[SuSE Linux] Questions regarding a new system/multi-boot/sound card/etc.
Hello all, First of all a little background info. I learned of Linux about a year ago and have been reading up on it ever since. I have yet to install it on a system, for I learned of it after I just bought & configged my Win95 computer. Now, after only a year, I am looking for another computer (you will soon learn I am one of the biggest addicts for new technology there is). Basically, I only use SCSI devices on my computers. It may just be psychological or something, but I find SCSI to be much more reliable and faster. So, this is my idea for my next system: Processor: Intel Pentium II 400/450 Motherboard: ASUS P2B-LS BX Motherboard with on-board Adaptec AHA-2940U2W (Ultra2 Wide SCSI) & Intel 10/100 Ethernet Card Memory: 128 MB PC100 SDRAM Graphics Card: ?!? (AGP?!?) Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 9.1 GB Ultra Wide or Ultra2 Wide SCSI hard drive CD-ROM: Plextor UltraPlex 14X/32X Internal SCSI CD-R/W: Yamaha 2X CD-RW/4X CD-R/6X Read External SCSI Modem: External Motorola 56K ModemSURFR Sound Card: Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold Now that I've told you all of this let me try to explain why I've told you all of this. Basically I was wondering the group's recommendations about this equipment and it's support under S.u.S.E. Linux (preferably using stable kernels), such as the AHA-2940U2W controller card, and the Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold. (I've read with much interest many of the problems with sound in version 5.3 & I've also heard complaints about the Creative Labs cards...basically my reason for the gold is I really like the gold-plated stereo outputs...if someone knows of a high-quality card with this feature other than from Creative Labs, esp. one better supported under Linux, I'm open to ideas). With the graphics card, originally I was considering Diamond Multimedia's FireGL 1000 Pro, then I saw they had a FireGL 4000, and I also saw the new Viper V550 with 16MB RAM, plus the new Velocity V4400 with 16MB RAM also, & the ATI Rage Magnum with _32MB_ RAM! I know most of them come in both AGP and PCI (except maybe the FireGL's...not sure). Personally I would favor the AGP, b/c I wouldn't be wasting a slot on my motherboard, but I'm not sure of support under Linux...any recommendations. Next on my list, I was wondering how possible it would be to multi-boot between these three operating systems: S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3, Windows NT Server 4.0, & _Novell Intranetware 4.11_. I've seen the How-To's for booting between Linux & NT, but I haven't noticed anything mentioning Novell. I'm not even really sure if it's possible to multi-boot with Novell, but I'm just assuming it must be possible somehow. If anyone has any ideas or has a similar situation on their computer, I'd love to know how it can be accomplished. I'd also like to hear some suggestions on how to partition the drive, including the different directories for Linux, and possibly any ideas for NT (separate the O/S & data/apps?!?...put O/S on FAT 16 & data on NTFS or vice versa?!?) As you can probably see from the operating systems I'm most likely going to be using this new computer as a server & play-toy (server...play-toy...what's the difference!?! ;)) I'm planning to connect a Pentium 200 MMX & my mom's Pentium 90, both running Win95 to it, and possibly to all three different server O/S' (at different times of course). I'd most likely use a small 4-node hub & 100 Mb/s Categoryy 5 Ethernet cable. So, if anyone has any good suggestions, I'd really love to hear them. Sorry for such a long rant (which I realize is a little disorganized, too), but I'm really happy to finally, hopefully joining the ranks of the Linux community. And about the questions on other O/S' I know it may be a little off-topic, but I figured Linux users had to be the smartest computer users out there & that they most likely had the most diversified experience & in-depth knowledge of all types of computers & O/S'. Well, thanks for your time & I'd just like say hi to everybody again. -- Bye for now, Dave C. pepermil@pop.cybernex.net <A HREF="http://www2.cybernex.net/~pepermil/"><A HREF="http://www2.cybernex.net/~pepermil/</A">http://www2.cybernex.net/~pepermil/</A</A>> P.S. If anyone has any suggestions on where to buy these parts for my computer off the Internet at a good/great price from a reliable company with good warranty could you please send me some URL's? TIA. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
David Coulthart <pepermil@cybernex.net> wrote:
Hello all,
First of all a little background info. I learned of Linux about a year ago and have been reading up on it ever since. I have yet to install it on a system, for I learned of it after I just bought & configged my Win95 computer. Now, after only a year, I am looking for another computer (you will soon learn I am one of the biggest addicts for new technology there is).
