I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application. All comments welcome. john ------------------------------------ John N. Alegre o Andante Systems o eCommerce Consulting o Custom Web Development <*{{{{}>< ------------------------------------
I don't know how they compare with those apps, but both Mozilla and OpenOffice can compose html pages. John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
All comments welcome. john ------------------------------------ John N. Alegre o Andante Systems o eCommerce Consulting o Custom Web Development <*{{{{}>< ------------------------------------
On Friday 06 August 2004 7:30 am, James Knott wrote:
I don't know how they compare with those apps, but both Mozilla and OpenOffice can compose html pages.
I found those 2 programs have a bit of a problem being able to work with a range of browsers...especially, and I hate to say it, IE. Unless something's been improved over the past several months, I noticed various format problems within a variety of browsers. -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
Tom wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] Home Page equiv for Linux??' on Fri, Aug 06 at 12:11:
On Friday 06 August 2004 7:30 am, James Knott wrote:
I don't know how they compare with those apps, but both Mozilla and OpenOffice can compose html pages.
I found those 2 programs have a bit of a problem being able to work with a range of browsers...especially, and I hate to say it, IE. Unless something's been improved over the past several months, I noticed various format problems within a variety of browsers.
I've used Mozilla's HTML editor some to do things like table layout, etc, and have noticed no such problems. Then again, I usually do stuff by hand, so perhaps I just know what to avoid. Could you elaborate on the types of layout problems you encountered? --Danny
On Friday 06 August 2004 11:22 am, Danny Sauer wrote:
I've used Mozilla's HTML editor some to do things like table layout, etc, and have noticed no such problems. Then again, I usually do stuff by hand, so perhaps I just know what to avoid. Could you elaborate on the types of layout problems you encountered?
--Danny
Its been a while, but I recall shifting tables...like tables within tables. Table spacing issues...which is a bad thing when one splits up images and uses them in different cells within a table. And positioning of images. Font representation with using CSS also. Again...it's been a while, but that's what I kind of recall. -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
Tom wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] Home Page equiv for Linux??' on Fri, Aug 06 at 13:37:
On Friday 06 August 2004 11:22 am, Danny Sauer wrote:
I've used Mozilla's HTML editor some to do things like table layout, etc, and have noticed no such problems. Then again, I usually do stuff by hand, so perhaps I just know what to avoid. Could you elaborate on the types of layout problems you encountered?
--Danny
Its been a while, but I recall shifting tables...like tables within tables. Table spacing issues...which is a bad thing when one splits up images and uses them in different cells within a table. And positioning of images. Font representation with using CSS also.
Again...it's been a while, but that's what I kind of recall.
Ok, so just screwy CSS stuff, generally. The kind of thing that pro web developers run into all the time anyway. ;) I found that Mozilla worked better by unchecking the "use CSS attributes" checkbox in the composer preferences, and never went back. My wife uses it for all of her web development, since it's a decent WYSIWYG editor and it's free, so that may help the OP. Like I said, I don't really use it much, either way. BTW, it's also a good idea to uncheck the "pretty print HTML" option, too - it'll mangle otherwise good code, esp with an image split across table. It's not as good as the latest Dreamweaver, but from the OP's goals, I'd guess that the users aren't gonna be creating super- fancy sites anyway, just some simple markup in a WISYWIG editor. Mozilla would do that well. I've never trusted an office suite to do HTML the way I think it should be done (like, as a flexible medium, not a print layout), so I've nothing useful to contribute re: OOo. --Danny
On Friday 06 August 2004 12:03 pm, Danny Sauer wrote:
I've never trusted an office suite to do HTML the way I think it should be done (like, as a flexible medium, not a print layout), so I've nothing useful to contribute re: OOo.
The worst sites/pages I've seen have been from MS Word or StarOffice or OpenOffice. Yucky! -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
-----Original Message----- From: listhub@libros.andante.mn.org [mailto:listhub@libros.andante.mn.org] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:47 AM To: SuSE SLE Mailing List Subject: [SLE] Home Page equiv for Linux??
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
It might be a little much, but I use the heck out of Dreamweaver MX (not MX 2004 - that thing complains that it MUST run under WinXP - Bah!) alongside an install of Crossover Office 3.0. It works like a charm. I do get the "feel" that Dreamweaver actually runs faster under Linux than it does on the same machine under XP :) Steve
On Friday 06 August 2004 16:47, John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
Bluefish, Quanta? I think Quanta is part of the default SuSE install.
All comments welcome. john ------------------------------------ John N. Alegre o Andante Systems o eCommerce Consulting o Custom Web Development <*{{{{}>< ------------------------------------
-- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: +44 161 834 7961 Fax: +44 161 839 5797 http://www.chethams.org.uk
Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 16:47, John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
Bluefish, Quanta? I think Quanta is part of the default SuSE install.
Those aren't WYSISYG, are they? -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
On Friday 06 August 2004 15:46, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 16:47, John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
Bluefish, Quanta? I think Quanta is part of the default SuSE install.
Those aren't WYSISYG, are they?
