[opensuse] A "warning" about Thunderbird (3.0) in 11.2
11.2 (to be released tomorrow) contains Thunderbird 3.o(b4). There are some changes to the last version used in 11.1. One of them is that when you want to read a message and *right-click* on it the first option which you can select it to open it in a new window. If you click on this option, then you can exit this message after reading it by simply clicking on the X in the top right-hand button on the page (just like you would have done in 11.1 and prior). However, if you *left double-click* on the selected message to read then things are kinda different: the exit from that message is NOT the X in the top right-hand button - *this will close Thunderbird!* - but the 'exit' will appear just above the header of the message you have selected to read - much the same way that in Firefox a TAB is shown when you open a new URL (kinda, you'll see what I mean). (The same thing happens if you select the *second* option when you *right-click* on the message.) Even knowing all this, I still keep closing TB when closing a message I just read :-( . Habits are hard to break. Oh, there is still a bug in TB 3.0 which is that it does not automatically start Firefox when you left-click on an URL mentioned in a TB message. You need to Copy the URL and then paste it in Firefox's URL window :-( . Annoying but not fatal. BC -- I work to live not live to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/10/2009 11:19 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Oh, there is still a bug in TB 3.0 which is that it does not automatically start Firefox when you left-click on an URL mentioned in a TB message. You need to Copy the URL and then paste it in Firefox's URL window :-( . Annoying but not fatal.
It's not a bug in Thunderbird. Thunderbird tries to start whatever http handler is defined in gconf. Given you are talking about the KDE desktop the handler for http is epiphany in gconf and as that is not installed just nothing happens. There is a bug about it but some disagreement who is responsible for that. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Oh, there is still a bug in TB 3.0 which is that it does not automatically start Firefox when you left-click on an URL mentioned in a TB message. You need to Copy the URL and then paste it in Firefox's URL window :-( . Annoying but not fatal.
It's not a bug in Thunderbird. Thunderbird tries to start whatever http handler is defined in gconf. Given you are talking about the KDE desktop the handler for http is epiphany in gconf and as that is not installed just nothing happens. There is a bug about it but some disagreement who is responsible for that.
Grrr, that's annoying :-( I was wondering why my test machine using T-Bird was behaving like this, but hadn't taken the time to investigate. So... if you're not using Gnome and using KDE, E16, or any other desktop... how are the users supposed to: 1. Know this? 2. Change it? :-( rhetorical questions C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/10/2009 11:42 AM, Clayton wrote:
Oh, there is still a bug in TB 3.0 which is that it does not automatically start Firefox when you left-click on an URL mentioned in a TB message. You need to Copy the URL and then paste it in Firefox's URL window :-( . Annoying but not fatal.
It's not a bug in Thunderbird. Thunderbird tries to start whatever http handler is defined in gconf. Given you are talking about the KDE desktop the handler for http is epiphany in gconf and as that is not installed just nothing happens. There is a bug about it but some disagreement who is responsible for that.
Grrr, that's annoying :-( I was wondering why my test machine using T-Bird was behaving like this, but hadn't taken the time to investigate.
So... if you're not using Gnome and using KDE, E16, or any other desktop... how are the users supposed to: 1. Know this? 2. Change it? :-( rhetorical questions
C.
It's annoying, thats true. Anyway, yesterday I found the following "How-To" to set the defauls to firefox (each two lines belong into one!!!!!): gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/enabled --type Boolean true gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/enabled --type Boolean true gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/enabled --type Boolean true Best, Oliver. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/11/09 21:52, olit@gmx.at wrote:
On 11/10/2009 11:42 AM, Clayton wrote:
Oh, there is still a bug in TB 3.0 which is that it does not automatically start Firefox when you left-click on an URL mentioned in a TB message. You need to Copy the URL and then paste it in Firefox's URL window :-( . Annoying but not fatal.
It's not a bug in Thunderbird. Thunderbird tries to start whatever http handler is defined in gconf. Given you are talking about the KDE desktop the handler for http is epiphany in gconf and as that is not installed just nothing happens. There is a bug about it but some disagreement who is responsible for that.
Grrr, that's annoying :-( I was wondering why my test machine using T-Bird was behaving like this, but hadn't taken the time to investigate.
So... if you're not using Gnome and using KDE, E16, or any other desktop... how are the users supposed to: 1. Know this? 2. Change it? :-( rhetorical questions
C.
It's annoying, thats true. Anyway, yesterday I found the following "How-To" to set the defauls to firefox (each two lines belong into one!!!!!):
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/enabled --type Boolean true
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/enabled --type Boolean true
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/enabled --type Boolean true
Best, Oliver.
Groan, and so where is this "gconftool-2"-thingie supposed to be found? How about providing the reference to the "How-To" which you found yesterday? BC -- I work to live not live to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/10/2009 12:10 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/11/09 21:52, olit@gmx.at wrote:
On 11/10/2009 11:42 AM, Clayton wrote:
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/enabled --type Boolean true
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/enabled --type Boolean true
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/enabled --type Boolean true
Best, Oliver.
Groan, and so where is this "gconftool-2"-thingie supposed to be found?
In the gconf2 package. You can install it using sudo zypper install gconf2 or in the GUI using yast.
How about providing the reference to the "How-To" which you found yesterday?
