[opensuse] Systemd reports network is up,, but it is ifact down.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 See:
Yet there is no ping:
I need gpm to copy that text in text mode to a file in another terminal, in order to post it later. [...] Problem solved.
All that in text mode. If I start a graphical session without network, many applications set to start in session saved state fail and delay session start. As it is, it takes 5 entire minutes fro grub to working text prompt - I have a video to prove it. :-/ - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlG1HUkACgkQIvFNjefEBxpy3QCfUsG4yPovxOQWkDvLJ3ZiMWU7 6E4An078Brlts1KHhgUB3vX85SgTHERV =dnAU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 09/06/13 20:26, Carlos E. R. escribió:
See, subject wrong, systemd has no capability to know anything about the network, it does not know if it is up or down or went to lunch, it does not manage the network in anyway shape or form. It only recieves status codes from the network scripts or networkmanager process.
ppp0 Jun 10 01:03:47 Telcontar.valinor network[994]: ppp0 Startmode is 'manual' Jun 10 01:03:47 Telcontar.valinor
Are you sure that "manual" is the state you want in ppp0 ?
The script that manages the network, returned (code=exited,
status=0/SUCCESS)
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On 2013-06-10 02:33, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Well, I'm not supposed to call "rcnetwork restart" myself, assuming that it is available. I issue systemd commands, and get responses from systemd. And it is systemd who is waiting on boot for several minutes...
I don't use it. The only connected interface is eth0.
Where is that script? Telcontar:~ # locate network.service Telcontar:~ # I can not find the service file to read it and find out... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 09/06/13 20:52, Carlos E. R. escribió:
network.service does not exists, it is an alias to either the old style /etc/init.d/network script or to NetworkManager.service if networkmanager is in use. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-06-10 02:56, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
NM? According to yast, I'm using ifup. According to XFCE, I /was/ using Network manager. I deleted the two entries in the Network Manager applet (which required root password), and that killed the network. I then restarted the service and got network back. Finally, I disabled NM from starting on the session list off applications to start. That was yesterday, I have rebooted a few times since. ifup has now both entries for fixed IP (no dhcp) for IPv4 and 6. Previously there was some delay because there was an IPv6 gateway defined, but no IP, thus no route to the GW. I solved that sometime today. And a service restart works instantly. This is from the last boot:
Why is NM starting? :-O
<3.6> 2013-06-10 01:51:30 Telcontar network 943 - - eth1 device: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168 <3.6> 2013-06-10 01:51:30 Telcontar network 943 - - eth1 ifplugd is running
<3.6> 2013-06-10 01:51:31 Telcontar network 943 - - eth1 no cable connected
Who enabled it!? :-/ I absolutely deny having enabled it myself. Never on my life on this machine!
ping fails... Telcontar:~ # rcnetwork restart redirecting to "systemctl restart network.service" Telcontar:~ # Sigh... :-(( Well, We'll see on next boot... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 09/06/13 21:19, Carlos E. R. escribió:
NM?
According to yast, I'm using ifup.
Yast is well... pretty "special" :-P.. what does this command says systemctl show -p Names network.service
Why is NM starting? :-O
Ask YAST why. systemd does not have magical powers to choose between old if-up and NM.. I also do object having two different incompatible ways to setup the network but oh well.. the NM command line utilities probably need love to be really suitable for replacing if-up.. ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-10 05:52, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Names=network.service But notice I disabled network manager. My boot is proceeding happily now, I tested it today.
Yes, I know, yast network handling is specially buggy this release, see release notes. But systemd was reporting that the network service had succeeded (status=0/SUCCESS), when it did not. Or it did, but was killed later and did not notice it. I'm not blaming systemd, it is just as bad as systemv >:-P - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlG3FaUACgkQIvFNjefEBxo1GACfS8PxAx+aqb0cFr92rVD4BQma xtoAoM7eqClCMYwN5l+b+e7Fc/+hVfMO =RFbF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, I know, yast network handling is specially buggy this release, see release notes.