No, not as much as I remember them being, as I've just noticed ... sorry. Though I would say they're fairly easy to use.
-- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
-- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: +44 161 834 7961 Fax: +44 161 839 5797 http://www.chethams.org.uk
On Friday 06 August 2004 15:46, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 16:47, John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
Bluefish, Quanta? I think Quanta is part of the default SuSE install.
Those aren't WYSISYG, are they?
It is sort of now. You'll need a recent build of KDE, but they are integrating a Visual editing mode. -- Steve Boddy
On Friday 06 August 2004 22.58, Stephen Boddy wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 15:46, Jim Sabatke wrote:
Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 16:47, John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
Bluefish, Quanta? I think Quanta is part of the default SuSE install.
Those aren't WYSISYG, are they?
It is sort of now. You'll need a recent build of KDE, but they are integrating a Visual editing mode.
-- Steve Boddy
Quanta is wysiwyg. And in my opinion very good at generating fairly clean code. I keep using it in combination with mc's editor, and kwrite. Its very good at handling the crappy code that is spewed out of frontpage and the sort... Check it out, it's on the distributiondisks. -- /Rikard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rikard Johnels email : rikjoh@norweb.se Web : http://www.rikjoh.com Mob : +46 735 05 51 01 ------------------------ Public PGP fingerprint ---------------------------- < 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 >
On Fri August 6 2004 7:39 am, Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 16:47, John N. Alegre wrote:
Bluefish, Quanta? I think Quanta is part of the default SuSE install.
Quanya is a KDE application. use CD. RichBluefish is on the S
All comments welcome. john ------------------------------------ John N. Alegre o Andante Systems o eCommerce Consulting o Custom Web Development <*{{{{}>< ------------------------------------
-- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB
Tel: +44 161 834 7961 Fax: +44 161 839 5797
-- C. Richard Matson
On Fri August 6 2004 11:57 am, C. Richard Matson wrote:
On Fri August 6 2004 7:39 am, Fergus Wilde wrote:
On Friday 06 August 2004 16:47, John N. Alegre wrote:
Bluefish, Quanta? I think Quanta is part of the default SuSE install.
Quanta is a KDE application. Bluefish is on the SuSe CD's. Rich
All comments welcome. john ------------------------------------ John N. Alegre o Andante Systems o eCommerce Consulting o Custom Web Development <*{{{{}>< ------------------------------------
-- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB
Tel: +44 161 834 7961 Fax: +44 161 839 5797
-- C. Richard Matson
-- C. Richard Matson
John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
All comments welcome. john ------------------------------------ John N. Alegre o Andante Systems o eCommerce Consulting o Custom Web Development <*{{{{}>< ------------------------------------
NVu is getting usable and is loaded with features. www.nvu.com -- Jim Sabatke Hire Me!! - See my resume at http://my.execpc.com/~jsabatke Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup. NOTE: Please do not email me any attachments with Microsoft extensions. They are deleted on my ISP's server before I ever see them, and no bounce message is sent.
On Friday 06 August 2004 7:42 am, Jim Sabatke wrote:
NVu is getting usable and is loaded with features.
www.nvu.com
-- Jim Sabatke
This looks interesting. I haven't seen it before. I'm downloading now, thanks for the tip. Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux.
What about arachnophilia? http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/ -- Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e West Central Florida 100% Linux. Suse 9.1 Drake, Hallicrafters, Heathkit, TenTec, Yaesu Radio Life: http://www.gospelcom.net/twr/ Linux-Incompatible hardware is defective! USA Pres. Election 2004: http://www.rnc.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux.
What about arachnophilia?
http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/
-- Thanks! & 73, doc kd4e West Central Florida 100% Linux. Suse 9.1 Drake, Hallicrafters, Heathkit, TenTec, Yaesu Radio Life: http://www.gospelcom.net/twr/ Linux-Incompatible hardware is defective! USA Pres. Election 2004: http://www.rnc.org/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I use OOo for HTML --it is WYSIWYG. FWIW... -- ...CH "The more they over-think the plumbing,
On Friday 06 August 2004 10:06, doc wrote: the easier it is to stop up the drain." Scotty
On Friday 06 August 2004 8:47 am, John N. Alegre wrote:
I am looking for suggestions on a HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux. The requirements are something similar to Home Page or Adobe Go Live. The other requirement is that it be fairly simple to use such as Home Page. Although we have good Linux sys admins here. the person using the software is not UNIX savy. They should be able to launch the program and use it, save files, got back and forth between the HTML and the projected HTML page without having to deal much with the complexities of a hard to use application.
All comments welcome. john
I've tried all the Linux-based programs and haven't been very happy with them. I'm running crossover office and have Dreamweaver installed on it. It works perfectly....a little choppy feeling compared to a native program, but I was still able to build a whole business website using it. You could try Home Page or Go Live on Crossover Office...I'm not sure how well it works. COO is about $50 and you can run other windows stuff on it as well. If you haven't tried Dreamweaver, give it a shot with the downloadable demo. I like it a lot better than other programs. The only downside to it is the ease of database connections with MS databases. If you don't need that, then you're in good shape. Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
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