Hi, all -- I've just run through a few installs and thought I'd send an update, pretty much for general news but also so that someone can tell me where I'm being an idiot. I downloaded the NET image and threw it on a USB stick and ran through the entire install configuration. Although it happily pulled down data to get set up, it couldn't figure out networking (on-board Ethernet) and failed to connect to repositories and died. Worse, there was no way to get back into the install process after manually bringing up the interface; I was stuck at the 80s-style screen (which I love; don't get me wrong :-) and unable to try again. So, fine, I also downloaded the DVD image and went through the whole setup again. This *appeared* to configure (including without limitation setting a static IP address) properly, but during the actual install failed to connect to a couple of repositories and so wasn't quite complete. Urgh. But I can ping! *grrr* I rebooted and found networking to be unavailable. I had to go into YaST, change over to wicked, and tell it to believe the static IP info it had there before I could get going. Odd. Networking appeared fine after that, and I was able to zypper grab a few packages, but did not come up on the next boot. This box again did the resume search on System\x20Reserved during boot; I really need to file that bug report. [This is an identical machine from the same refurb folks, so it's not surprising to see that it would be duplicated.] It takes less time to edit the boot line than to wait through it, so I've done that a few times now. By the way, according to /dev/disk/by-label, my sda1 swap volume *does* have that label, so my guess is that "format"ting for swap doesn't actually do so. Still, though, why it searches there or even specifies resume= is a question for the bug report ... On this last boot of the night, as noted above, I still have no networking, and poking at it this time does not appear effective. Hmmm. It's bedtime for me, and I'll hope to get back to this the next time I'm where it is. I'll certainly send updates -- and, now that I know I'm likely to see difficulties, take better notes. Maybe this is enlightening for others, though. Have a great night! :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
David T-G composed on 2021-06-27 23:12 (UTC-0400):
On this last boot of the night, as noted above, I still have no networking, and poking at it this time does not appear effective. Hmmm.
Try doing as I do nearly always: Configure *static* networking via the installer's kernel command line according to: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
Felix, et al -- ...and then Felix Miata said... % % David T-G composed on 2021-06-27 23:12 (UTC-0400): % % > On this last boot of the night, as noted above, I still have no % > networking, and poking at it this time does not appear effective. Hmmm. % % Try doing as I do nearly always: Configure *static* networking via the installer's % kernel command line according to: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc Dang! I thought I was going to fall in love, but apparently I'm doing it wrong, because it didn't catch. I hit 'e' to edit and added ifcfg-eth0=192.168.42.248/24,192.168.42.1 hostname=jpo and then booted. Perhaps that should have been part of a boot line. I forced the IP up in a virt console before letting the installer take off, though, so it found remote repos, and then I switched to wicked to config and wrote the pieces I wanted, so at least this time it worked. Oh, and when poking at grub I noticed the boot options and got rid of the resume= piece. But that tells me that YaST is finding it during configuration and probing rather than it being a problem later. Well, OK. I'm now installing 539 updates. Unfortunately, I still can't hit "restart when this is all finished" but instead have to wait with popups on the screen or manually reboot later. There's a gap there ... I need to learn about command-line updating anyway; I'm rarely near the closet to look at the GUI. Onward! :-) % -- % Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, % based on faith, not based on science. % % Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! % % Felix Miata I'd noticed the last name long ago, but I only just noticed the email address today. Fun :-) HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
David T-G composed on 2021-06-28 07:25 (UTC-0400):
Dang! I thought I was going to fall in love, but apparently I'm doing it wrong, because it didn't catch. I hit 'e' to edit and added
ifcfg-eth0=192.168.42.248/24,192.168.42.1 hostname=jpo
That doesn't conform to the example: ifcfg=<interface_spec>=[try,]IP_LIST,GATEWAY_LIST,NAMESERVER_LIST,DOMAINSEARCH_LIST,OPTION1=value1,... If you only have one NIC, do it /starting/ this way: ifcfg=*="192.168.42.248/24,192.168.42.1 Don't leave off anything non-optional, e.g.: ifcfg=*="192.168.X.Y/24,192.168.X.Z,192.168.X.W 1.1.1.1,my.lan isp.net" I'm in the habit of using "" to avoid whitespace failures in NAMESERVER_LIST & DOMAINSEARCH_LIST. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 2021-06-28 12:45:18 Felix Miata wrote:
|David T-G composed on 2021-06-28 07:25 (UTC-0400): |> Dang! I thought I was going to fall in love, but apparently I'm doing |> it wrong, because it didn't catch. I hit 'e' to edit and added |> |> ifcfg-eth0=192.168.42.248/24,192.168.42.1 |> hostname=jpo | |That doesn't conform to the example: | |ifcfg=<interface_spec>=[try,]IP_LIST,GATEWAY_LIST,NAMESERVER_LIST,DOMAINSE |ARCH_LIST,OPTION1=value1,... | |If you only have one NIC, do it /starting/ this way: | | ifcfg=*="192.168.42.248/24,192.168.42.1 | |Don't leave off anything non-optional, e.g.: | | ifcfg=*="192.168.X.Y/24,192.168.X.Z,192.168.X.W 1.1.1.1,my.lan isp.net" | |I'm in the habit of using "" to avoid whitespace failures in | NAMESERVER_LIST & DOMAINSEARCH_LIST.
