 and recommend 11.0 for KDE3. However, that's been my experience. Others seem to have no problems with 11.1/KDE3.
I'm still reserving judgement on KDE4. I haven't had time to play with any of the milstones, except on a friend's laptop. KDE4 seemed to be more stable and usable. I think he had Milestone 3 installed.
Personally, once I get an install the way I want it, I'm usually not in a hurry to upgrade. I used 9.2 on a machine till 10.2 came out, and then dual booted it(in back, I believe it's still sitting that way - will need to fire it up. took it out of use about 2 years ago).
That's just me. If you need a newer kernel for hardware, then 11.1 may be better. All my hardware works fine with 11.0, so I'll stick with it and see what 11.2 has to offer.
I'm running kde3 and kde4.3 on factory and I very rarely visit kde3 anymore except if a problem springs up. I actually miss kde4 when it's broken. Regards Dave P
Well... for giggles and grins, I uninstalled kde3, found I had applications I need from it, put it back in and now I can't get sound in either side!
Help!
Try starting kmix and checking it's values. You might have ended up with kdemultimedia3-mixer, kmix is the kde4.3 one. I used to use the kde3 one up until 4.3. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 August 2009 10:01:44 Dave Plater wrote:
Bruce Ferrell wrote:
Dave Plater wrote:
Larry Stotler wrote:
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Bruce Ferrell<bferrell@baywinds.org> wrote:
Well... for giggles and grins, I uninstalled kde3, found I had applications I need from it, put it back in and now I can't get sound in either side!
Help!
Try starting kmix and checking it's values. You might have ended up with kdemultimedia3-mixer, kmix is the kde4.3 one. I used to use the kde3 one up until 4.3. Regards Dave P
And check that your master volume hasn't defaulted to 'mute'. Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.1, Kernel 2.6.27.25-0.1-default, KDE 4.2.4 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 4GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9200GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bruce Ferrell wrote:
Not to fan an old flame I found an interesting problem
I installed as KDE3 alone. Was able to select and manipulate screensavers. Then I installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 to see what I thought of KDE4.
Screensavers are selectable in KDE4. KDE3, screensavers can no longer be selected/manipulated. The screen for it is there, just no screensavers. Uninstall the entire KDE4 pattern. Obviously can't do any KDE4 stuff and the KDE3 screensavers are still blank but they do start and display random screen savers.
I'm thinking this is a symptom of a whole nother problem I've been fighting.
kbluetooth does seem is recognize that there is a bluetooth adapter installed. kbluetooth4 does, although it's impossible to pair with either.
For grins, I committed heresy... I booted a live kubuntu to assure the hardware was working and was able to pair perfectly. I don't think this is an upstream problem, unless opensuse used bleeding edge stuff to release.
Anyway, any thoughts on how to resolve this?
Bruce
The version of kbluetooth4 released with opensuse 11.1 was pretty broken. The bug report on it was open for quite sometime after the release, but it's mostly working now thanks to a series of updates. I'd suggest grabbing everything you can from the update repo - that should get you a semi decent kbluetooth4. It's still missing the ability to browse a filesystem but you can use gnome bluetooth for that. It's been a while since I tested, but iirc, having both kbluetooth3 and kbluetooth4 installed will guarantee that neither will work. It seems that those having stability/random issues with kde3 > kde4 chose kde3 during installation. I can't help wondering if the setup with that installation is suboptimal for kde4. I have kde3 and 4 installed and both work without a hitch, but then kde4 was installed first. Just a thought. Nkoli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 31 July 2009 09:00:44 pm Bruce Ferrell wrote:
Not to fan an old flame I found an interesting problem
I installed as KDE3 alone. Was able to select and manipulate screensavers. Then I installed KDE4 alongside KDE3 to see what I thought of KDE4.
Screensavers are selectable in KDE4. KDE3, screensavers can no longer be selected/manipulated. The screen for it is there, just no screensavers. Uninstall the entire KDE4 pattern. Obviously can't do any KDE4 stuff and the KDE3 screensavers are still blank but they do start and display random screen savers.
I'm thinking this is a symptom of a whole nother problem I've been fighting.
kbluetooth does seem is recognize that there is a bluetooth adapter installed. kbluetooth4 does, although it's impossible to pair with either.
For grins, I committed heresy... I booted a live kubuntu to assure the hardware was working and was able to pair perfectly. I don't think this is an upstream problem, unless opensuse used bleeding edge stuff to release.
Anyway, any thoughts on how to resolve this?
Bruce
I can't solve your problem, but I can confirm strange behavior with screensavers under kde4. I have kde3 and kde4.3 rc3 from factory installed side by side. Screensavers in kde3 are still OK, on kde4 the openGL savers either run with missing parts or just lock the box. But, in kde3 they are still there on 11.0. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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