Basically, I only use SCSI devices on my computers. It may just be psychological or something, but I find SCSI to be much more reliable and faster. So, this is my idea for my next system:
Processor: Intel Pentium II 400/450 Motherboard: ASUS P2B-LS BX Motherboard with on-board Adaptec AHA-2940U2W (Ultra2 Wide SCSI) & Intel 10/100 Ethernet Card Memory: 128 MB PC100 SDRAM Graphics Card: ?!? (AGP?!?) Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 9.1 GB Ultra Wide or Ultra2 Wide SCSI hard drive CD-ROM: Plextor UltraPlex 14X/32X Internal SCSI CD-R/W: Yamaha 2X CD-RW/4X CD-R/6X Read External SCSI Modem: External Motorola 56K ModemSURFR Sound Card: Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold
All good choices IMHO! SCSI is the only way to go also, as I run it for the same reasons.
Now that I've told you all of this let me try to explain why I've told you all of this. Basically I was wondering the group's recommendations about this equipment and it's support under S.u.S.E. Linux (preferably using stable kernels), such as the AHA-2940U2W controller card, and the Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold. (I've read with much interest many of the problems with sound in version 5.3 & I've also heard complaints about the Creative Labs cards...basically my reason for the gold is I really like the gold-plated stereo outputs...if someone knows of a high-quality card with this feature other than from Creative Labs, esp. one better supported under Linux, I'm open to ideas). With the graphics card, originally I was considering Diamond Multimedia's FireGL 1000 Pro, then I saw they had a FireGL 4000, and I also saw the new Viper V550 with 16MB RAM, plus the new Velocity V4400 with 16MB RAM also, & the ATI Rage Magnum with _32MB_ RAM! I know most of them come in both AGP and PCI (except maybe the FireGL's...not sure). Personally I would favor the AGP, b/c I wouldn't be wasting a slot on my motherboard, but I'm not sure of support under Linux...any recommendations.
Well I am listening to Steely Dan under XMCD-2.3 (see <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/tkan/xmcd/"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/tkan/xmcd/</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/tkan/xmcd/</A</A>>), right now under SuSE 5.3 with OSS/Commercial (see <A HREF="http://www.4front-tech.com"><A HREF="http://www.4front-tech.com</A">http://www.4front-tech.com</A</A>>). I run a AWE64 GOLD w/4 megs and it is the nicest card for sound I've found. I run Matrox cards personally and have run Millenium's with 8megs and 16megs. I have 3 flavours, the I, the II and the G200 AGP. PCI is much better supported so far, but AGP is coming into bloom slowly. If you are serious about what is on the screen, go to <A HREF="http://www.xig.com"><A HREF="http://www.xig.com</A">http://www.xig.com</A</A>> for the real horsepower in display managers. (This is probably the best advice in this e-mail) All the cards you mention are nice and will work great, especially with AcceleratedX from Xi Graphics.
Next on my list, I was wondering how possible it would be to multi-boot between these three operating systems: S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3, Windows NT Server 4.0, & _Novell Intranetware 4.11_. I've seen the How-To's for booting between Linux & NT, but I haven't noticed anything mentioning Novell. I'm not even really sure if it's possible to multi-boot with Novell, but I'm just assuming it must be possible somehow. If anyone has any ideas or has a similar situation on their computer, I'd love to know how it can be accomplished. I'd also like to hear some suggestions on how to partition the drive, including the different directories for Linux, and possibly any ideas for NT (separate the O/S & data/apps?!?...put O/S on FAT 16 & data on NTFS or vice versa?!?)
I would buy System Commander as you seem to have enough resouces to spend the $ for a commercial app for this, and yes it's possible.
As you can probably see from the operating systems I'm most likely going to be using this new computer as a server & play-toy (server...play-toy...what's the difference!?! ;)) I'm planning to connect a Pentium 200 MMX & my mom's Pentium 90, both running Win95 to it, and possibly to all three different server O/S' (at different times of course). I'd most likely use a small 4-node hub & 100 Mb/s Categoryy 5 Ethernet cable. So, if anyone has any good suggestions, I'd really love to hear them.
