On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 00:48 +0200, houghi wrote:

On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 12:36:53AM +0200, Fredrik Sjöstedt wrote:

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Hi,

After downloading the latest version of SuSE (I've been using it since 6.4), I was for the 1:st time missing some of the programs that I usually use.

1) Postgresql server 2) Zope 3) ncftp 4) Scribus <snip> What do the rest of you think of this matter?

I think you should either buy the boxed version that has those programs or install them via the website.

There are one or two or three or four or ... more programs that are not on the CD, but are on the DVD and therefore on the mirrors: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/16076.html

houghi

Hi list, Houghi man, your spamming the list with irrelevant rants, you dont have to reply to each f***ing thread man, honestly few guys i know and are frequent users of freenode suse/opensuse channels have already complained about massive amount of irrelevant messages on this mailing list made by you or others. I plead you like a human being, stop replying to each phreaking thread man ! Regards, Daniel -- Daniel Radetic - Quid quid habes hodie, cras te fortasse relinquet aut modo dum lonqueris, dessinit esse tuum. GPG Key fingerprint = 27C1 D27D C64C 95C9 DC89 9F25 AA81 0C3F 00B6 3126

houghi wrote:

Sorry, I do not thing it is irrelevant an rant. The programs he asked for are on the mirrors. I think that is very relevant. The programs are available.

houghi

houghi, I agree with you. Keep up the good work. You answer with good info. Rich

Houghi man, your spamming the list with irrelevant rants, you dont have to reply to each f***ing thread man, honestly few guys i know and are frequent users of freenode suse/opensuse channels have already complained about massive amount of irrelevant messages on this mailing list made by you or others. I plead you like a human being, stop replying to each phreaking thread man !

Regards, Daniel

There is no argument that Houghi does post a lot, but if you are going to make claims of irrelevant rants, you make yourself look stupid when you post this in reply to a message that is neither a rant or irrelevant. At this point I would like more Houghis on the list than Daniel Radetics. Now we could open that discussion again on web forums, as I believe they are the best place to deal with user support issues, as I am afraid, that is what this list will be mainly full of shortly. Pflodo.

On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 you said:

Houghi man, your spamming the list with irrelevant rants, you dont have [snip rude remarks]

Ever heard of "free speech"? You know, that pesky little reason why people you don't like just won't shut up, just because you want them to? Have a look at procmailrc(5) if you want to stick fingers in your ears and sing "lalalala", while the rest of us just read houghi's posts and take the contents for what it's worth: voluntary and free advice/help from an experienced SUSE and Linux guy. Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org Voorhout ICQ: 277217131 ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Voor GNUpg/pgp zie headers.

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On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 00:48 +0200, houghi wrote: ... Hi list,

Hi Daniel

Houghi man, your spamming the list with irrelevant rants, you dont have to reply to each f***ing thread man, honestly few guys i know and are frequent users of freenode suse/opensuse channels have already complained about massive amount of irrelevant messages on this mailing list made by you or others. I plead you like a human being, stop replying to each phreaking thread man !

I'm quite often in #opensuse and I've never seen anyone complain about houghi's mails on the list. There's indeed some noise in here but that's not coming from him. AFAICT, at least. Really, Daniel, your mail is displaced. Indeed houghi is replying to almost every single mail on this list but don't blame him for putting much effort and time to help other people. He's also very committed on the opensuse.org wiki. Motivated people who put spend part of their free time into openSUSE is what we need. That's how we grow a community. houghi, I'm sure people appreciate your effort, keep it up. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDSXH5r3NMWliFcXcRAlFYAJ9RgUu7iRAmOXvUjpVKRPkkRKBPjwCdF5+S g4LagwMsEdvnciP5HA3Quc4= =hbDN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Hello, On 10/9/05, SU <suse_user@interia.pl> wrote:

Halo,

I have just installed SUSE Linux 10 OSS version but unfortunately i can't install NVidia drivers just because none of the mirrors which are visible in the Online Update section doesn't show them.

I have a howto for this[1] :-)

The second problem is that i can't find AppArmor (which i really wanted to try out) in spite of adding all needed repositories to YaST.

