What I like about Microsoft is that Microsoft is only a tempory phenomenon, a business aberration, a bump-in-the-road. In a few years, people will think back and laugh and say "Microsoft? What was Microsoft?" people will be hard-pressed to even remember what Microsoft was and meant.
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:16:58 -0400 Rich3800@aol.com wrote:
What I like about Microsoft is that Microsoft is only a tempory phenomenon, a business aberration, a bump-in-the-road. In a few years, people will think back and laugh and say "Microsoft? What was Microsoft?" people will be hard-pressed to even remember what Microsoft was and meant.
I have (respectfully) to disagree. Like hoover and biro, it will remain. As a noun: "He's a real microsoft" - arrogant, over-bearing, and a bit (lot) meglomaniacal. As a verb: "She's really microsofted that project" - (expletively) badly fsck-ed, late, but has a good gloss on it, as gloss is all that matters. And as no doubt many other parts of speech, either in addition to vocabulary: "This engine's well and truly microsoftly fsck-ed" or in replacement: "This microsofting microsofter microsofting microsofted" HTH Terence
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 06 April 2004 13:28, Terence McCarthy wrote:
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:16:58 -0400
Rich3800@aol.com wrote:
What I like about Microsoft is that Microsoft is only a tempory phenomenon, a business aberration, a bump-in-the-road. In a few years, people will think back and laugh and say "Microsoft? What was Microsoft?" people will be hard-pressed to even remember what Microsoft was and meant.
I have (respectfully) to disagree. Like hoover and biro, it will remain.
As a noun:
"He's a real microsoft" - arrogant, over-bearing, and a bit (lot) meglomaniacal.
As a verb:
"She's really microsofted that project" - (expletively) badly fsck-ed, late, but has a good gloss on it, as gloss is all that matters.
And as no doubt many other parts of speech, either in addition to vocabulary:
"This engine's well and truly microsoftly fsck-ed"
or in replacement:
"This microsofting microsofter microsofting microsofted"
HTH
Terence
Correct IMHO. M$ will not go away - it will become a case of mind over matter. Most people won't mind because it won't matter - at least as much. IF Linux wasn't doing so well why would Sun and M$ make nice? Perhaps because they are both baffled and threatened by FOSS/Linux. Sun wants Solaris on big iron because it means Big $$$ - it ain't gonna happen... Period. M$ wants to rule the world and could always bully or kill off the competition. Grass roots movements such as FOSS isn't viral - it's foundational - and hence the rub. You can't overtake and control standards by implementing "quasi" standards - as is the case with M$ if no one decides to use the products they are folded into. Kinda blows out the whole lock in angle out. And therefore, end-users and corporates alike won't have to worry about inter-op and functionality - Open standards means everyone can play and the malcontents lose their niche and in M$' case their dominance. Cheers, Curtis. - -- Spammers Beware: Tresspassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Warning: Individuals throwing objects at the crocodiles will be asked to retrieve them! If pro is the opposite of con, then the opposite of progress must be congress! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAczt07CQBg4DqqCwRAsEsAJ9j4sXIMidTPCfpEs/4/HoB69M4vwCg2Jgf 6Ibr8VxIW/WUv9Hulg9Rbt8= =qatO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 7:21 pm, Curtis Rey wrote: [snip]
IF Linux wasn't doing so well why would Sun and M$ make nice? Perhaps because they are both baffled and threatened by FOSS/Linux. Sun wants Solaris on big iron because it means Big $$$ - it ain't gonna happen... Period. M$ wants to rule the world and could always bully or kill off the competition. Grass roots movements such as FOSS isn't viral - it's foundational - and hence the rub. You can't overtake and control standards by implementing "quasi" standards - as is the case with M$ if no one decides to use the products they are folded into. Kinda blows out the whole lock in angle out. And therefore, end-users and corporates alike won't have to worry about inter-op and functionality - Open standards means everyone can play and the malcontents lose their niche and in M$' case their dominance.
All true, HOWEVER, until Linux is AS EASY to install on ANY PC, supporting ALL hardware as it should, and there is a NATIVE Tax prepare application along with a MUCH better Gimp (12 and 16-bit support), etc., Linux WON'T make it to the desktop as we'd like it to - period! Why do major corporations use MickySoft Office? Because OO doesn't have the same fuctionality. YES, OO is great - I use it and promote it, but it DOESN'T have anywhere near the fuctionality of the latest Office. Then there's nonsense stuff like all apps., other than Gimp, can't use ALL paper formats and functions of a number of printers. The Epson Stylus Photo 2200, 5000, and 9600 are examples......NO roll paper support and no boarderless support except in Gimp. Whatever is defined in CUPS MUST be available to all apps. under KDE and Gnome. No one wants Linux to replace MickySoft on the desktop more than I do, but it simply ISN'T going to happen anytime soon because presently there's too much that isn't "right." Fred -- "Steve Ballmer is no more designed for the art of persuasion than the Abrams tank is for delivering meals on wheels."
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 15:16, Rich3800@aol.com wrote:
What I like about Microsoft is that Microsoft is only a tempory phenomenon, a business aberration, a bump-in-the-road. In a few years, people will think back and laugh and say "Microsoft? What was Microsoft?" people will be hard-pressed to even remember what Microsoft was and meant.
While I can appreciate the sentiment, and suspect you were speaking somewhat tongue in cheek, I don't see MS going away anytime soon. However, I do see them losing their dominant status. Those of us who've been around for awhile remember when IBM ruled the roost as firmly as MS has for the past few years. MS will survive, but I truly believe that we're seeing the beginning of the end of their reign.
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 20:16, Rich3800@aol.com wrote:
What I like about Microsoft is that Microsoft is only a tempory phenomenon, a business aberration, a bump-in-the-road. In a few years, people will think back and laugh and say "Microsoft? What was Microsoft?" people will be hard-pressed to even remember what Microsoft was and meant.
I disagree.
Have you seen the released the windows 2000 and NT source code?
Their quality was excelent, except for the hacks they have done because
of 3rd party software and their own software like MS Access and Windows
Media Players.
I saw the source. I'm a programmer for a few years now, and a programmer
is a programmer, whatever OS they are working. Like everything in life,
there are good and bad programmers.
For me that i work with Linux RedHat 9, SuSE Linux 9 Pro, Slackware
Linux 9.1, MacOS 9.2.2, MacOSX 10.3 Server, Windows 2000 Server and
Windows 2003 Server and windows XP Pro as clients, and MacOS 9.2 to 8.5
as clients (all at the same company)!!!, cause of the upgrades and new
services), i know from a professional point of view that all of them
have their weak and strong points, (ALL of them)
I work for a newspaper, and there was always a flame-war cause of
windowz vs mac, then when i entered in the company i brought LINUX!!!
Now we are using a multi-faceted environment with all the capabilities
of the strong points of the OS choosen to do certain tasks.
Sorry, it's only my €0.01 cent to this mailling list.
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Luis Miguel P. Freitas
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