[opensuse] 13.1: AMD A10-7850K APU with Radeon(TM) R7 Graphics working for anyone?
13.1 is selected over 13.2 due, among other reasons, to anticipated longer support via Evergreen. Its owner is a longstanding openSUSE user who is nearly blind, and highly appreciates minimal upgrade frequency. Installation attempts, with or without nomodeset on cmdline, halted early, following: ... Initializing virtual console Found a Linux console terminal on /dev/console (160 columns x 64 lines). I found https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/495206-openSUSE13-1-x86_64-cannot... that seems to have been on point but without resolution. I without success looked for something on point in Bugzilla and relnotes. So I put a Radeon PCIe card in it and did a "Minimal X" installation. That installation succeeded to get a working X. Then I removed the PCIe card and tried again. That produced segfault initializing graphical.target. I did zypper up except for (locked) kernel, then installed kernel-desktop-3.12.32 from home:/mkubecek:/evergreen-13.1/openSUSE_13.1/. Attempting to boot 3.12.32 stops at "[ 1.7yada] fb: switching to radeondrmfb from VESA VGA". Updates didn't improve 3.11.4. This is a new motherboard/CPU/RAM/HD. I tried booting the old HD's 12.2. 3.4.11 boots, and KDE4 runs in FBDEV. 11.3's 2.6.34 boots, and KDE3 runs in FBDEV. Last, I installed 13.2 minimal X, and it runs IceWM using radeon driver. I perused: https://en.opensuse.org/AMD https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Radeon https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:AMD_fglrx But I spotted no indication whether this video configuration requires a proprietary driver to work in 13.1. Any suggestions how to make 13.1 work acceptably? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
On 12/07/2014 04:19 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
13.1 is selected over 13.2 due, among other reasons, to anticipated longer support via Evergreen. Its owner is a longstanding openSUSE user who is nearly blind, and highly appreciates minimal upgrade frequency.
Installation attempts, with or without nomodeset on cmdline, halted early, following: ... Initializing virtual console Found a Linux console terminal on /dev/console (160 columns x 64 lines).
I found https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/495206-openSUSE13-1-x86_64-cannot... that seems to have been on point but without resolution. I without success looked for something on point in Bugzilla and relnotes.
So I put a Radeon PCIe card in it and did a "Minimal X" installation. That installation succeeded to get a working X. Then I removed the PCIe card and tried again. That produced segfault initializing graphical.target.
I did zypper up except for (locked) kernel, then installed kernel-desktop-3.12.32 from home:/mkubecek:/evergreen-13.1/openSUSE_13.1/. Attempting to boot 3.12.32 stops at "[ 1.7yada] fb: switching to radeondrmfb from VESA VGA". Updates didn't improve 3.11.4.
This is a new motherboard/CPU/RAM/HD. I tried booting the old HD's 12.2. 3.4.11 boots, and KDE4 runs in FBDEV. 11.3's 2.6.34 boots, and KDE3 runs in FBDEV. Last, I installed 13.2 minimal X, and it runs IceWM using radeon driver.
I perused: https://en.opensuse.org/AMD https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Radeon https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:AMD_fglrx But I spotted no indication whether this video configuration requires a proprietary driver to work in 13.1.
Any suggestions how to make 13.1 work acceptably?
Felix, Take a look at: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887629 There may be some really really bad news. (look at the part regarding kernels >= 3.15) In a nutshell, there are some radeon drivers where support for the card is either totally broken, or was intentionally removed. It pisses me off. There seems to be no concern for backwards compatibility for boxes 4-5 years old. If the kernel being installed is greater than 3.15 and the graphics card is a radeon card, there may be no way to get a graphics display -- PERIOD. I tried a kotd which was 3.17 and hit this issue on 13.1. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
David C. Rankin composed on 2014-12-12 14:03 (UTC-0600):
Take a look at: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887629 There may
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=887629 Yikes, more proof new and evolved do not correlate very well with better.
be some really really bad news. (look at the part regarding kernels >= 3.15) In a nutshell, there are some radeon drivers where support for the card is either totally broken, or was intentionally removed. It pisses me off. There seems to be no concern for backwards compatibility for boxes 4-5 years old.
IMO it's more likely that the ability to test this older stuff during kernel and driver evolution by those writing those patches is the real problem, not a shortage of concern. Historically, laptops aren't as long lasting as desktop hardware, and aren't friendly and condusive to further use once upgrading has taken place. Those devs must be more heavily dependent on users testing prereleases more than a week or two before new releases appear.
If the kernel being installed is greater than 3.15 and the graphics card is a radeon card, there may be no way to get a graphics display -- PERIOD. I tried a kotd which was 3.17 and hit this issue on 13.1.
I agree support for recent AMD video hardware may leave plenty to be desired. I didn't buy this thing, and unlikely would have before it was at least 18 months old, if ever. Here's another fresh indication of lurking trouble: http://marc.info/?l=fedora-test-list&m=141839937222858&w=2 I acquired a workaround at least for the preliminary Evergreen kernel 3.12 via the opensuse-kernel mailing list: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kernel/2014-12/msg00010.html The problem now is putting it into the hands of a mere mortal user who is likely to do updates and lose X video because of having to go outside the package management system to make it work. Another is going beyond 13.1 while keeping KDE3 doesn't seem to be efficacious for any visually handicapped user: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793565 Maybe we'll get lucky and see that fixed before 13.1 Evergreen support ends. Or maybe YaST2 in TDE in 13.2 will be OK, which I've not been coerced into trying yet. The pearsoncomputing repo here is usually very slow, and I've never found a meta package to install a minimalist TDE, one that does not bloat installation and updating with a long list of packages that would never be used. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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