Sorry for such a long rant (which I realize is a little disorganized, too), but I'm really happy to finally, hopefully joining the ranks of the Linux community. And about the questions on other O/S' I know it may be a little off-topic, but I figured Linux users had to be the smartest computer users out there & that they most likely had the most diversified experience & in-depth knowledge of all types of computers & O/S'. Well, thanks for your time & I'd just like say hi to everybody again. -- Bye for now,
Dave C. pepermil@pop.cybernex.net <A HREF="http://www2.cybernex.net/~pepermil/"><A HREF="http://www2.cybernex.net/~pepermil/</A">http://www2.cybernex.net/~pepermil/</A</A>>
I recommend VA Research at <A HREF="http://www.varesearch.com/"><A HREF="http://www.varesearch.com/</A">http://www.varesearch.com/</A</A>> for Linux system. Best Regards -Dee W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem@wdm.com Faith is acting on your passions and beliefs. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
At 05:58 PM 09/06/98 -0400, David Coulthart wrote:
[SNIP] Basically, I only use SCSI devices on my computers. It may just be psychological or something, but I find SCSI to be much more reliable and faster. So, this is my idea for my next system:
Processor: Intel Pentium II 400/450 Motherboard: ASUS P2B-LS BX Motherboard with on-board Adaptec AHA-2940U2W (Ultra2 Wide SCSI) & Intel 10/100 Ethernet Card Memory: 128 MB PC100 SDRAM Graphics Card: ?!? (AGP?!?) Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 9.1 GB Ultra Wide or Ultra2 Wide SCSI hard drive CD-ROM: Plextor UltraPlex 14X/32X Internal SCSI CD-R/W: Yamaha 2X CD-RW/4X CD-R/6X Read External SCSI Modem: External Motorola 56K ModemSURFR Sound Card: Sound Blaster AWE64 Gold
My understanding is that driver support for the 2940U2W is still under development. The drivers for 2940UW may work. I suggest, post your query in comp.os.linux.hardware news group as well
Next on my list, I was wondering how possible it would be to multi-boot between these three operating systems: S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3, Windows NT Server 4.0, & _Novell Intranetware 4.11_. I've seen the How-To's for booting between Linux & NT, but I haven't noticed anything mentioning Novell. I'm not even really sure if it's possible to multi-boot with Novell, but I'm just assuming it must be possible somehow. If anyone has any ideas or has a similar situation on their computer, I'd love to know how it can be accomplished. I'd also like to hear some suggestions on how to partition the drive, including the different directories for Linux, and possibly any ideas for NT (separate the O/S & data/apps?!?...put O/S on FAT 16 & data on NTFS or vice versa?!?)
Don't know if Novell has similar restriction as that of Win9x i.e. must be in the first primary partition of the HD. If not, then you can install it say in /dev/sda4 and include a section in lilo.conf other=/dev/sda4 for Novell in addition to a section for NT (say in /dev/sda1) which would be declared as other=/dev/sda1. I think this logic would work. As for partition advice, there has been some previous discussion on the topic; suggest browsing the archives on SuSE's Web site. HTH -- Arun Khan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Arun K. Khan wrote:
Next on my list, I was wondering how possible it would be to multi-boot between these three operating systems: S.u.S.E. Linux 5.3, Windows NT Server 4.0, & _Novell Intranetware 4.11_. I've seen the How-To's for booting between Linux & NT, but I haven't noticed anything mentioning Novell. Don't know if Novell has similar restriction as that of Win9x i.e. must be
in the first primary partition of the HD.
Well Arun,
Pls. see my response below. At 07:33 AM 09/08/98 -0400, Ted Maciag wrote: .... <snip> ......
Well Arun,
From your questions you haven't had muchd experience doing OS's. Yes you can boot 30 or 40 or more OS from a single PC. To do this use Systems Commander, you _must_ RTM. There are specific instructions to follow.
Novell is a DOS based program. You can boot it from a floppy if you have to. So end of story. Get SC and get going. Later I'm short for time. BTW, might want to take a try at Borders for some info.
--
Ted, You quoted the wrong poster's name in your response. My post was in response to someone else's query. I assumed that he/she would be using LILO in the MBR and was trying to give a LILO solution that would work for Linux, NT, and Novell. I have installed and used Linux (Slackware, Redhat, Caldera, SuSE), Win[39]x/NT, Solaris x86. I have not used/installed Novell though and thus am not sure about it's installation requirements. Assuming Novell is installed in some partition say /dev/hda2, NT in say /dev/hda1 and Linux say in /dev/hda6 (/dev/hda3 is extended and /dev/hda5 is Linux Swap), I think one can have a multi boot system using LILO in the MBR. I don't think it is necessary to buy System Commander to multi boot the OSs in discussion here. BTW, I do have a SC version that I bought back in '96. I think it is a nice product when you are dealing with many OSs (one of them being Win 9x which gives you a FAT16/32 partition for SC installation automatically) installed on many HDs **but** for handful of OSs in a couple of HDs, IMHO LILO in MBR is sufficient. Another alternative, is to use NT boot manager to boot the various OSs in this system by editing the boot.ini file. HTH -- Arun Khan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Another alternative is the OS/2 Boot Mamager, which I'm using: OS/2 3.0, SuSE 5.3, Debian 2.0, Red Hat 5.1. LILO in the respective logical partition( for /). Best regards, Bob Russell kc8chq@juno.com Penguin inside! Now THAT'S Cool! On Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:52:23 -0500 "Arun K. Khan" <arunkhan@xnet.com> writes:
Pls. see my response below.