Tell me about it. I'm writing my own network handling scripts. I'm getting tired of typing in config commands with 'ip' to bring up interfaces. All the 'if'-X scripts claim things are handled by something else which isn't handling them. I may be close to having a booting system again, but keeping fingers crossed. It's alike 'whack-a-mole'... knock down one problem and another pops up.. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-06-10 02:26, Carlos E. R. wrote: Reposting to avoid wrap (enigmail fault): See:
Yet there is no ping:
I need gpm to copy that text in text mode to a file in another terminal, in order to post it later. [...] Problem solved.
All that in text mode. If I start a graphical session without network, many applications set to start in session saved state fail and delay session start. As it is, it takes 5 entire minutes fro grub to working text prompt - I have a video to prove it. :-/ -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 09/06/13 20:26, Carlos E. R. escribió:
See, subject wrong, systemd has no capability to know anything about the network, it does not know if it is up or down or went to lunch, it does not manage the network in anyway shape or form. It only recieves status codes from the network scripts or networkmanager process.
ppp0 Jun 10 01:03:47 Telcontar.valinor network[994]: ppp0 Startmode is 'manual' Jun 10 01:03:47 Telcontar.valinor
Are you sure that "manual" is the state you want in ppp0 ?
The script that manages the network, returned (code=exited,
status=0/SUCCESS)
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-06-10 02:33, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Well, I'm not supposed to call "rcnetwork restart" myself, assuming that it is available. I issue systemd commands, and get responses from systemd. And it is systemd who is waiting on boot for several minutes...
I don't use it. The only connected interface is eth0.
Where is that script? Telcontar:~ # locate network.service Telcontar:~ # I can not find the service file to read it and find out... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 09/06/13 20:52, Carlos E. R. escribió:
network.service does not exists, it is an alias to either the old style /etc/init.d/network script or to NetworkManager.service if networkmanager is in use. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-06-10 02:56, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
NM? According to yast, I'm using ifup. According to XFCE, I /was/ using Network manager. I deleted the two entries in the Network Manager applet (which required root password), and that killed the network. I then restarted the service and got network back. Finally, I disabled NM from starting on the session list off applications to start. That was yesterday, I have rebooted a few times since. ifup has now both entries for fixed IP (no dhcp) for IPv4 and 6. Previously there was some delay because there was an IPv6 gateway defined, but no IP, thus no route to the GW. I solved that sometime today. And a service restart works instantly. This is from the last boot:
Why is NM starting? :-O
<3.6> 2013-06-10 01:51:30 Telcontar network 943 - - eth1 device: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168 <3.6> 2013-06-10 01:51:30 Telcontar network 943 - - eth1 ifplugd is running
<3.6> 2013-06-10 01:51:31 Telcontar network 943 - - eth1 no cable connected
Who enabled it!? :-/ I absolutely deny having enabled it myself. Never on my life on this machine!
ping fails... Telcontar:~ # rcnetwork restart redirecting to "systemctl restart network.service" Telcontar:~ # Sigh... :-(( Well, We'll see on next boot... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 09/06/13 21:19, Carlos E. R. escribió:
NM?
According to yast, I'm using ifup.
Yast is well... pretty "special" :-P.. what does this command says systemctl show -p Names network.service
Why is NM starting? :-O
Ask YAST why. systemd does not have magical powers to choose between old if-up and NM.. I also do object having two different incompatible ways to setup the network but oh well.. the NM command line utilities probably need love to be really suitable for replacing if-up.. ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-10 05:52, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Names=network.service But notice I disabled network manager. My boot is proceeding happily now, I tested it today.
Yes, I know, yast network handling is specially buggy this release, see release notes. But systemd was reporting that the network service had succeeded (status=0/SUCCESS), when it did not. Or it did, but was killed later and did not notice it. I'm not blaming systemd, it is just as bad as systemv >:-P - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlG3FaUACgkQIvFNjefEBxo1GACfS8PxAx+aqb0cFr92rVD4BQma xtoAoM7eqClCMYwN5l+b+e7Fc/+hVfMO =RFbF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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