[opensuse] Need monitor recommendation
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc). Thanks, Greg Wallace -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/12/14 13:02 (GMT-0600) Greg Wallace apparently typed:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
In case you're not aware, flat panel displays all have a "native" resolution, which when not used results in quality that is less than that at native, often significantly less. Usually, a resolution higher than native is impossible. As a consequence, be sure of the resolution you wish to use before shopping for any flat panel display. If you wish to be able to freely switch among various resolutions, such as for web page or app development, you'll want to stick to a CRT. Perfectly good CRT and easily repaired displays can be had used for cheap or free from such places as FreeCycle and Craig's List due to corporate "upgrade" policies discarding old equipment according to age rather than malfunction. I have 3 nice 19" Dells (made by Sony) and 2 nice 17" Sonys that I paid 0 for. Several were malfunctioning when I got them, but easily fixed using free information from the internet, and in two cases requiring parts costing less than $1. FWIW, this is what I bought 3 months ago, though at a much better price due than shown now. Rebate and lower price and free shipping resulted in a total cost to me of about $204. -- "Let your conversation be always full of grace." Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/12/14 @ 1:30 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2006/12/14 13:02 (GMT-0600) Greg Wallace apparently typed:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
In case you're not aware, flat panel displays all have a "native" resolution, which when not used results in quality that is less than that at native, often significantly less. Usually, a resolution higher than native is impossible. As a consequence, be sure of the resolution you wish to use before shopping for any flat panel display.
If you wish to be able to freely switch among various resolutions, such as for web page or app development, you'll want to stick to a CRT.
Perfectly good CRT and easily repaired displays can be had used for cheap or free from such places as FreeCycle and Craig's List due to corporate "upgrade" policies discarding old equipment according to age rather than malfunction. I have 3 nice 19" Dells (made by Sony) and 2 nice 17" Sonys that I paid 0 for. Several were malfunctioning when I got them, but easily fixed using free information from the internet, and in two cases requiring parts costing less than $1.
FWIW, this is what I bought 3 months ago, though at a much better price due than shown now. Rebate and lower price and free shipping resulted in a total cost to me of about $204. -- "Let your conversation be always full of grace." Colossians 4:6 NIV
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Felix: Interesting about the resolution issue with flat screen monitors. At this point, I think I need to provide some more detail about why I'm looking for a new monitor (I have a CRT monitor now). My Windows machine recently played out on me, so I bought a new Dell machine to replace it. I always use 2 accounts on Windows machines, Administrator and my own personal limited account. I set this up and, right off of the bat, had a problem. If I had both accounts logged on and switched between them, then when I first went into an account, the monitor would completely power down for about 10 or 15 seconds. Then, it would power back up and power back down again for a fraction of a second. After that, it would work fine. That same exact pattern repeated every time I switched accounts. I reported this issue to Dell and they said, no problem, we'll just send you another machine. They did, and the issue was still there with the new machine. I worked with a Dell technician over the phone today and he had me turn off the video card. When I did, the issue went away. He also had me try turning the video card back on and changing the resolution to the lowest possible setting. The issue again went away, except for the brief flashing of the monitor when I switched accounts. At that point, he said my problem was with my old CRT monitor. He said they are obsolete and, if I got a flat panel monitor, the issue would clear up. The video card on the machine is an ATI 256 MB Radeon X1300 Pro. I'm now wondering if a second and maybe better option would be to just replace the video card. Do you know whether those particular cards are known to have issues? Thanks, Greg Wallace -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/12/14 14:24 (GMT-0600) Greg Wallace apparently typed:
On 2006/12/14 @ 1:30 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
FWIW, this is what I bought 3 months ago, though at a much better price due than shown now. Rebate and lower price and free shipping resulted in a total cost to me of about $204.
Forgot to paste the link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116008
The video card on the machine is an ATI 256 MB Radeon X1300 Pro. I'm now wondering if a second and maybe better option would be to just replace the video card. Do you know whether those particular cards are known to have issues?