At 07:33 AM 09/08/98 -0400, Ted Maciag wrote:
.... <snip> ......
Well Arun,
From your questions you haven't had muchd experience doing OS's. Yes you can boot 30 or 40 or more OS from a single PC. To do this use Systems Commander, you _must_ RTM. There are specific instructions to follow.
Novell is a DOS based program. You can boot it from a floppy if you have to. So end of story. Get SC and get going. Later I'm short for time. BTW, might want to take a try at Borders for some info.
--
Ted,
You quoted the wrong poster's name in your response. My post was in response to someone else's query. I assumed that he/she would be using LILO in the MBR and was trying to give a LILO solution that would work for Linux, NT, and Novell. I have installed and used Linux (Slackware, Redhat, Caldera, SuSE), Win[39]x/NT, Solaris x86. I have not used/installed Novell though and thus am not sure about it's installation requirements.
Assuming Novell is installed in some partition say /dev/hda2, NT in say /dev/hda1 and Linux say in /dev/hda6 (/dev/hda3 is extended and /dev/hda5 is Linux Swap), I think one can have a multi boot system using LILO in the MBR. I don't think it is necessary to buy System Commander to multi boot the OSs in discussion here. BTW, I do have a SC version that I bought back in '96. I think it is a nice product when you are dealing with many OSs (one of them being Win 9x which gives you a FAT16/32 partition for SC installation automatically) installed on many HDs **but** for handful of OSs in a couple of HDs, IMHO LILO in MBR is sufficient. Another alternative, is to use NT boot manager to boot the various OSs in this system by editing the boot.ini file.
HTH -- Arun Khan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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An even better boot manager is System Commander. Boots anything, anywhere, anytime. Even does HD partitioning. -ted Robert C. Russell wrote:
Another alternative is the OS/2 Boot Mamager, which I'm using: OS/2 3.0, SuSE 5.3, Debian 2.0, Red Hat 5.1.
LILO in the respective logical partition( for /).
Best regards, Bob Russell kc8chq@juno.com
Penguin inside! Now THAT'S Cool!
On Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:52:23 -0500 "Arun K. Khan" <arunkhan@xnet.com> writes:
Pls. see my response below.
At 07:33 AM 09/08/98 -0400, Ted Maciag wrote:
.... <snip> ......
Well Arun,
From your questions you haven't had muchd experience doing OS's. Yes you can boot 30 or 40 or more OS from a single PC. To do this use Systems Commander, you _must_ RTM. There are specific instructions to follow.
Novell is a DOS based program. You can boot it from a floppy if you have to. So end of story. Get SC and get going. Later I'm short for time. BTW, might want to take a try at Borders for some info.
--
Ted,
You quoted the wrong poster's name in your response. My post was in response to someone else's query. I assumed that he/she would be using LILO in the MBR and was trying to give a LILO solution that would work for Linux, NT, and Novell. I have installed and used Linux (Slackware, Redhat, Caldera, SuSE), Win[39]x/NT, Solaris x86. I have not used/installed Novell though and thus am not sure about it's installation requirements.
Assuming Novell is installed in some partition say /dev/hda2, NT in say /dev/hda1 and Linux say in /dev/hda6 (/dev/hda3 is extended and /dev/hda5 is Linux Swap), I think one can have a multi boot system using LILO in the MBR. I don't think it is necessary to buy System Commander to multi boot the OSs in discussion here. BTW, I do have a SC version that I bought back in '96. I think it is a nice product when you are dealing with many OSs (one of them being Win 9x which gives you a FAT16/32 partition for SC installation automatically) installed on many HDs **but** for handful of OSs in a couple of HDs, IMHO LILO in MBR is sufficient. Another alternative, is to use NT boot manager to boot the various OSs in this system by editing the boot.ini file.
HTH -- Arun Khan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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I boot S.u.S.E., FreeBSD and win95 with lilo. lilo works great, and it's something you already have. Ted Maciag wrote:
An even better boot manager is System Commander. Boots anything, anywhere, anytime. Even does HD partitioning.
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I boot S.u.S.E., FreeBSD and win95 with lilo. lilo works great, and it's something you already have.
Ted Maciag wrote:
An even better boot manager is System Commander. Boots anything, anywhere, anytime. Even does HD partitioning.
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