Should that not be 'ifcfg-*="'? Leslie -- Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64
J Leslie Turriff composed on 2021-06-28 15:10 (UTC-0500):
Felix Miata wrote:
| David T-G composed on 2021-06-28 07:25 (UTC-0400):
|> Dang! I thought I was going to fall in love, but apparently I'm doing |> it wrong, because it didn't catch. I hit 'e' to edit and added
|> ifcfg-eth0=192.168.42.248/24,192.168.42.1 |> hostname=jpo
| That doesn't conform to the example:
| ifcfg=<interface_spec>=[try,]IP_LIST,GATEWAY_LIST,NAMESERVER_LIST,DOMAINSE | ARCH_LIST,OPTION1=value1,... | | If you only have one NIC, do it /starting/ this way:
| ifcfg=*="192.168.42.248/24,192.168.42.1
| Don't leave off anything non-optional, e.g.:
| ifcfg=*="192.168.X.Y/24,192.168.X.Z,192.168.X.W 1.1.1.1,my.lan isp.net"
| I'm in the habit of using "" to avoid whitespace failures in | NAMESERVER_LIST & DOMAINSEARCH_LIST.
Should that not be 'ifcfg-*="'?
My previous example was from well down the https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc page. The following example is from near the top of the page. ifcfg=eth*=10.0.1.1/24,10.0.1.254 So, no! -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 2021-06-28 15:28:31 Felix Miata wrote:
|> Should that not be 'ifcfg-*="'? | | | My previous example was from well down the | https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc page. The following example is from | near the top of the page. | | ifcfg=eth*=10.0.1.1/24,10.0.1.254 | |So, no!
Hm. Okay, it just looked strange to me. Every day is a learning experience. Leslie -- Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.3 x86_64
Felix, et al -- ...and then Felix Miata said... % % J Leslie Turriff composed on 2021-06-28 15:10 (UTC-0500): % % > Felix Miata wrote: % % >>| David T-G composed on 2021-06-28 07:25 (UTC-0400): % % >>|> Dang! I thought I was going to fall in love, but apparently I'm doing % >>|> it wrong, because it didn't catch. I hit 'e' to edit and added % % >>|> ifcfg-eth0=192.168.42.248/24,192.168.42.1 % >>|> hostname=jpo % ... % > Should that not be 'ifcfg-*="'? % % My previous example was from well down the https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Linuxrc % page. The following example is from near the top of the page. % % ifcfg=eth*=10.0.1.1/24,10.0.1.254 1) Here's the example I was using, so while you're right that I didn't confirm, it's because ... 2) Oh! I missed that, because who would think that "=" belongs there?!? :-) % % So, no! Thanks again :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 23:12:21 -0400 David T-G <davidtg-robot@justpickone.org> wrote:
Hi, all --
I've just run through a few installs and thought I'd send an update, pretty much for general news but also so that someone can tell me where I'm being an idiot.
Do you really mean a 15.2 install, or are you discussing 15.3?
I downloaded the NET image and threw it on a USB stick and ran through the entire install configuration. Although it happily pulled down data to get set up, it couldn't figure out networking (on-board Ethernet) and failed to connect to repositories and died. Worse, there was no way to get back into the install process after manually bringing up the interface; I was stuck at the 80s-style screen (which I love; don't get me wrong :-) and unable to try again.
So, fine, I also downloaded the DVD image and went through the whole setup again. This *appeared* to configure (including without limitation setting a static IP address) properly, but during the actual install failed to connect to a couple of repositories and so wasn't quite complete. Urgh. But I can ping! *grrr*
I rebooted and found networking to be unavailable. I had to go into YaST, change over to wicked, and tell it to believe the static IP info it had there before I could get going. Odd. Networking appeared fine after that, and I was able to zypper grab a few packages, but did not come up on the next boot.
This box again did the resume search on System\x20Reserved during boot; I really need to file that bug report. [This is an identical machine from the same refurb folks, so it's not surprising to see that it would be duplicated.] It takes less time to edit the boot line than to wait through it, so I've done that a few times now. By the way, according to /dev/disk/by-label, my sda1 swap volume *does* have that label, so my guess is that "format"ting for swap doesn't actually do so. Still, though, why it searches there or even specifies resume= is a question for the bug report ...
On this last boot of the night, as noted above, I still have no networking, and poking at it this time does not appear effective. Hmmm.
It's bedtime for me, and I'll hope to get back to this the next time I'm where it is. I'll certainly send updates -- and, now that I know I'm likely to see difficulties, take better notes. Maybe this is enlightening for others, though.
Have a great night!
:-D
Dave, et al -- ...and then Dave Howorth said... % % On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 23:12:21 -0400 % David T-G <davidtg-robot@justpickone.org> wrote: % % > I've just run through a few installs and thought I'd send an update, % > pretty much for general news but also so that someone can tell me % > where I'm being an idiot. % % Do you really mean a 15.2 install, or are you discussing 15.3? [snip] Yes, one fife decimal two. Given how "shiny, new, and improved" 15.3 is, after my very quick and unscientific poll last night I decided to stick with 15.2 for now. Thanks for checking, though! HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
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