After taking 10 minutes to look it up again, here it is, please: http://twoday.tuwien.ac.at/pub/stories/326158/comment Just to let you know: The ftp-handler in my example is different! Oliver. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/11/09 23:08, olit@gmx.at wrote:
On 11/10/2009 12:10 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/11/09 21:52, olit@gmx.at wrote:
On 11/10/2009 11:42 AM, Clayton wrote:
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/enabled --type Boolean true
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/enabled --type Boolean true
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/enabled --type Boolean true
Best, Oliver.
Groan, and so where is this "gconftool-2"-thingie supposed to be found?
In the gconf2 package. You can install it using
sudo zypper install gconf2
or in the GUI using yast.
How about providing the reference to the "How-To" which you found yesterday?
After taking 10 minutes to look it up again, here it is, please:
http://twoday.tuwien.ac.at/pub/stories/326158/comment
Just to let you know: The ftp-handler in my example is different!
Oliver.
Wonderful! I, and no doubt many others, thank you for this. I shall go and follow this up. Again, many thanks :-) . BC -- I work to live not live to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/11/09 23:08, olit@gmx.at wrote:
On 11/10/2009 12:10 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 10/11/09 21:52, olit@gmx.at wrote:
On 11/10/2009 11:42 AM, Clayton wrote:
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/enabled --type Boolean true
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/https/enabled --type Boolean true
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/command '/usr/bin/firefox %s' --type String
gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/enabled --type Boolean true
Best, Oliver.
Groan, and so where is this "gconftool-2"-thingie supposed to be found?
In the gconf2 package. You can install it using
sudo zypper install gconf2
or in the GUI using yast.
How about providing the reference to the "How-To" which you found yesterday?
After taking 10 minutes to look it up again, here it is, please:
http://twoday.tuwien.ac.at/pub/stories/326158/comment
Just to let you know: The ftp-handler in my example is different!
Oliver.
Well, I did all this but nothing is working, so I guess I must have done something incorrectly. But never mind, I am now used to Copying the Link and pasting it into Firefox :-) . Thanks again for the info. BC -- I work to live not live to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/11/09 20:39, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
On 11/10/2009 11:19 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Oh, there is still a bug in TB 3.0 which is that it does not automatically start Firefox when you left-click on an URL mentioned in a TB message. You need to Copy the URL and then paste it in Firefox's URL window :-( . Annoying but not fatal.
It's not a bug in Thunderbird. Thunderbird tries to start whatever http handler is defined in gconf. Given you are talking about the KDE desktop the handler for http is epiphany in gconf and as that is not installed just nothing happens. There is a bug about it but some disagreement who is responsible for that.
Wolfgang
Ahemm, "there is a bug about it but some disagreement who is.......". So, a bug is a bug, right? :-) But I know what you mean.... BC -- I work to live not live to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/10/2009 2:19 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
11.2 (to be released tomorrow) contains Thunderbird 3.o(b4). There are some changes to the last version used in 11.1.
One of them is that when you want to read a message and *right-click* on it the first option which you can select it to open it in a new window. If you click on this option, then you can exit this message after reading it by simply clicking on the X in the top right-hand button on the page (just like you would have done in 11.1 and prior).
However, if you *left double-click* on the selected message to read then things are kinda different: the exit from that message is NOT the X in the top right-hand button - *this will close Thunderbird!* - but the 'exit' will appear just above the header of the message you have selected to read - much the same way that in Firefox a TAB is shown when you open a new URL (kinda, you'll see what I mean). (The same thing happens if you select the *second* option when you *right-click* on the message.)
Even knowing all this, I still keep closing TB when closing a message I just read :-( . Habits are hard to break.
There is a setting for this. Tools / Options / Reading & Display / Open messages in Select the middle radio Then your double click action will the the same as your right click action. Single click still displays in the lower (preview) pane. I've never understood the desire to have each message pop up a new window when the preview pane performs just as well. So, long, story short, Nothing to see here folks, its just a setting problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 11/11/09 12:23, John Andersen wrote:
On 11/10/2009 2:19 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
11.2 (to be released tomorrow) contains Thunderbird 3.o(b4). There are some changes to the last version used in 11.1.
One of them is that when you want to read a message and *right-click* on it the first option which you can select it to open it in a new window. If you click on this option, then you can exit this message after reading it by simply clicking on the X in the top right-hand button on the page (just like you would have done in 11.1 and prior).
However, if you *left double-click* on the selected message to read then things are kinda different: the exit from that message is NOT the X in the top right-hand button - *this will close Thunderbird!* - but the 'exit' will appear just above the header of the message you have selected to read - much the same way that in Firefox a TAB is shown when you open a new URL (kinda, you'll see what I mean). (The same thing happens if you select the *second* option when you *right-click* on the message.)
Even knowing all this, I still keep closing TB when closing a message I just read :-( . Habits are hard to break.
There is a setting for this.
Tools / Options / Reading & Display / Open messages in Select the middle radio
Then your double click action will the the same as your right click action.
Single click still displays in the lower (preview) pane.
I've never understood the desire to have each message pop up a new window when the preview pane performs just as well.
So, long, story short, Nothing to see here folks, its just a setting problem.
Thank you, John, the "bug" is fixed :-) . (Pays to look at all the settings first.... :-) .) BC -- I work to live not live to work. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (5)
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Basil Chupin
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Clayton
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John Andersen
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olit@gmx.at
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Wolfgang Rosenauer