Any ideas? :-)

Try the Eval version... [1]http://www.opensuse.org/NVIDIA Yours faithfully, -- Damian Mihai Liviu Phone: +40741226993 Yahoo: liviudm_cisco URL: http://dazzle.xhost.ro

On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 11:34:19PM +0200, SU wrote:

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[1]http://www.opensuse.org/NVIDIA

Yes, i know this way but i don't like it because after each kernel upgrade i would have to recompile the nvidia kernel module. I really want to install NVidia drivers via YaST :-)

Due to the fact that the drivers are closed source, that is not really possible, I think.

Hmm, but afaik "eval" version and oss version are binary identical and if i use oss version i can download non-free packages from additional repos. Am i wrong?

My thoughts as well. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 11:34:19PM +0200, SU wrote:

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The second problem is that i can't find AppArmor (which i really wanted to try out) in spite of adding all needed repositories to YaST.

Any ideas? :-)

AppArmor isn't currently part of OpenSuSE. Tony

Hi, On Monday 21 November 2005 07:49, Aschwin Marsman wrote:

Is it correct that AppArmor isn't currently part of openSUSE? AppArmor isn't part of the openSUSE project.

If so, the release notes are incorrect, if not how can I get it? Yes, the releases notes are incorrect, but you can get AppArmor with the retail package or with the 'Eval' CD/DVD.

I went to a LinuxWorld (Utrecht, the Netherlands) seminar from Arjan van de Ven (Red Hat) that discussed the topics above and SUSE was mentioned, so I'm interested in what SUSE provides. What SUSE product? SUSE Linux 10.0 Professional? If yes, you can find more info about it at: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/

Cheers, -- Damian Mihai Liviu Mobile: +40 741 226993; Fax: +1 347-632-4117 Phone : +1 360-526-6441; +1 347-632-4117; +44 0870-3403339 URL: http://liviudm.blogspot.com

Christian Boltz wrote:

Hello,

Am Montag, 21. November 2005 06:49 schrieb Aschwin Marsman: [...]

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Is it correct that AppArmor isn't currently part of openSUSE?

If so, the release notes are incorrect,

They just don't differ between retail and OSS version.

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if not how can I get it?

Try install-source-extra on (a mirror of) ftp.suse.com

Regards,

Christian Boltz

AppArmor is not available for OSS edition. ---------- SU ------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoryzacja i piekne kobiety: Kalendarz Pirelli 2006!

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http://link.interia.pl/f18d5

Aschwin Marsman <aschwin@marsman.org> writes:

Then it would be nice if you can see in the release notes that it's not applicable for the openSUSE version. No I spent some time trying to find out where to find it whereas the person who writes the release notes knows (I hope) that it's not applicable.

I guess it works as follows: Release Notes are covering SL 10.0 and there are no specialized SL OSS 10.0 Release Notes. I'm not that sure whether it is worth filing a feature request for SL OSS RNs. Maybe, a wiki page would be sufficient. -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH Key fingerprint = B2A3 AF2F CFC8 40B1 67EA 475A 5903 A21B 06EB 882E

Aschwin Marsman <aschwin@marsman.org> writes:

I'm not asking for a separate release note, but an indication if a package is only available for non openSUSE.

I don't know whether SL customers would appreciate some such solution.

Why create a new page for that? You will have redundant data, that's asking for inconsistency. If you want separate release notes I would create one "master release note" and create specialized versions with e.g. a shell script.

We'd do this using an XML profiling mechanism. The technology is already "in place" and we use it for differentiating SLES vs. SL or hardware architecuture. That's why you could file are feature request ;) -- Karl Eichwalder R&D / Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH Key fingerprint = B2A3 AF2F CFC8 40B1 67EA 475A 5903 A21B 06EB 882E

On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 09:39:37PM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote: <snip> To all of you who showed support for me, thanks. I must say that the best was when the OP posted that it was helpfull, t have shown the person the errors of his ways. For those who dislike my posts, just do the following (Darn, it must be hard taking advice from me if you dislike me. LOL) See that procmail is installed and running. Then make a file ~/.procmailrc with the following content: #BIN bucket. Test above first :0: * 1^0 ^From:.*@houghi\.org /dev/null Now if you want some more people blocked, just add the following above /dev/null and below the previous entry, like: * 1^0 ^From:.spammer@example\.com * 1^0 ^X-Mailinglist: opensuse OK, that last one was just an example that you can use any header. Again thanks to all who have been supportive. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html