I think what you're experiencing is the result of interplay between several factors: 1-Some monitors go in and out of sleep mode more quickly than others, often coming out slowly 2-Some desktop environments handle mode switching more efficiently than others 3-Some drivers are more prone to put a monitor in sleep mode, or take longer to reverse the process, when something happens to temporarily disengage the display 4-The corollary to #3 - a switch to another video card might get you a better driver, or a worse driver, or little or no change So, like the doctor says, if it hurts to do a particular thing, don't do that particular thing. Don't mode switch, or at least refrain from it as much as possible, if possible at all. It seems your problem could be that the admin and regular accounts might be using different display resolutions, and thus a switch between them causes a mode switch delay. Does XP have different options for handling user switching? Maybe there's some setting that could be changed to reduce or eliminate the problem. Can the video card from the dead machine be tried in the new? Do you have any other cards around you could try? Old PCI video cards, while generally much slower than AGP, onboard, or PCIe, nevertheless do usually work just fine in fast modern hardware. Does your SUSE box use the same display? If not, test with it. I wouldn't bet money that changing the display or the video card would help. Might. Might not. -- "Let your conversation be always full of grace." Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 December 2006 09:02, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Thanks, Greg Wallace
Viewsonic LCD Jerome -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 December 2006 14:21, Susemail wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 09:02, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Thanks, Greg Wallace
Viewsonic LCD Jerome
I'm with Jerome. My 19" Viewsonic VX910 LCD is rock-solid and fast. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I like my Viewsonic VX922 - 19". On Thursday 14 December 2006 19:06, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 14:21, Susemail wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 09:02, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days
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On Thursday 14 December 2006 12:21, Susemail wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 09:02, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Thanks, Greg Wallace
Viewsonic LCD Jerome
Another vote for ViewSonic. I have a VP201b (1600x1200 LCD) and it is an excellent monitor. It has DVI-A, DVI-D and VGA inputs, and you can sequence between them from the front panel. The display quality, especially when using DVI, is outstanding. I'll never own a CRT again! Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
If you want *really* high-end LCD monitor, then go for "NEC Opticlear 17" " - he uses some special technology that makes it look 5x times more contrast & brightness than all-other models. This super-abilities are not shown in paper-specs -- but only in real-life. It is so bright that it is viewable against direct Sun. Other LCDs pale against it. Be prepared - it costs 3x times as much as other LCD monitors of same size. Here in Israel, I saw it at about 500$+ - but it's worth it! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 12/15/06, Alexey Eremenko
If you want *really* high-end LCD monitor, then go for "NEC Opticlear 17" " - he uses some special technology that makes it look 5x times more contrast & brightness than all-other models. This super-abilities are not shown in paper-specs -- but only in real-life. It is so bright that it is viewable against direct Sun. Other LCDs pale against it.
Be prepared - it costs 3x times as much as other LCD monitors of same size.
Here in Israel, I saw it at about 500$+ - but it's worth it!
I think I found what it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-reflective_screen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 14 December 2006 19:14, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Thursday 14 December 2006 09:02, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
HP vs19e flat LCD, have been very pleased with mine, recognized & works perfectly. 19" is awesome!! coming from using 13-14" crts as well........ Wallyworld, I think I paid around $250. -- This computer is powered by OpenSuse 10.2 7:58pm up 3 days 0:06, 2 users, load average: 0.34, 0.60, 0.64 kernel-2.6.18.2-34-default http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday December 14 2006 2:02 pm, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
LG for VERY bright and VERY sharp images and text!! Fred -- MickySoft, the ultimate corporate parasite. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Thanks, Greg Wallace The LCD monitors (standard size, not the long thin movie size) all should work well. 1280x1024 is the common pitch, and it will work just fine. I have an X2gen which works--it's a 19"--but
On Thursday 14 December 2006 14:02, Greg Wallace wrote: there are lots of very good buys on 17" screens. I haven't used an Acer, but that's a very reliable name in computer hardware. Tiger Software always has some deals on LCD's. Do not go for anything that has a rebate offer. You will probably never get the rebate, for reasons that Tiger is not completely responsible for. It is really nice to have a 15 pound monitor, rather than a 50 pound one! The failure mode: the LCD is lit up by a very expensive fluorescent light. When it fails, you will probably have to buy a new monitor. But when your CRT fails, you would also have to buy a new monitor. Six of one, half dozen of the other. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, December 14, 2006 @ 6:41 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Thanks, Greg Wallace The LCD monitors (standard size, not the long thin movie size) all should work well. 1280x1024 is the common pitch, and it will work just fine. I have an X2gen which works--it's a 19"--but
On Thursday 14 December 2006 14:02, Greg Wallace wrote: there are lots of very good buys on 17" screens. I haven't used an Acer, but that's a very reliable name in computer hardware. Tiger Software always has some deals on LCD's. Do not go for anything that has a rebate offer. You will probably never get the rebate, for reasons that Tiger is not completely responsible for.
It is really nice to have a 15 pound monitor, rather than a 50 pound one! The failure mode: the LCD is lit up by a very expensive fluorescent light. When it fails, you will probably have to buy a new monitor. But when your CRT fails, you would also have to buy a new monitor. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
--doug
How does it look at 1024 X 768? Thanks, Greg Wallace -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 13:02 -0600, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Mag Innovision Excellent CRT used and decent Flat Panel. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 13:02 -0600, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Mag Innovision Excellent CRT used and decent Flat Panel. I would recommend a Viewsonic. I have used their E70 CRT model for many years
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On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 07:45 +0200, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 13:02 -0600, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Mag Innovision Excellent CRT used and decent Flat Panel. I would recommend a Viewsonic. I have used their E70 CRT model for many years
Well Ed McMann did not come to dinner this Christmas So Ill stick to what I have. But for those with money ViewSonic is definitely the way to go. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 23:08, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 07:45 +0200, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote:
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 13:02 -0600, Greg Wallace wrote:
I am in the market for a new monitor (still using old CRT). I'm looking for just a small monitor, say 17 inch. Can someone suggest a brand and type (if there is more than one type like there are with TVs these days -- i. e. plasma, etc, etc).
Mag Innovision Excellent CRT used and decent Flat Panel.
I would recommend a Viewsonic. I have used their E70 CRT model for many years
Well Ed McMann did not come to dinner this Christmas So Ill stick to what I have. But for those with money ViewSonic is definitely the way to go.
NEC makes a decent monitor. I've been using this 17" E750 Multisync for 5 or 6 years. LCD monitors haven't impressed me enough to spend the money they cost. 'cause I'm like you, not rich at all (fixed incomes do that to a person, heh). Check on eBay for monitors, you should be able to find a good deal. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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steve reilly -
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