Clayton said the following on 09/10/2009 05:47 PM:

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This is usually accompanied by the same sluggishness with the items on the bottom panel of my KDE4 screen. The command menu pops up some minutes - yes minutes - after I click on it. The delay in the pager makes it useless.

Is Nepomuk/Strigi running? That sounds a lot like the Nepomuk indexer doing it's usual "it's time to index your computer so I'll eat up 110% of your system resources for a random amount of time" thing.

Good point. It wasn't when I ssh'd in after a freeze. However ... I have disabled it in system settings, but sometimes I do see it running! I have chmod'd a-x but it keeps turning back on! There seem to be two different freezes: a) menu and panel and some (but not all) dialogue boxes become sluggish even though the applications, including new starts from the command line or to handle downloads or a click on a file icon in Konqueror and the corresponding new wows are NOT sluggish. b) freeze when the tab between applications using the 'film strip' seems to freeze all of Xorg, mouse and keyboard and prevent ctl-alt-tab to a console Is there a reliable way to get rid of Nepomuk? -- A man thinks that by mouthing hard words he understands hard things. - Herman Melville -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 23:47 +0200, Clayton wrote:

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This is usually accompanied by the same sluggishness with the items on the bottom panel of my KDE4 screen. The command menu pops up some minutes - yes minutes - after I click on it. The delay in the pager makes it useless.

Is Nepomuk/Strigi running? That sounds a lot like the Nepomuk indexer doing it's usual "it's time to index your computer so I'll eat up 110% of your system resources for a random amount of time" thing.

C.

I checked, and Nepomuk is not installed. I found strigi was installed (I thought I got rid of it a long time ago) so I uninstalled it. When I scroll the page up past the fontwork at the top of the page where I have placed them over a photo that covers the front page, the page hangs up and doesn't scroll regularly. Reading top output when I scroll to this point, soffice.bin jumps to 56% of cpu from 0 or 2.3%, and Xorg jumps to 42% from 0.3%. So I can say that a major problem seems to be with the fontwork, not that I know how to fix it. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 07:19 +0200, Clayton wrote:

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When I scroll the page up past the fontwork at the top of the page where I have placed them over a photo that covers the front page, the page hangs up and doesn't scroll regularly. Reading top output when I scroll to this point, soffice.bin jumps to 56% of cpu from 0 or 2.3%, and Xorg jumps to 42% from 0.3%. So I can say that a major problem seems to be with the fontwork, not that I know how to fix it.

On my system, moving Fontwork can hit the CPU hard unless I turn off antialiasing - I've never noticed this since I've never used Fontworks before. There might be a bug open on this... don't know, but it'd be worth a search in the OpenOffice.org website.

C

I spent some time with google trying to find out how to turn off antialiasing, but only came up with complicated bash commands to run in terminal that I wasn't sure would really do the trick. I did find the simple answer when I tried to find a bug report for this problem on the OOo website. It is tools>options>view>uncheck antialiasing. That seems to have done the trick, I will know more when I try to use OO to do the newsletter next month. Thanks for the help! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 11:26 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:

On Friday 11 September 2009, Clayton wrote:

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I checked, and Nepomuk is not installed. I found strigi was installed (I thought I got rid of it a long time ago) so I uninstalled it.

It keeps coming back like an undead zombie. :-(

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When I scroll the page up past the fontwork at the top of the page where I have placed them over a photo that covers the front page, the page hangs up and doesn't scroll regularly. Reading top output when I scroll to this point, soffice.bin jumps to 56% of cpu from 0 or 2.3%, and Xorg jumps to 42% from 0.3%. So I can say that a major problem seems to be with the fontwork, not that I know how to fix it.

On my system, moving Fontwork can hit the CPU hard unless I turn off antialiasing - I've never noticed this since I've never used Fontworks before. There might be a bug open on this... don't know, but it'd be worth a search in the OpenOffice.org website.

Could you please report this at https://bugzilla.novell.com against the product OpenOffice.org?

Hi Petr, I opened a bug on this problem at OpenOffice because I was using a different computer and didn't have this email to reference. I will open the bug at novell as you have requested. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Petr Mladek wrote:

On Friday 18 September 2009, Mark Misulich wrote:

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On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 11:26 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:

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On Friday 11 September 2009, Clayton wrote:

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On my system, moving Fontwork can hit the CPU hard unless I turn off antialiasing - I've never noticed this since I've never used Fontworks before.  There might be a bug open on this... don't know, but it'd be worth a search in the OpenOffice.org website.

Could you please report this at https://bugzilla.novell.com against the product OpenOffice.org?

Hi Petr, I opened a bug on this problem at OpenOffice because I was using a different computer and didn't have this email to reference.  I will open the bug at novell as you have requested.

Do you mean that you reported the bug at http://www.openoffice.org/? What is the issue number?

It might be enough if the bug happens also with the upstream build. I expect that this bug should be common. Thorsten knowns about it, so he would look at it if time permits. It is possible that an upstream developer will be faster, ...

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Hi Petr, Ok, here is what I did. I opened the bug at Openoffice.org, issue number 105065. I opened it up there because I opened it up using my desktop computer at home when I returned from my last business trip. I had the problem originally on my laptop when I was on the road trying to get some work done on the newsletter I write for an organization. I forwarded the newsletter to my desktop from my laptop to see if I had the same problem there. I did, so I opened up the bug from memory at openoffice.org forgetting that you asked me to open it up at novel. The issue of that bug is 105065. The openoffice.org bug was closed a day or two after I opened it. They asked me to download the tarball open office 3.1.1 from open office directly and install it on my computer. In the meantime, I had left on another business trip, so I told them I would do it in a week and a half when I returned home. I think they didn't want to wait, so they tried it out on Ubuntu and didn't have the problem, so they closed the bug. Here is the final report: I checked with 32bit on Suse and 64bit OOo 3.1.1 on ubuntu but I could not detect a problem like the described. Highest OOo cpu peak was 12%. I think it is a problem of the OOo build provided by Novell or something with the XServer. Please use the OOo from our download page. I looked up the original email stored on my laptop computer after I saw that response, and realized that you wanted me to file the bug with Novell, not openoffice. So I did that and sent out the email to let you know. Here is the number for that bug: 540147 Here is the url for that bug: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540147 I hope that this makes things clear now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:14 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:

On Thursday 10 September 2009 11:18:00 am Mark Misulich wrote:

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Hi, I am just writing to ask if anyone has any experience with Open Office Writer.  I am trying to use it for the first time to make up a newsletter, as I usually use WinXp and Word.  I find its performance to be so bad it is just about unusable.  Is this the normal way it operates, or is there something wrong or otherwise necessary to make it operate properly?

Here is what its doing:  When I try to move fontwork around to place on the title page, the computer chugs and the movements become jerky.  I can't accurately place the fontwork.  It is ridiculously slow as well.

Pretty much any other operation, such as saving the file will also do the same, it causes the computer to chug and takes a long time to complete.

My computer is a Dell Dimension 4600 with a P4 2.66 ghz processor, and has 3.6 gb ram.

Thanks

       Your box has more than enough horse power.

       OpenOffice hasn't worked right since version 2.4.1. It has been one screw-up after another. Either indents don't work so all your Word documents are left justified (no matter what you try) or OpenOffice hangs and you lose your work.

       If you are running 11.0, just go download the files from the update repository and reinstall 2.4. I was hoping that 3.1.1 would be better, but I lost 30 minutes of work yesterday on a hang/crash. I think I'll go back to 2.4 until things get better.

-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

If OO 2.4 is really faster than 3.1, I would not mind going back to it for at least a test. Is there a 11.1 repo for OO 2.4? I tried to look in the build service, but it is a major headache because of all the "openoffice" repositories. (75 pages worth). Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Shayon wrote:

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Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:14 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On Thursday 10 September 2009 11:18:00 am Mark Misulich wrote:

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Hi, I am just writing to ask if anyone has any experience with Open Office Writer.  I am trying to use it for the first time to make up a newsletter, as I usually use WinXp and Word.  I find its performance to be so bad it is just about unusable.  Is this the normal way it operates, or is there something wrong or otherwise necessary to make it operate properly?

Here is what its doing:  When I try to move fontwork around to place on the title page, the computer chugs and the movements become jerky.  I can't accurately place the fontwork.  It is ridiculously slow as well.

Pretty much any other operation, such as saving the file will also do the same, it causes the computer to chug and takes a long time to complete.

My computer is a Dell Dimension 4600 with a P4 2.66 ghz processor, and has 3.6 gb ram.

Thanks

       Your box has more than enough horse power.

       OpenOffice hasn't worked right since version 2.4.1. It has been one screw-up after another. Either indents don't work so all your Word documents are left justified (no matter what you try) or OpenOffice hangs and you lose your work.

       If you are running 11.0, just go download the files from the update repository and reinstall 2.4. I was hoping that 3.1.1 would be better, but I lost 30 minutes of work yesterday on a hang/crash. I think I'll go back to 2.4 until things get better.

-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

If OO 2.4 is really faster than 3.1, I would not mind going back to it for at least a test.

Is there a 11.1 repo for OO 2.4?

I tried to look in the build service, but it is a major headache because of all the "openoffice" repositories.  (75 pages worth).

Greg

reply from Shayon(warlock) Well i totally agree with David,just go through the Repo's and updates ....and download the files.but ya,openoffice report problems no doubt,but it can be managed to an extent

Shayon

My question was, where is the repo for OO 2.4 for opensuse 11.1? I just did a search on the build service for openoffice_org-base and I don't see anything that old. http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.1&p=3&q=openoffice_org-base Maybe I need to use a different search? Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 23:14 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote:

On Thursday 10 September 2009 11:18:00 am Mark Misulich wrote:

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Hi, I am just writing to ask if anyone has any experience with Open Office Writer. I am trying to use it for the first time to make up a newsletter, as I usually use WinXp and Word. I find its performance to be so bad it is just about unusable. Is this the normal way it operates, or is there something wrong or otherwise necessary to make it operate properly?

Here is what its doing: When I try to move fontwork around to place on the title page, the computer chugs and the movements become jerky. I can't accurately place the fontwork. It is ridiculously slow as well.

Pretty much any other operation, such as saving the file will also do the same, it causes the computer to chug and takes a long time to complete.

My computer is a Dell Dimension 4600 with a P4 2.66 ghz processor, and has 3.6 gb ram.

Thanks

Your box has more than enough horse power.

OpenOffice hasn't worked right since version 2.4.1. It has been one screw-up after another. Either indents don't work so all your Word documents are left justified (no matter what you try) or OpenOffice hangs and you lose your work.

If you are running 11.0, just go download the files from the update repository and reinstall 2.4. I was hoping that 3.1.1 would be better, but I lost 30 minutes of work yesterday on a hang/crash. I think I'll go back to 2.4 until things get better.

-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

Hi David, I found that the problem could be "fixed" on 3.1.1 Writer by going to tools>options>view>deselect antialiasing. I also have another linux distro installed on this computer, and it has OOo 2.6 installed. That version doesn't use antialiasing so it doesn't have the problem with fontwork that I described for 3.1.1. I did find that the fontwork produced in 3.1.1 doesn't display correctly in 2.6, all the fontwork is displayed too thin. Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org